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AI or not AI

IMG_4978.pngIMG_4787.pngIMG_4788.pngwas told this is NOT AI by eBay so …

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I am not seeing the gallons of packing peanuts and yards of bubble wrap required to ensure this arrived undamaged. Nor a claim by you that you packed this brittle or fragile 3 dimensional object properly.


You should skip ahead in the Grief Cycle to the ending step of Acceptance and refund. That will save you the return postage. If the buyer has not filed a return case yet, that will prevent a ding from being added to your seller metrics.


A buyer can file an irod clad return case for these reasons with or without an ai generated photo.
1: Doesn't work or defective
2: Doesn't match description or photos
3: Wrong item sent
4: Missing parts or pieces
5: Arrived damaged
6: Doesn't seem authentic

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I've found out that ebay is the best place to go to find out if something is AI or not.

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Aww, that's a very sweet piece. I bet the buyer is very disappointed.

 

Looks broken to me, not AI. Have your customer return it or just give them a full refund. Sorry. It's on you that it wasn't packaged better.

 

Good luck.

 

 

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@ten_o_nine wrote:

Well, I presented your photos to AI and here's the response,

"The breakage in the photo is not AI-generated; it appears to be physical damage to a real, tangible object.
The items pictured are hand-painted ceramic or polyresin figurines, which are designed to be physical decorative items. The appearance of the break on the green leaf, showing a white, raw inner material, is consistent with how such materials physically fracture in the real world. AI-generated breaks often lack this level of realistic material consistency."


If AI knows what indicators to look for to identify an AI-generated image ...

 

... wouldn't AI image generators now know this and already be avoiding those indicators? 

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It that plastic in the picture is your cushioning material, it is no wonder that the piece is broken, Bush league,

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

@iamalwaysright wrote:

I dunno but I tell you hwat. Them birds definitely ain’t real.


They don't have six toes, though. 

 

Its not wrong, but I find asking AI if something is AI or not to be weirdly recursive. 


Reminds me of the paradox that computers and robots aren't even self-aware enough to realize that they themselves are artificial. Speaking of which, I need to finish watching the Westworld series.

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@mariob1962 

This was totally avoidable with the right packing and a sturdy box.  

What a beautiful piece. The buyer must be crushed. 

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@adamcartwright wrote:

@mariob1962 

The buyer must be crushed. 


As is the item. 😁 Hiyooooo!

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If AI knows what indicators to look for to identify an AI-generated image ..

 

AI is not going to rat itself out.

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Well, all the big AI guys and gals all got together one day, put their heads together and asked themselves:

 

"How can we solve the problems of the world?"

 

Their combined AI whizzed and puffed, and finally came up with:

 

"Kill all humans".

 

 

AI has already learned how to protect itself!

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Wow , that looks like a very difficult item to pack safely !!

 

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Why would people assume it wasn’t packaged properly? Came to sight for genuine concern, have been selling on eBay for over 20 years, and just had a camera returned with the lens swapped out. I have never really complained, questioned, etc., just refund, however, it’s getting a little ridiculous. And judging by some of the responses I totally get it.  

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I think the assumption is probably based on the current condition of the item.  I didn't comment on your packing, but based on the numerous points of breakage, it doesn't seem unreasonable that others might question it. 

 

If you aren't packing the item in the original styrofoam molded packaging that it came in from China, it needed several layers of small bubble between the delicate parts, large bubble to enclose that, and lots of heavy craft paper to fill the void in a box.  I would have probably double boxed that one myself in addition to the other steps.

 

All that aside, you haven't given us a reason why you think your customer would have gone to the lengths they would have had to to create an AI picture (again, with all that crap in the background) to ask for a return/refund.  What do you think their goal was when they could've just told ebay the item arrived broken and been done with it?

 

This is one of those "when you hear hoofbeats..." situations

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You cant take it so personally, by the amount of damage to the piece, it looks like it wasnt double boxed or even wrapped sufficiently.



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"Hello there...I am the Central Scruuutinizer"................LOL............................

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