04-27-2023 11:38 PM
It appears that shortly it will be possible to leave 5 pictures when you leave feedback.
Buyers, of course, can already leave negative feedback for a seller. The pictures can simply reinforce that negativity,
BUT we all know that sellers can not leave negative feedback for a buyer so they try positive feedback with a negative comment. Usually does not work out well for the seller. Judging by the posts on these boards there are certainly buyers who various sellers believe deserve negative feedback. Scams, fraudulent returns, repeated bidders who never pay, etc. You know the ones.
The cynic in me says that there are those who will try to use the pictures to make a negative point. An upside down flag for example, a universal sign of distress. Picture of an empty box suggesting that is what the return turned into. A frowning emoji. Well you get the idea.
Going to be fun to watch. I wonder how many sellers will put their foot in it. 'Cause I've got to figure eBay will be monitoring it.
04-29-2023 11:10 AM
@movieman630 wrote:I personally think leaving negatives "exposed" for 12 months in our ratings is a little unfair. They should roll off quarterly. It provides NOTHING good to the platform leaving them up for 12 months. Or at least set up a program that they roll off monthly as long as you don't get another negative within that month. If you do, they all stay up for another month. This would weed out negatives from miserable people allowing good sellers to not be negatively impacted and keep them relevant for bad sellers who do get them every month, sometimes every week.
It is worse on Amazon. They are there forever.
Not all negatives are undeserved by the seller. Sometimes a seller works very hard to get that rating.
04-29-2023 11:13 AM - edited 04-29-2023 11:13 AM
@toomuchstuffagain35 wrote:Apropos of this - ebay keeps hounding me to "finish setting up your store".
Why?
So you can wipe out all the hard work I put into it (again) the next time you decide to "upgrade the store experience"?
Thanks but no thanks.
I'm sorry that happened to you, but what does that have to do with pics on FB?
04-29-2023 11:31 AM
Why complicate feedback? I wondering if ebay sees it as an opportunity to get more sales. Example, I am so happy with my X that I post a photo of X and then one of you guys sees it and want to buy the same item. This might work on a newbie buyer but not one that has been here since 1998.
04-29-2023 11:32 AM
Read the first line of the post I was responding to.
Pretty much any "innovation/enhancement/improvement" ebay has come up with over the last couple of years is as insane as what they're doing with FB.
04-29-2023 11:36 AM
@ms.rodriguez* wrote:Why complicate feedback? I wondering if ebay sees it as an opportunity to get more sales. Example, I am so happy with my X that I post a photo of X and then one of you guys sees it and want to buy the same item. This might work on a newbie buyer but not one that has been here since 1998.
If that were to be the response to this change I would celebrate it. I just don't see that happening. But we sure can be hopeful.
04-29-2023 11:40 AM
@toomuchstuffagain35 wrote:Read the first line of the post I was responding to.
Pretty much any "innovation/enhancement/improvement" ebay has come up with over the last couple of years is as insane as what they're doing with FB.
Posters like to say that and ignore changes that benefited them because complaining on communities like this is the normality of online chatting in most forums.
EIS is a new program with lots of seller benefits. Shortening the window of time we can file on a buyer because they didn't pay and now we can simply file a cancellation and be done with it instead of waiting through a claims process. The addition of 12 more free photos on a listing. Etc.
Not everything is bad and we don't know that this one will be either. At least not yet. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of this change but I'm willing to keep an open mind about it and see how it plays out.
04-29-2023 12:02 PM
Tagging on": And admitting that I haven't read the 80 posts regarding this subject.
One way or another ebay buyers will find a way to abuse the adding of photos to feedback.
One thing popped into my mind. Maybe sellers will be able to add photos of their merchandise
to these feedback as a way to advertise their products.
Just sayin.
04-29-2023 12:22 PM
Learning how to abuse the system is a two way street. Both buyers and sellers do it, it is not one sided.
It is hard to say how this will work out until they actually post the policy that will govern pics to FB and how the buying community responds to it.
04-29-2023 12:48 PM - edited 04-29-2023 12:50 PM
Kind of pointless and unneeded change when eBay intentionally cripples the feedback system:
If sellers leave buyer feedback it MUST BE POSITIVE (even if positive is a dishonest response)
If buyers leave seller feedback it can be Positive, Neutral or Negative
It can be Honest or Dishonest, as long as it is the buyer's opinion. I can't wait to see pictures of all the empty boxes and cheap items sellers sent instead of the item they were advertising (in the buyer's opinion).
I wouldn't mind if feedback was truly honest for both buyers and sellers AND eBay improved their buyer/seller protections against fraud.
04-29-2023 04:13 PM
That is because some see feedback as a level playing field and it isn't nor has it ever been. If you look around at similar sites to Ebay, they have done away with FB left for buyers a long time ago. I wish Ebay would go this direction too. Buyer FB serves no purpose other than it may make the buyer feel good. I personally don't think that is enough of a reason to keep it around. Clearly other sites felt and feel the same way.
04-29-2023 04:28 PM
@toomuchstuffagain35 wrote:
@wastingtime101 wrote:Put me in the camp of: Why?
Photos are for product reviews. Not needed for FB, especially when one has a lengthy 500 characters to make their point.
I'm pretty sure AMZ for example only allows photos in product reviews not general FB
Exactly, which is why I called it a "different animal" in a much earlier post. A photo with a product review (Amazon) is not at all the same as a photo with feedback for an individual seller (eBay proposal).
On Etsy, a photo can appear with a seller's listings and shop reviews IF the product is tagged as eligible for product review and IF the photo accompanies a five-star review. Again, very different.
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04-29-2023 06:01 PM
I remember reading in the forums months ago someone posting eBay "inside info" that eBay was doing away with feedback, so I was surprised to hear eBay is adding pictures to feedback. I've been on eBay for over 20 years. I just roll with the eBay punches. Not much else that can be done.
04-29-2023 06:07 PM
@mybigsale wrote:I remember reading in the forums months ago someone posting eBay "inside info" that eBay was doing away with feedback, so I was surprised to hear eBay is adding pictures to feedback. I've been on eBay for over 20 years. I just roll with the eBay punches. Not much else that can be done.
Wow, I never read that. I've been fighting for a long time for Ebay to get rid of leaving FB for buyers. Most other sites like Ebay stopped doing it a long time ago.
Personally I don't think Ebay can get rid of FB for sellers. It is buyer's way to help judge if they want to do business with that seller.
We already have some sellers that don't really function above board, but get away with it. If there wasn't seller FB it would get a whole lot worse IMHO.
04-29-2023 07:22 PM
This is most likely eBay's ridiculous attempt to ''even the playing field'' for buyers and sellers, of course it is never going to be ANYWHERE near to even with the MBG.
When a buyer opens a return now, in some (I guess rolling out) instances they are required to upload photo proof of claim, (I have seen buyers on here spitting about that) so is photo proof in FB the way to appease buyer's??????
This place is a circus
04-29-2023 07:54 PM
Why would Ebay end the MBG? Buyers need protections too?