Are the SNAD rules different on Local Pickup only?

[herecometheplayas]

Since I would actually be meeting with the buyer and they would be able to inspect the items before paying, can they then open a SNAD? Doesn't seem right, but it IS eBay. I have some old bubble gum cards from the 70s and don't want to list them, ship them out and get a rock back in return

[eunster1313]

(Are the SNAD rules different on Local Pickup only?)

As far as eBay is concerned the SNAD rules are the same

whether you Ship your item or do a local Local Pickup.

Buying with local pickup

https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/postage-delivery/changing-delivery-address-method/local-pickup?id=4... 

Offering local pickup

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/shipping-items/setting-shipping-options/local-pickup?id=4181&st=12... 

Just keep in mind that if the buyer pays you in cash as far as eBay is

concerned the buyer is still covered by the eBay money back grantee

if they open a SNAD case later.

[cynthealee2]

In THEORY MBG doesn't apply on local pickup items, as long as they pay in cash at the time of pick-up (so no SNAD)

While PayPal doesn't cover local pickup, if the buyer pays for the item using paypal, it brings them back into eBay's MBG.

But as you stated this is eBay.

[coffeebean832]

The buyer can still file a SNAD. You can't discourage PayPal payments, but you can encourage cash payments. If the buyer pays cash you won't have to worry about returns and rocks.

[cynthealee2]

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy...

Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:

• An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing
• A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines
• The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
  • PayPal
  • PayPal Credit
  • Credit card or debit card
  • eBay gift cards, eBay bucks and eBay vouchers
• The item was paid for in a single payment
• Items collected in person are covered, provided all other requirements are met

Buyer pays in CASH then they are NOT covered...

Again though it IS eBay, and they are known to side with the buyer no matter what.

[sg51]

Since I would actually be meeting with the buyer and they would be able to inspect the items before paying, can they then open a SNAD? Doesn't seem right

Some items have defects which cannot be detected by a visual inspection.

Such as, the thing turns out to have been stolen, and the police come and take it away from buyer.  

[borntodeal]

On all local pick up items, I do not offer returns.

And I have a simple receipt they sign stating the item is in good condition, they accept it as-is and that all sales are final.

I also take a picture of their ID if the item is more than $100.

[adkhighker]

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@borntodeal wrote:

On all local pick up items, I do not offer returns.

And I have a simple receipt they sign stating the item is in good condition, they accept it as-is and that all sales are final.

I also take a picture of their ID if the item is more than $100.

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That's good if you can make it stick, but I doubt that "receipt" would hold much water if the buyer decides they want to return it after they get it home and discover something (or make something up about it) that they didn't notice when they picked it up.  I mean, this is eBay we're talking, not a B&M store or Craigs List. Besides, isn't it the buyer  who's supposed to be the one asking for a receipt?

[coffeebean832]

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@borntodeal wrote:

I also take a picture of their ID if the item is more than $100.

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Mind if I ask why @borntodeal?

[sg51]

On all local pick up items, I do not offer returns.

And I have a simple receipt they sign stating the item is in good condition, they accept it as-is and that all sales are final.

None of that trumps ebay's MBG.

[borntodeal]

ID would allow me to track down someone if they pick up a high-value item.

[borntodeal]

Hey herecometheplayas,

I'm going to tap out on this one but you have my advice.

I love this quote from President Clinton--not about eBay but about worrying about bad things happening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NekXTdIcOa4&feature=youtu.be&t=38

I have never [emphasis added] had a Money Back Guarantee claim (or any claim) for an item that was a local pickup sale and I have been on eBay for 21 years.

[sg51]

I have never [emphasis added] had a Money Back Guarantee claim (or any claim) for an item that was a local pickup sale and I have been on eBay for 21 years.

I've been on ebay as long as you, and I haven't had such a claim either.

But I never requested buyer to sign anything or show me credentials.

For what it's worth, ebay MBG didn't exist in any form until somewhere 12-15 years ago, and the LP coverage was considerably more recent than that, no doubt prompted by bad buyer experiences.

[slippinjimmy]

Same as the previous two posts, I've done quite a few local pickups in the past 21 years and never had any kind of issue certainly not a SNAD.

Why would anyone want to return an item they bought and picked up in person unless the item was not testable at the door step and the seller was less than honest about the condition.

[atikovi]

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@borntodeal wrote:

I also take a picture of their ID if the item is more than $100.

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I'm not letting a total stranger take a picture of my ID.