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An Adventure with a Stamp Collection I sourced recently...

So the back story on this collection... is that it showed up at the shop in Feb 2023, and a local stamp dealer came and appraised it for us to make an offer to the owner. It was appraised at $5K (I wasn't party to the negotiation, just knew what the appraisal value was). It fit in five large boxes, two of which had lots of "loose" stamps (tiny little albums, glassine envelopes and ziplock bags of loose stamps... I weeded out all stamps on paper when I got this collection and gave them back to the shop, won't touch that with a 10 foot pole).

 

So around February when it was obtained by the shop, they sent it out to an auction house. The auction house did nothing with it for six months (and I could see why when I got my hands on it, it's a full time job for three months for one person to deal with all those stamps, I've been working on it part time for two months, and am only halfway through the collection). Basically we said "give us our stamps back" when it became evident they were going to sit on them, and my brainiac comment to our shop owner was "if you let them keep it, it's just going to lose value while it's not being sold". That seemed to create a sense of urgency to get the collection back for us to deal with ourselves.

 

Well when I got it, I went through everything, and I gave my appraisal value of it at $3500 (what we would pay the customer, I'm a little unsure how much we can sell it for since there were too many unknown items in this collection that needed careful research, I'm going through it in detail now).

 

Well there was stuff at the bottom of a shoebox that had a very high value and was at one point, six months ago, particularly scarce. But now there's 4 or 5 of these Dollar value jubilee stamps on eBay in every denomination they made. I have a full set, but to avoid the issue of signature on delivery I broke the set apart and have been listing them slowly to reduce the chances of a $750 sale which will be problematic for me to ship from Canada. (I will deal with it if it comes up, but I'm trying to avoid that by limiting the availability online, and they are selling, just not fast).

 

This is my fear though with this collection... it's dropped 30% in value from the time the shop got it until the time I got it, which was about 6 or 7 months later. And while I'm processing it, more of these rare stamps are appearing on eBay and the prices are being pushed down. I have stuff going up but in a few weeks or so, more are appearing that undercut my prices and I have to lower them.

 

I guess you could say I'm concerned on how much profit will be left by the time I'm unable to sell any of these stamps at all... I have set aside all coins, banknotes, tokens and anything that's low value or purchased by common collectors in favour of trying to get the rare valuable stamps dealt with first.

 

Basically the pool of collectors is decreasing as we move forward in time, and our shop is seeing all sorts of rare things turning up right, left, and centre as baby boomers downsize and estate sales come in. This stamp collection is no exception. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen, and since I got it, a few more collections have turned up (that I had to pass on selling for them), and I'm not even excited to see a bunch of Canadian Bluenose stamps because after the great big collection, nothing seems to be very rare anymore as it comes into the shop.

 

Well if you deal in stamps and collectibles and have feedback on the declining pool of customers and prices dropping, and rare stuff turning up everywhere... I definitely want to hear from you.

 

If you don't deal in collectibles, I hope you enjoyed my story of the day.

 

C.

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I'm always amazed by the little square bundles of used mass circulation stamps someone tied togethr with string...

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I bought a large collection of UK GB stamps.  Most of it is presentation packs.  All stamps are in perfect condition.  The collector made sure to keep his collection protected & clean.  ALL of it is MNH.  I've sold part of it.  A SMALL part.  Really would like to find the best way to start selling it online.  Not many buyers in North America; judging by the few sales I notice on eBay.  A lot of sales of packs but in the UK.  I bought the collection 2 1/2 years ago.  Most of it is newer.  After 2000.  Some 70s, 80s, 90s.  Booklets, mini sheets, blocks & singles.  90% has to be the packs but most packs also come with doubles of the stamps & mini sheets.  I'm in the same boat as you - figure out how to get it sold.  I noticed good sold prices on some packs so I listed a few of mine.  Sat collecting dust & almost no views.  It took several months to sell a Pink Floyd pack + extras.  Best of luck to you.   🙂

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@deltilogical wrote:

I'm always amazed by the little square bundles of used mass circulation stamps someone tied togethr with string...


Why do people do that? In this huge collection I got, there were a bunch of 1970s stamps in little bundles tied together with a string. Those went back to the store, I didn't see it as something with any value. I give back anything that I think is junk I can't sell.

 

C.

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@sakic92710 wrote:

I bought a large collection of UK GB stamps.  Most of it is presentation packs.  All stamps are in perfect condition.  The collector made sure to keep his collection protected & clean.  ALL of it is MNH.  I've sold part of it.  A SMALL part.  Really would like to find the best way to start selling it online.  Not many buyers in North America; judging by the few sales I notice on eBay.  A lot of sales of packs but in the UK.  I bought the collection 2 1/2 years ago.  Most of it is newer.  After 2000.  Some 70s, 80s, 90s.  Booklets, mini sheets, blocks & singles.  90% has to be the packs but most packs also come with doubles of the stamps & mini sheets.  I'm in the same boat as you - figure out how to get it sold.  I noticed good sold prices on some packs so I listed a few of mine.  Sat collecting dust & almost no views.  It took several months to sell a Pink Floyd pack + extras.  Best of luck to you.   🙂


Thanks for the well wishes. I can try to help with your presentation pack problem, I ended up with 400 of those (all listed). I ship in a regular letter with a piece of cardboard (not the corrugated stuff). None are selling to the UK, but in the UK they sometimes buy "just the stamps" (which are on cards). I have a few regulars in the US buying the presentation packs in batches of 3-10 at a time, so I've probably sold around 50 or so of these so far.

 

If you want to replicate my model, you can list as singles. I've been listing for around FV of the stamps value and that seems to get them sold, not quickly, but some have sold. I got my presentation packs probably about six months ago, but it took quite a bit of time to photograph all and get them all up.

 

I have some Aussie presentation packs (same idea as UK, but wimpier packaging), and the shop owner suggested that the stamps might sell, but not in cards because of higher shipping rates. Unfortunately with the Aussie ones, I've sold zero so far, and have started listing them a few weeks ago.

 

Tonight I looked at my active listings sorting high priced first and I see lots of them are getting views, many more views than I expected. Not sure if they're not sold because the viewers aren't buyers, or if the prices are too high... I know when I take it down, sell similar, and drop the price, it will be brand new and might garner some new attention at a lower price. But what price it should list at, not really sure... Some of the latest listings (like a penny red collection) have no precedent here, so I don't know what it should sell for.

 

C.

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While philately will always be around to some extent or another, it's certainly true that the market is becoming refilled by all those old collections that have been packed away for decades by collectors that have passed. Not only are there more specimens back out there, but newer generations with less interest have less money for their interests...

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@annadryl wrote:

While philately will always be around to some extent or another, it's certainly true that the market is becoming refilled by all those old collections that have been packed away for decades by collectors that have passed. Not only are there more specimens back out there, but newer generations with less interest have less money for their interests...


What I'm seeing turning up, is lots of QV Jubilee stamps (usually I see up to 8 cents on a regular basis, but now the dollar ones are turning up often, I think I've seen 7 or 8 of them this year, but none before this year). There's lots of rare GB stamps in the big collection I got. He had 27 penny blacks, and a full alphabet of Penny Reds for both 1841 and 1864. I have no idea what to price them, but I put them up one full page of a range of letters.

 

I work with lots of people younger than me, and they don't even buy actual books or movies... everything is streamed or downloaded in some fashion. I'm not that old, but sitting with an actual book or putting on a real CD or DVD is something I'm not giving up... I guess it's interesting to observe how the way we enjoy our interests changes over time.

 

Also, my co-workers who are all under 40, if they actually own a house, it's paid for with two salaries and taking up most of their income. It's at a point of being in a really bad place if there was a loss of employment in that household. I bought my first house 20 years ago, and bought my second house with the equity of the first house (and downsized to a place that was less maintenance). Nowadays younger people are saving money if they can with cheap living arrangements (like staying with family) and needing two incomes to buy a house, which was never necessary when I was growing up.

 

C.

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This is my fear though with this collection... it's dropped 30% in value from the time the shop got it until the time I got it, which was about 6 or 7 months later. And while I'm processing it, more of these rare stamps are appearing on eBay and the prices are being pushed down. I have stuff going up but in a few weeks or so, more are appearing that undercut my prices and I have to lower them.

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If more of them are appearing, then they must not be rare stamps.

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The point is that they are no longer rare as they are rapidly reentering the market after being off-market (in someone's collection) for decades.

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Then, they are not rare,

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An event or situation that is rare does not occur very often.
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@annadryl

rapidly reentering the market

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How is that rare?

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I had a similar thing but it was with sports cards.  1954-55 Detroit Red Wings Reprint sets.  For some reason, the Howe was a little bigger than the rest of the cards.  There were many sets.  I did very well selling them BUT, the previous owner wrapped each set with elastic bands!  Unbelievable!  Did more damage to the Howe than the other cards.  Those sets had real value if some were not partially wrecked on the sides.

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Thank you very much.  I appreciate some ideas on what to do.  When I did a search for sold presentation packs, they did not show very many sales for North America.  From what I recall, they did not include your sold listings so, possibly, presentation packs might do better than I expect.  If I have SEVERAL posted, they might draw more attention.  I was going to cancel my store & remove my listings by Dec. but just might cancel & give the stamps a shot here before deciding to move on.  Cheers!  

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No one said they are rare. The point is that there used to be fewer on the market so prices were higher. Now they are re-emerging into the  open so prices are dropping. Also better specimens are back out there so the prices for the lesser grades drop as well. Also less boomers with deep pockets, so prices drop. And less collectors with less funds for collectibles... etc.

 

It's not about rarity, it's quite the opposite.

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Let me begin with this disclaimer "I do not sell stamps", though I have been known to sell some Cinderellas.

 

For 25 years I have seen large collections sell for a pittance at auction, whether they are offered as a single lot or multiple lots.

 

Although some lots of rare stamps have brought what seems to be some decent money the total proceeds from the collection has been pathetic.

 

Usually, these auctions have been consigned by estates.

 

I understand why the auction house you consigned to put them in the low priority area.

 

A knowledgeable stamp dealer would have sought to cherry pick these lots, or may actually have done that before you received it,

 

My attitude about large collections is never to pay based on the total value of the collection, even when discounting from it. I buy based on payback analysis, how much can I count on receiving quickly and offer that amount or less for the lot.

 

Unless you are competing with a stamp dealer with an established customer base, it is the way to go. And if you are competing with a dealer with an established base, let him have it.

 

The same issues occur to many collections where there are not enough young collectors.

 

Use this opportunity to improve you collection liquidation skills, you paid for the lesson.

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