09-07-2021 10:38 AM
Sorry for bringing this up as it probably has been discussed at length here, but I am still confused.
What is going to happen effective 1-1-2022 - are ALL sales over $600.- counting towards an amount shown on a 1099 at the end of the year and is every seller liable to pay income tax on that? Even for stuff we have owned for years and are selling as private parties, not a business?
If so, 12-31-2021 will be my last day as a seller on ebay....
09-07-2021 12:51 PM
@collectfest wrote:
@caldreamer wrote:You are supposed report all income to IRS (whether you receive 1099 or not). Remember EBAY is now reporting all sales and remitting "sales tax" under your social security#. If you fail to report income (you could audited and pay huge penalties).
100% correct. My friend did not report income from eBay and was audited for a tune of reportedly 8K.
Mine too. This was before 1099s were sent for any amount.
09-07-2021 01:17 PM
@ima4nr wrote:This is all totally ridiculous. I have always considered this a private sale of used items I own which are not income taxable. How in the world would you be able to document original purchase price for an item that you bought 30 years ago in order to deduct this from the sales amount. Any garage sale income is liable to income tax? What country are we living in? I am glad all you guys are so keen to hand money over to the IRS while Bezos et al pay nothing.
So all the "new" items, including fuel tanks you have listed and in your solds, you think the IRS is going to consider to be 30 year old collectibles you just had lying around?
09-07-2021 01:48 PM
At this point I would be looking for a good accountant, with an excellent tax lawyer on retainer.
I have nowhere near your sales volume and $$ but a simple excel spreadsheet makes tax time a breeze for me and my accountant.
As for leaving... You are making awesome sales.
Good luck whatever you decide.
09-07-2021 02:19 PM
I paid more for that stuff than what I paid for it. And yes, it may not be 30 years old but some of these things I had "lying around" for 15 years at least. These are items that come from my hobby. The shoes are what my wife doesn't wear anymore or has never worn.
09-07-2021 02:50 PM
After looking through the stuff you are selling/sold, you better see a CPA. If the IRS gets wind of the sales you are having, they are probably going to audit you if you have been selling very long. You are not "cleaning the closet" you are selling a LOT of expensive merchandise. I would not even think you can "not report" from your solds. 1099 or not, you'd be a fool not to report your sales. This isn't mickey mouse 100 here, 100 there stuff. The IRS is going to want their cut, so you better get your ducks in a row Bub.
09-07-2021 04:21 PM
@ima4nr wrote:I paid more for that stuff than what I paid for it. And yes, it may not be 30 years old but some of these things I had "lying around" for 15 years at least. These are items that come from my hobby. The shoes are what my wife doesn't wear anymore or has never worn.
The IRS says you are supposed to report that.
Hobby expenses are not deductible; business expenses are. You might not want the IRS to think this is a hobby. You need to talk to a tax expert, not just an online random discussion board.
09-07-2021 04:32 PM
@ima4nr wrote:I paid more for that stuff than what I paid for it. And yes, it may not be 30 years old but some of these things I had "lying around" for 15 years at least. These are items that come from my hobby. The shoes are what my wife doesn't wear anymore or has never worn.
That is good news then.
If you are selling everything below your cost, then you will have to taxable income.
09-27-2021 07:20 AM
Ok I need to understand things better because all of this seems very odd.
If I sell, personnal stuff (let's say I have a ring or a laptop to sell that I don't want to keep). Should I have to pay tax on something I bought for personnal use ?
I'm fine to pay tax on the things I sell to make profit on purpose but not when it's just to sell personnal stuff that I don't need anymore.
09-27-2021 08:23 AM - edited 09-27-2021 08:27 AM
You only have to pay income tax on the "gain" when you sell things, which is what the IRS calls your profit. It doesn't matter if the items are new or used, personal items, or purchased for retail. You only owe income tax on the gain/profit.
However, especially when you are selling your own personal items, you need to be able to prove that you had a loss as opposed to a gain/profit. Otherwise, if the amount you received is reported on a 1099, the IRS will assume that all of it was profit unless you show them that it wasn't. You need to keep records so that you can prove that you had expenses that either lowered your gain/profit, or turned it into a loss.
So, if you don't want to pay income taxes when you sell personal items at a loss, you need to be able to prove that.
Keep records of your expenses. FYI, that's a major part of what "operating as a business" requires, so the best thing to do is act like a business.
If you don't have receipts for the original purchases, then you can look up what the MSRP was (manufacturer's suggested retail price). However, I suspect that if you get audited, the IRS agent might not accept that you always paid full retail, so it might be better to estimate what you actually paid. Or you can use the current market value instead That's probably lower than you originally paid, which accounts for depreciation. The current market value is whatever you sold the item for. I used that method when I was selling on eBay as a business, and I was never audited.
09-27-2021 08:27 AM
@eunster1313 wrote:
With or without a 1099 everyone has always been required to report
any income and pay taxes if owed.
Just fill out this simple form and you will be all set and not have to worry about a 1099.
this isn't a dramatized for instance... if the new bill passes thursday give the IRS authority to pretty much get monthly records of bank activity for everyone and ability to audit everyone. Every transaction of $600 or more, in or out will be taxed...it's in the fine print of the bill.
11-23-2021 03:00 PM
Can you give me some advice on how to keep track of my deductions. Is there accounting software I can use?
04-11-2024 07:08 PM
I realize this is 2024, so your comment is old, but this disincentivizes the use of the website. I had a solo business for years, and the requirements for reporting, documenting overhead costs, physical space, etc required to take appropriate deductions just to report the $600 as a loss, basically, is what this means. So now, in 2024 as I consider whether or not to start selling my excess used belongings, for which not only have I been double-taxed but a retailer has reported as a profit or loss for which he's also already either paid taxes or deducted as a loss. This is double jeopardy.
Have you reported any 1099 income from ebay sales? Did you file the sole proprietorship returns? How did you document your losses, if you claimed the sales as losses?
04-11-2024 07:40 PM
Thread is 2 and a half years old.
Please check the date before opening old thread that contain very old information
04-11-2024 07:50 PM
Hi everyone,
Due to the age of this thread, it has been closed to further replies. Please feel free to start a new thread if you wish to continue to discuss this topic.
Thank you for understanding.