All fixed-price listing durations except for GTC going away?

[revenue-collector]

Apparently it was surprise-launched on eBay Australia. Beta test before they push it out worldwide?

A lot of sellers are going to be very unhappy.

https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/abblog/blog.pl?/pl/2019/2/1550695647.html

[castlemagicmemories]

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@yuzuha wrote:

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@gamersbaystore wrote:

For those who state they're tired of seeing the same listings over and over again, that's something ebay should fix, but has nothing to do with the listing duration of an item.

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It does, though.  Fixed Price items that are repeatedly listed for 7 or 10 days pop up in a "Newly Listed" search about once a week, and sellers use that fact to get an artificial boost in search results.  The way to fix it is to get rid of those listing durations and have all Fixed Price listings be for 30 days.  That way, everyone's items will get the search boost from coming up as "Newly Listed" once a month and it won't annoy buyers who search a category on a regular basis.

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But that limits visibility as the listing is most likely to be viewed at the start or beginning and then just before ending, as many search newly listed or ending soonest.  Listing for thirty days eliminates that boost that the listing might get if listed more frequently, as in every 7 days.  So the fact that you won't see it as much by going to thirty day listings would actually hurt visibility and lessen the chance of a sale.  As far as seeing the same listings over and over again,  if you use Best Match, that can sit on one item for days and days without moving.  It really doesn't accurately reflect the variety and ever changing listings that Ebay offers.

[castlemagicmemories]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

I'm assuming given they're forcing this on Australia's sellers that its more than likely U.S sellers are going to get hit with this nonsense soon as well.

In 2008,  Ebay tried to force Australia to Paypal only.  Australians refused and many Australian sellers just walked away.  The Australian government finally told ebay that they could not do that several years later.  

I bought a lot from several Australian sellers at the time and heard this right from them.  

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I miss those Australian sellers.  Had some very dear friends there that came about from buying from them~ great, wonderful experiences.  I still think of them fondly.   Aussies are wonderful people!  

[dtexley3]

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@stickboy1974 wrote:

Here is one thing people might be forgetting.

The GTC option is good for 30 days.

I hope I have the following dates right as I did it on the fly.

I do not have a store, so  I only get 50 items a month. Whichever ones I post on the first day of July will get "renewed" on the July 31.  So those items will be taken off my listing allotment or if I have none left, I end up paying 35 cents per listing.

Then the items I had posted on the second day of July will then end on the first day of August will then get "renewed" on August 31st.

Yes, I do realize that not all months have 31 days, but in a way that could make it even harder to keep track of which items will end up costing you listings or money as items you had listed on January 30th will renew on March first and then again on March 31st.

So now instead of listing 50 items, I will end up listing less items so as to save some for the "renewals"

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I got burned by this early on before I upgraded to my current store size.  The quick and easy solution was "never list anything on the 1st of the month".

[stickboy1974]

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@yuzuha wrote:

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@gamersbaystore wrote:

For those who state they're tired of seeing the same listings over and over again, that's something ebay should fix, but has nothing to do with the listing duration of an item.

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It does, though.  Fixed Price items that are repeatedly listed for 7 or 10 days pop up in a "Newly Listed" search about once a week, and sellers use that fact to get an artificial boost in search results.  The way to fix it is to get rid of those listing durations and have all Fixed Price listings be for 30 days.  That way, everyone's items will get the search boost from coming up as "Newly Listed" once a month and it won't annoy buyers who search a category on a regular basis.

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Maybe eBay could/should change the wording from "Newly Listed" to "Relisted" (In RED BOLD lettering). Or how about a limit to how many times the same (or similar) item could be relisted.

[castlemagicmemories]

I think that relisted in red letters would be a negative connotation that is not really necessary, as the listing may be new to some, even if not to everyone.

And ebay does put new listing on those listings that are new; also some unique items may take awhile to find their buyer.  That does not mean they should not be listed.  

[stickboy1974]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

I think that relisted in red letters would be a negative connotation that is not really necessary, as the listing may be new to some, even if not to everyone.

True I did not think of that so I will put my response in BLUE  LOL

And ebay does put new listing on those listings that are new; also some unique items may take awhile to find their buyer.  That does not mean they should not be listed.  

And I also did not mean for them to not be relisted. More work for all of us. I was just trying to think of something since it seems to me that people are not happy seeing the "relisted" items being relisted as new.

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[yuzuha]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

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But that limits visibility as the listing is most likely to be viewed at the start or beginning and then just before ending, as many search newly listed or ending soonest.  Listing for thirty days eliminates that boost that the listing might get if listed more frequently, as in every 7 days.  So the fact that you won't see it as much by going to thirty day listings would actually hurt visibility and lessen the chance of a sale.  As far as seeing the same listings over and over again,  if you use Best Match, that can sit on one item for days and days without moving.  It really doesn't accurately reflect the variety and ever changing listings that Ebay offers.

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It wouldn't limit visibility because everyone would be getting that Newly Listed/Ending Soonest search boost once a month.  You wouldn't have some sellers getting that artificial boost by relisting something over and over again on a weekly basis-- THAT limits visibility.

And there's a reason I don't use Best Match to search-- I want to see the new listings that I haven't seen yet, not the ones I've already looked at and decided I didn't want.  "Newly Listed" SHOULD provide that, except it gets ruined by sellers spamming their listings over and over again via relists.  I don't mind seeing older, relisted stuff once a month.  I DO mind seeing it once a week.

[castlemagicmemories]

It wouldn't limit visibility because everyone would be getting that Newly Listed/Ending Soonest search boost once a month.  You wouldn't have some sellers getting that artificial boost by relisting something over and over again on a weekly basis-- THAT limits visibility.

And there's a reason I don't use Best Match to search-- I want to see the new listings that I haven't seen yet, not the ones I've already looked at and decided I didn't want.  "Newly Listed" SHOULD provide that, except it gets ruined by sellers spamming their listings over and over again via relists.  I don't mind seeing older, relisted stuff once a month.  I DO mind seeing it once a week.

Yes, but that boost, as you say, would only be once a month, when it could have been 4 times a month.  More visibility could correspond with more sales.  Also, the 30 day listings may be more likely to be stashed in a watch list as there is no sense of urgency about them~not like with a 7 day listing that may end being bought or simply never relisted.  Listing for 7 days as opposed to 30 may limit the seller's visibility who lists 30 days but not the one who lists for 7 days.  I know you consider that spam, but many don't have a problem with that.  

I search like you do~newly listed~as Best Match is almost stagnant, and you might miss something if you just search ending soonest.  Newly listed gives you just that, newly listed, and I think it is useful.  I don't mind seeing a relist after 7 days as that can just be skipped over.

[go-bad-chicken]

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@slippinjimmy wrote:

It should be noted that sellers using "personal accounts" vs "business accounts" DO NOT pay relisting fees on GTC listings (in Australia).

Not 100% sure but it looks like a Business Account is needed to have a Store.

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While your comment seems to have been missed or overlooked by the rest of the commenters within this thread, I would agree with you that this is probably the reason behind eBay Australia's change concerning GTC listings.

"It should be noted that sellers using "personal accounts" vs "business accounts" DO NOT pay relisting fees on GTC listings (in Australia)."