@gurlcat wrote:What do you think @zamo-zuan ? Appears maybe they don't like us seeing things on the same page, to make comparisons and see what doesn't add up.
You know I've been very vocal about the fact that it has not been adding up for a long time (literally years at this point). They definitely don't like us seeing the truth. Which we already know from the fact that they had literally kept the same information and CHANGED THE DEFINITION in order to support their ever-changing narrative of why things didn't add up properly.
I suppose we're just supposed to ignore the fact that our sales hadn't significantly changed all year (if anything a very slight drop which mostly occurred about 2 months ago). But get a load of this:
Amazing how ALLEGEDLY our views plummeted but somehow our promoted sales have blew up higher than ever.... lol.
Also amazing how our listing views per day went from THOUSANDS... to uh, 12- 20'ish? Our impressions from hundreds of thousands, to 2k-3k?
Come on eBay, which is it? Was everything we were being told before a lie, or is this the lie now?
(Or realistically, they're all smoke and mirrors and eBay has never been transparent with us, which is the most likely scenario if you consider what their "errors" have revealed to us in the past.)
Just had to go have a look at mine.
All I can ask is "how" ? How is it possible?
I guess AI chooses the scale, ............ but how can you have 0.2 views?
I suppose the answer is ........... AI just keeps it to scale.
How can my views be so low as to prompt a chart at that scale?
I take that back. Another question. How do I have a sales conversion rate of 275%? Nearly 3 times as many sales as views. Saved on someone's watch list? I suppose that I should be impressed because it is up 94%
ETA:
Some possible insight. For whatever reason it appears the above, for whatever reason, as best as I can tell is only being based on "5" of my listings. That's all that are displayed if I scroll down even when choosing 7 days, or 90 days rather than the default 30 days.
@buyselljack2016 wrote:Just had to go have a look at mine.
All I can ask is "how" ? How is it possible?
I guess AI chooses the scale, ............ but how can you have 0.2 views?
I suppose the answer is ........... AI just keeps it to scale.
How can my views be so low as to prompt a chart at that scale?
I take that back. Another question. How do I have a sales conversion rate of 275%? Nearly 3 times as many sales as views. Saved on someone's watch list? I suppose that I should be impressed because it is up 94%
@buyselljack2016 yeah, the numbers have been completely borked for some sellers, first starting with the introduction of the new functionality for the app and then extending to the new desktop Seller Hub version as well - eBay staff have acknowledged the Product Teams are aware of the technical issue and are working on it:
@valueaddedresource wrote:
@buyselljack2016 wrote:Just had to go have a look at mine.
All I can ask is "how" ? How is it possible?
I guess AI chooses the scale, ............ but how can you have 0.2 views?
I suppose the answer is ........... AI just keeps it to scale.
How can my views be so low as to prompt a chart at that scale?
I take that back. Another question. How do I have a sales conversion rate of 275%? Nearly 3 times as many sales as views. Saved on someone's watch list? I suppose that I should be impressed because it is up 94%
@buyselljack2016 yeah, the numbers have been completely borked for some sellers, first starting with the introduction of the new functionality for the app and then extending to the new desktop Seller Hub version as well - eBay staff have acknowledged the Product Teams are aware of the technical issue and are working on it:
"Technical issue" when everything still happens to add up to the correct amount of sales in the end...
In other words, the extrapolation is broken and is making it obvious that the data is authored and not authentic. Because these numbers are totally realistic:
@zamo-zuan wrote:"Technical issue" when everything still happens to add up to the correct amount of sales in the end...
In other words, the extrapolation is broken and is making it obvious that the data is authored and not authentic. Because these numbers are totally realistic:
@zamo-zuan I think there are a couple different things going on here.
Some of the stuff you've pointed it is for sure an issue, but some sellers are also seeing things right now where it really is actually a technical issue and doesn't still add up to the right sales at the end - it's just completely broken because the new report is clearly not bringing all the data that should be there in
Like this - the seller who sent this to me confirmed that none of that data is actually accurate for their account.
For those who are seeing wild stuff like that, I would suggest not even attempting to really analyze anything about the new reports at the moment because it's clearly just broken and there would be no point and nothing fruitful to be gained, imo.
For those who aren't seeing huge blanks like that, I'd still suggest caution since it's clear there are at least some issues going on for some people, which throws the reliability out the window even if your results aren't so glaringly broken, again imo.
Once they "fix" it...then we can see if the other issues you've been pointing out for years are still there. 😉
@valueaddedresource wrote:
@zamo-zuan wrote:"Technical issue" when everything still happens to add up to the correct amount of sales in the end...
In other words, the extrapolation is broken and is making it obvious that the data is authored and not authentic. Because these numbers are totally realistic:
@zamo-zuan I think there are a couple different things going on here.
Some of the stuff you've pointed it is for sure an issue, but some sellers are also seeing things right now where it really is actually a technical issue and doesn't still add up to the right sales at the end - it's just completely broken because the new report is clearly not bringing all the data that should be there in
Like this - the seller who sent this to me confirmed that none of that data is actually accurate for their account.
For those who are seeing wild stuff like that, I would suggest not even attempting to really analyze anything about the new reports at the moment because it's clearly just broken and there would be no point and nothing fruitful to be gained, imo.
For those who aren't seeing huge blanks like that, I'd still suggest caution since it's clear there are at least some issues going on for some people, which throws the reliability out the window even if your results aren't so glaringly broken, again imo.
Once they "fix" it...then we can see if the other issues you've been pointing out for years are still there. 😉
Pretty much like the statistics on the Sellers Hub home page recently, then.
This is eBay, I don't doubt there's a tech issue, as with basically all their new implementations (since no testing before releasing features lol).
But considering things didn't add up before, I just don't think we should allow them to make this page "look right" and give them a pass.
At the very least, they should have to explain why their numbers don't add up nor represent what they claim they do. And if they happen to be "fixed" and adding up properly after this? We shouldn't let the fact that there was a discrepancy slide. Because of course they're going to claim they're "correct" in the end, but if they weren't correct in the past, why should we believe it this time?
Everything else on eBay has been manipulated to make it look like "more PL" is the answer. But even before any of these changes, the conversion rates of PL are astronomical compared to any other form of eCommerce, and far beyond any credible numbers. Considering the conversion rates have never matched up with the impression/view ratios (nor the promotion graphs), my point is that the burden of proof should be on them to show transparency in to any of this being real.
