Ads With Hundreds of key Words Make Searching Impossible
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‎11-12-2024 05:35 PM
Searching on ebay has become next to impossible. When searching for specific car parts in my case, sellers have loaded their ads with hundreds of key words. I have called ebay about this, and while they agree with me, they don’t do anything about it. As a seller, I know my sales are down, because unless I pay for a promoted listing, potential buyers need to search thru lots of irrelevant ads before they ever find mine. I have been a seller for 8 years, and this is the worst year I’ve had. I find better results on marketplace, yeah therer are a lot of time wasters, but at least they can find what I’m selling.
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‎11-12-2024 08:29 PM
What are you searching for and how are you searching?
Most likely there are ways to change a search to limit the results to the items of interest and avoid items that are not.
Some unscrupulous automotive parts sellers have been known to include lists of unrelated keywords in their listings' item-specifics hoping to get their listings to appear in as many searches as possible.
If your search problem is related to this, there are still things you (or your buyers) can do to avoid those keyword-spamming listings when searching.
For automotive listings, just pick a make, model or year that has absolutely nothing to do with your search from that list, and exclude that keyword using a minus sign in front of that keyword you want to exclude. Since keyword spammers are lazy, they quite often reuse the same list and copy from other spammers. Any listing with that keyword in the item specifics will be excluded from your results, including any listing by that item-specific spamming seller.
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‎11-13-2024 08:13 AM - edited ‎11-13-2024 08:16 AM
@jeepstuff4 wrote:Searching on ebay has become next to impossible. When searching for specific car parts in my case, sellers have loaded their ads with hundreds of key words. I have called ebay about this, and while they agree with me, they don’t do anything about it. As a seller, I know my sales are down, because unless I pay for a promoted listing, potential buyers need to search thru lots of irrelevant ads before they ever find mine. I have been a seller for 8 years, and this is the worst year I’ve had. I find better results on marketplace, yeah therer are a lot of time wasters, but at least they can find what I’m selling.
BIG ISSUE!
While @eburtonlab can teach YOU how to search and find anything you want. He can't teach your potential buyers how to do the same.
As a seller, you must research search in the same manner that you think your buyers search.
Which is to type in a few words, and run down half of the 1st page. You might even sort or filter once (but no more).
You need to be "researching" in the same manner to which you think buyers are "searching".
As for the thousands of key words stuffed into Item Specifics Part Number slots? Seems eBay cares to do nothing about it.
It's destroying search, especially in eBay motors.
On a side note: I tried this myself a few weeks ago and it limited me to 30 words in a Part Number box.
SO? Maybe they changed something trying to prevent sellers from key word spamming "so much".
HOWEVER, when you find one of those listings, and click "sell on like this". You get it ALL in your new listing.
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‎11-13-2024 08:28 AM
Most likely there are ways to change a search to limit the results to the items of interest and avoid items that are not.
But that does not really solve the problem.
Just because a clever hack to get around the keyword spamming exists does not mean that buyers will be (a) recognize a hack is needed, (b) find it, and (c) learn how to use it.
Instead, they will likely give up and go somewhere else.
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‎11-13-2024 08:37 AM
"As a seller, you must research search in the same manner that you think your buyers search."
I think my buyers search by stumbling across my stuff by accident.
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‎11-13-2024 08:40 AM
Once you get a search built, save it. That way you don't have to keep making the same build each time you search. If you don't want to get emails every time something is added (sometimes those messages for some searches can really start to pile up), be sure to unclick the receive email button.
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‎11-13-2024 09:08 AM
@hartungcards wrote:"As a seller, you must research search in the same manner that you think your buyers search."
I think my buyers search by stumbling across my stuff by accident.
It's sure does seem like that more and more and more.
Get tired of searching through un-related stuff and just buy the 1st one they actually see.
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‎11-13-2024 09:10 AM
@redmodelt wrote:Once you get a search built, save it. That way you don't have to keep making the same build each time you search. If you don't want to get emails every time something is added (sometimes those messages for some searches can really start to pile up), be sure to unclick the receive email button.
What? Search built? Save it? What? Huh? Please Explain (hopefully time to learn something new)
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‎11-13-2024 09:26 AM
Save it?
eBay allows users to save up to 200 searches per account. Those Saved Searches can provide notifications when new results are listed, and can be easily rerun by going to the Saved Searches page. A very complicated search can be created using a desktop browser, saved, and then the Saved Search can be accessed using the eBay app, for instance.
Beyond that, users can create a specific search and then bookmark the search results page to easily get new results by using the bookmark (or "favorite" if you use Edge), and potentially keep track of an unlimited number of searches without having to recreate each search from scratch.
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‎11-13-2024 09:45 AM
@eburtonlab wrote:Save it?
eBay allows users to save up to 200 searches per account. Those Saved Searches can provide notifications when new results are listed, and can be easily rerun by going to the Saved Searches page. A very complicated search can be created using a desktop browser, saved, and then the Saved Search can be accessed using the eBay app, for instance.
Beyond that, users can create a specific search and then bookmark the search results page to easily get new results by using the bookmark (or "favorite" if you use Edge), and potentially keep track of an unlimited number of searches without having to recreate each search from scratch.
Okay. Did not know that.
Not much help here though. If 500 parts on a vehicle. Probably around 1500 different "research" searches.
Then there's the next vehicle...ugh
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‎11-13-2024 09:46 AM
Just because a clever hack to get around the keyword spamming exists does not mean that buyers will be (a) recognize a hack is needed, (b) find it, and (c) learn how to use it.
Understood.
But the point is that there is more than one way to search for and find any item listed on eBay. Different buyers search in different ways and try different things -- including some ways that you as a seller may not have considered.
Just because the search that you would first think of using turns up poor results does not mean that all your buyers are necessarily encountering the same thing.
eBay seems to do very little to discourage keyword spamming or to respond to reports of sellers that use keyword spamming. Perhaps eBay is doing a great deal behind the scenes that I am unaware of, but there are enough examples of keyword spamming that are easy to find to make that seem most unlikely.
So what can be done about keyword spamming?
Buyers can try searching in different ways as discussed previously, and can choose not to do business with sellers that engage in that antisocial practice.
Sellers can take steps to make their listings as easy to find as possible by legitimate means, and can report competing sellers that violate eBay's "search and browse manipulation" policy.
Community members can share search tips and tricks that make keyword spamming less effective and easier to filter or avoid, and can encourage eBay to take additional actions to enforce the current rules.
Anything else?
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‎11-13-2024 10:08 AM
Not much help here though. If 500 parts on a vehicle. Probably around 1500 different "research" searches.
Saved Searches are good for things you are constantly searching for again and again, or else for items that may rarely turn up but that you really want to find quickly when they do eventually turn up.
There are also third-party automated search tools that allow you to set up a search and run it many times per day to get an immediate message if an item matching your search is listed, so you can get a jump on your competition that may be searching manually or using eBay's Saved Search and only getting a message once per day.
Saved searches can still help with one-off searches, though. If you are searching for a particular part and spend a bit of time creating a very targeted search of a certain category with keyword exclusions and excluded sellers, saving that search can allow you to use that search as a starting point for a new search for a similar part for a different vehicle later on, just by changing a couple of keywords.
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‎12-19-2024 10:34 AM
Searching for parts I'm looking for is pointless due to the keyword spamming, I was trying to wait it out, but it looks like nothing will be done about it. My sales are down because of it I'm sure, but I don't really care about that, I would just like to find parts I need for my cars. I've tried complaining, reporting sellers, I even listed some things with a ridiculous amount of keywords to see if I would get hassled for it, not a word. Its like there isn't anybody running eBay, just an empty void.
And before you tell me to do some exotic search to try to circumvent the spamming, I've tried it all, its a waste of time and doesn't work. The only thing that can be done it to limit the specifics to one or 2 words per line, but eBay wont do it. A small amount of spamming is almost necessary to find rare items, but that all can be done in the title, in fact if they had a search title only option that might fix the problem, but I'm not aware of an option like that. I hope they get it together soon, because another year of this and eBay may be in trouble.
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‎12-19-2024 11:03 AM - edited ‎12-19-2024 11:08 AM
@satelite65 wrote:Searching for parts I'm looking for is pointless due to the keyword spamming, I was trying to wait it out, but it looks like nothing will be done about it. My sales are down because of it I'm sure, but I don't really care about that, I would just like to find parts I need for my cars. I've tried complaining, reporting sellers, I even listed some things with a ridiculous amount of keywords to see if I would get hassled for it, not a word. Its like there isn't anybody running eBay, just an empty void.
And before you tell me to do some exotic search to try to circumvent the spamming, I've tried it all, its a waste of time and doesn't work. The only thing that can be done it to limit the specifics to one or 2 words per line, but eBay wont do it. A small amount of spamming is almost necessary to find rare items, but that all can be done in the title, in fact if they had a search title only option that might fix the problem, but I'm not aware of an option like that. I hope they get it together soon, because another year of this and eBay may be in trouble.
We are limited to 30 words in Item Specifics, in "each" part number box.
Tried it just to see what would happen.
HOW those people are getting THOUSANDS of words in there is beyond me.
It's beyond a problem at this point.
If search would pull results from the TITLE only (accurately), AND the sorts and filters work (correctly).
I'd be back to selling again.
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‎12-19-2024 11:21 AM
And before you tell me to do some exotic search to try to circumvent the spamming, I've tried it all, its a waste of time and doesn't work.
What are you actually searching for?
Perhaps you are right, and there are some things that are just impossible to find.
But maybe you have not really "tried it all". Maybe there are some non-exotic searches that can find what you want without being inundated with keyword-spammed listings.
Maybe someone can suggest a search that works differently than the searches you have tried, and something that seems exotic now might not seem so exotic once you have tried it.
What have you got to lose?
