mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@ddimport wrote:so a buyer from california pay 9.5% sales tax on item they purchased, let me simplyfi the math for your to understand, you seem like you dont get it because you dont sell on ebay, this is not about ebay buyer it is about ebay seller,
Buyer from california buy item from seller
Item Price = $9.99 Free Shipping
Cali Sales Tax 9.5% = $0.95
Total Price Buyer Pay = $10.94
Ebay New Fees 12.35% X $10.94=$1.35 + 0.30 = $1.65 Final Value Fees Charge To Ebay Seller
Old Ebay Fees + Paypal Fees
Item Price =$9.99
Cali Sales Tax 9.5% =$0.95
Total Price Buyer Pay =$10.94
Ebay Old Fees +Paypal fees 10% X $9.99 =$ 1 +2.9% X $9.99 = $0.29 +$ 0.30 = $0.59 = $1.59 Total Fees Paid.
Old Ebay Fees + Paypal =$1.59 Charged before
New Ebay Manage Payment Fees = $1.65 Charging Now
Seller Paying $0.06 more using new manage payment. do the math before talk please.
Yep, you are correct. Those numbers are right. Yes there will be the occasional sale that you will pay a little more in fees. But unless all your sales are only to California, I'd be willing to bet there are going to be variations along the way. Which is why just looking at a single transaction will NEVER get you to what the new fee structure means to your business overall. But if you prefer to do it this way, it is completely your right.
What you state above is exactly the fee structure I've been saying all along that you keep wanting to disagree with me on.
Speaking for myself. I sell to California, but then I'll have sales to other states too. Some that have much lower tax rates than California and some that have no sales tax at all. I've ran six months worth of numbers. For each of those six month my overall FVFs in MP have consistently saved me a little under 1% each month. Certainly not a big savings, but I'll take it. I like it much better than an increase. Which is why I keep saying that overall this change is more likely a neutral change to your overall fees.
Now I don't know why you continue to want to disagree with me as clearly you understand the break down.
@ddimport wrote:What im saying before no matter where you sell it to, you paid and i paid the same exact fees using paypal no more no less, now you pay more in cali because fees its added to sales tax, so yes sellers are paying more on fees, i sell to the entire USA and 65% from California, this subject it was all about at the end we seller are all paying more on fees, but people here including yourself are saying that is not true, when i have been asking every seller to do that math for me and no one was able to do that for me, i sell the same item over and over again every day and each buyer i paid different final value fees with the same item only different buyer, but all of you keep saying still that new manage payment we are all saving on fees, and it is not true we are saving at all, but none of you agree with me, now i proof to everyone that ebay it is making profit from sales tax and sellers end up paying more on final value fees.
I don't know why we need to continue to rehash this information. Everything I've said so far is how it works. You have a good understanding of that as well, but you still have this need to argue some point with me that doesn't need to be argued.
I have no idea why, with the type of stuff you sell that 65% of your sales is shipped to California. You have a bit of an odd situation.
What I an others have tried to explain to you, but you refuse to acknowledge, is that you are NOT going to get an accurate view of the overall impact of the fee structure in MP if you are only going to look at one transaction. It just isn't possible to get an accurate overview doing that. Not every sale is equal. By your own admission they vary and that is logical. Those variation have to be taken into consideration.
So you have the tools. You understand how it works. It is just up to you. Compare one sale and say that is the impact on you or venture out, do a bit more work and compare a months worth of sales to see what the overall impact is for you. Its up to you. Do it or don't do it. Completely your choice.
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