07-04-2021 09:02 AM
I received this message and eBay deleted all 50 of my listings (I think eBay did for other sellers too).
////Your listing was removed: VeRO Brand Name Misuse Policy
Hello pdr-lights*com,
We had to remove your listing because it didn’t follow our VeRO Brand Name Misuse Policy. You may not use brands names in your listings if the product isn’t manufactured by or compatible with that brand//////
Question and answer!?
The word "PDR" - this is an abbreviation of the words "Paintless Dent Removal", which has been used in the USA since 1931 year.
Paintless dent repair (PDR), also known as paintless dent removal, describes a method of removing minor dents from the body of a motor vehicle.
Currently, only Chinese company under name "PDR" and its satellites appear for a request using the keyword PDR. All products that are ALWAYS used in combination with abbreviation of the word "PDR" have disappeared from the pages of the eBay. Naturally, disappeared all sellers. It's incredible!
I believe that this is an agreement with a Chinese company. This is monopoly and discrimination.
I'd like to know? Who else was affected by this problem.
We must collectively demand to return the word back and restore all deleted listings.
07-04-2021 09:17 AM
< The word "PDR" - this is an abbreviation of the words "Paintless Dent Removal" >
Surprising that anyone could trademark that initialism for auto body work, since for many years PDR has been used to stand for Physicians' Desk Reference. This is a huge reference book that lists most drugs, their application, side effects, etc.
07-04-2021 09:27 AM
And, in it's off hours, a PDR makes a great door stop and step ladder for those who may be somewhat 'height challenged'.
07-04-2021 09:34 AM
Yeah as above the drug reference was my first thought..
Hummmm I wonder what happens if the seller's name is Penelope Dianne Rogers?
Trademarking & VERO for INITIALS???
That seems pretty UNAmerican IMHO..
07-04-2021 10:00 AM
You have no idea how many companies have this PDR abbreviation in their name! I don't understand - eBay started want down?
07-04-2021 10:07 AM
The Physician's Desk Reference is available online at http://www.pdr.net/, so I suspect that is the VeRO company that is involved in this case.
@pdr-lights, it probably won't do you any good to try to fight this. Seller's almost never prevail, and in this case, the abbreviation is already taken. You don't get to revise that. You're too late.
07-04-2021 10:12 AM - edited 07-04-2021 10:13 AM
< Trademarking & VERO for INITIALS??? ... That seems pretty UNAmerican IMHO. >
In my opinion too, Pika, but by research I've found it to be common. For one example, this site https://trademarks.justia.com/715/42/nbc-71542154.html tells is that "NBC" is a trademark registered by that broadcasting company we all know and love. Or hate.
This, despite the fact that I have a box of saltine crackers in my kitchen right now that were baked by the National Biscuit Company! That company was formed in 1898, decades before families were huddling around their Philco listening to election results and the World Series.
07-04-2021 10:13 AM
@gosimus wrote:
< Trademarking & VERO for INITIALS??? ... That seems pretty UNAmerican IMHO. >
In my opinion too, Pika, but by research I've found it to be common. For one example, this site https://trademarks.justia.com/715/42/nbc-71542154.html tells is that "NBC" is a trademark registered by that broadcasting company we all know and love. Or hate.
This, despite the fact that I have a box of saltine crackers in my kitchen right now that were baked by the National Biscuit Company! That company was formed in 1898, decades before families were huddling around their Philco listening to the World Series.
Wow..
Just wow...
You know the little guy is always gonna lose when it comes to this..
I honestly had no idea..
07-04-2021 10:17 AM
WWF (wrestling) was sued and had to change their name, after 40+ years using that moniker, because it was a copyrighted trademark of the British (World Wildlife Federation)... or something like that.
07-04-2021 10:23 AM
The fact is that it affected not only me.
Today is a holiday and many still do not know anything!
Thousands and thousands of products use a combination of this word with other words. And "PDR" is the main thing main keyword. What if they come to Google?
07-04-2021 10:24 AM
right
07-04-2021 10:30 AM
@pdr-lights wrote:The fact is that it affected not only me.
Today is a holiday and many still do not know anything!
Thousands and thousands of products use a combination of this word with other words. And "PDR" is the main thing main keyword. What if they come to Google?
Then your competitors will have to deal with this also. At least you're not alone.
"You don't tug on superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off that old lone ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim"
Jim Croce - You Don't Mess Around With Jim
07-04-2021 10:40 AM
Not much you can do about it so maybe have a PBR and relax?
07-04-2021 10:44 AM - edited 07-04-2021 10:45 AM
@pikabo-icu wrote:
@gosimus wrote:
< Trademarking & VERO for INITIALS??? ... That seems pretty UNAmerican IMHO. >
In my opinion too, Pika, but by research I've found it to be common. For one example, this site https://trademarks.justia.com/715/42/nbc-71542154.html tells is that "NBC" is a trademark registered by that broadcasting company we all know and love. Or hate.
This, despite the fact that I have a box of saltine crackers in my kitchen right now that were baked by the National Biscuit Company! That company was formed in 1898, decades before families were huddling around their Philco listening to the World Series.
Wow..
Just wow...
You know the little guy is always gonna lose when it comes to this..
I honestly had no idea..
It's not necessarily fair. It's just whoever got the trademark first.
In the 1960s and 70s, my mother used to shop for yarn at a knitting store call Woolmart, which had been in business for decades. When a Walmart store was opened nearby, they sued the knitting store, and they went out of business. I don't think the knitting store could afford the cost to defend themselves against the lawsuit.
07-04-2021 10:47 AM
@lacemaker3 wrote:
@pikabo-icu wrote:
@gosimus wrote:
< Trademarking & VERO for INITIALS??? ... That seems pretty UNAmerican IMHO. >
In my opinion too, Pika, but by research I've found it to be common. For one example, this site https://trademarks.justia.com/715/42/nbc-71542154.html tells is that "NBC" is a trademark registered by that broadcasting company we all know and love. Or hate.
This, despite the fact that I have a box of saltine crackers in my kitchen right now that were baked by the National Biscuit Company! That company was formed in 1898, decades before families were huddling around their Philco listening to the World Series.
Wow..
Just wow...
You know the little guy is always gonna lose when it comes to this..
I honestly had no idea..
It's not necessarily fair. It's just whoever got the trademark first.
In the 1960s and 70s, my mother used to shop for yarn at a knitting store call Woolmart, which had been in business for decades. When a Walmart store was opened nearby, they sued the knitting store, and they went out of business. I don't think the knitting store could afford the cost to defend themselves against the lawsuit.
Oh that is diabolical..
One wonders how ANY small business is still alive..
Sad.