Regards,
mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@gabriels_yardsale I noted that there are a number of unsubstantiated comments in your post. eBay may know how many Sellers have either left or declined to sign up but the rest of are not privy to that information. Sure, it would be nice to know AND if indeed "Hundreds of thousands of sellers have quit ..." then perhaps sales will increase for those who have elected to stay.
Is eBay dying? Not that I am aware of and I am not sure how one would gauge that in a Covid-19 world right now. I am sure many businesses have suffered because of that problem.
While I was not and still am not a fan of MP I have continued to Sell ... but it will NEVER replace the streamlined process we had with PayPal.
where did the info you have come from that PP wanted out ? Is that an assumption ? I have spoke to PP twice recently and they say something different altogether !!
Don't confuse PP wanting to stay a money processor for sellers on Ebay and PP wanting the contract to end between Ebay and PP due to the separation of the two companies. The two aren't the same. In fact Ebay entered into a new agreement with PP to ensure that they would still allow Ebay buyers and sellers to use their services at least through 2023.
But the contract due to the split had other limitations on both companies that they both no longer have those limitations. PP is now free to offer their services to any company they so choose to. They didn't have that freedom before. If you'd like more detailed information, here is the contract.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1065088/000119312515257121/d93601dex101.htm
I also never had a problem with any check or money order from any of my ebay buyers when we did business that way !! Guess maybe I was lucky !
Yes you were as there was all kinds of fakes going around about the last year before Ebay went to PP processing of payments. My bank [a major one] would no longer take money orders from Canada due to all the fraud with the exception of some that were pink as I remember it. And they preferred only PO money orders. But those days are long gone now. Likely not to return. Buyers don't want that long drawn out process again either, well at least most likely would not as they want their stuff much faster now.
I have my friends that had opted in early on that tell me the problems they have had and are having (the ones that stayed) and none of them have anything good to say about it ! I will believe them over anyone on here because I have known them personally for many years and they are not by any means rookie sellers !!
OK, then why waste other's posters time asking questions if it means nothing to you anyway. That doesn't make any sense.
Not all ebay users come to these boards to express their thoughts whether likes or dislikes !
Yep, I've said that too. And even more of them do come to share feel good stories.
If that happened with the amount of ebay users out there this site would crash !
Yet another assumption.
It could not handle that kind of traffic ! So what about the silent users that hate it ? Just like I am sure there is the silent ones that like it !! But I would put my money on the ones that hate it being more in number than the ones that like MP !! Not everyone has been forced into this yet so I am sure there is more to come !!
I'm certain you would.
@mr_lincoln wrote:@gabriels_yardsale I noted that there are a number of unsubstantiated comments in your post. eBay may know how many Sellers have either left or declined to sign up but the rest of are not privy to that information. Sure, it would be nice to know AND if indeed "Hundreds of thousands of sellers have quit ..." then perhaps sales will increase for those who have elected to stay.
Is eBay dying? Not that I am aware of and I am not sure how one would gauge that in a Covid-19 world right now. I am sure many businesses have suffered because of that problem.
While I was not and still am not a fan of MP I have continued to Sell ... but it will NEVER replace the streamlined process we had with PayPal.
There aren't even that many sellers in MP yet.
I agree with you completely on all points.
@muskingum_relics wrote:well you always have all the answers so you must be an ebay exec disguised as a seller ! After all you can give more advise and answers than ebay itself !!!
Nope, I just pay attention and I read when Ebay makes an announcement, policy change or whatever. I hate learning by surprise. I'm a very proactive person.
https://www.ebayinc.com/stories/news/ebays-management-of-payments-begins-scaling-globally/
Do to being understaffed I'd suspect, there isn't a lot of participation on the threads by Ebay for the last several months. It has only gotten worse over time. So we are left on our own to help each other. If you are expecting me to apologize because I'm in a position to help others, you will be very disappointed and will be waiting endlessly.
@muskingum_relics wrote:only a lawyer would know how to properly read that contract !! Are you a lawyer ? is she a lawyer ? Fact still remains paypal is still an excepted form of payment despite a separation from ebay ! Some have the thought paypal is going away but they are not ! Point is if a seller wants to only accept payments from paypal then that should be up to the individual seller not you or mam or ebay !! When payments are made with paypal which is simplified why does ebay have to put it through a lengthy process ? Even another member yesterday made the comment that ebay could develop a classic ebay venue for smaller volume sellers that wish not to participate in MP and what would be the the harm of that ? Ebay would still make money while regaining long time sellers that simply at this time will not sign up for it. Now what skin would that be off of you or anyone including ebay ? They could do this very simply since the system is already in place !! This is not an unreasonable compromise for ebay to do this ! It could be set up for the business level and strictly MP and have the venue for the hobbyist seller being able to stay with the classic ebay venue !! This would benefit ebay and many 1000s of other sellers.
Well that isn't completely true. While certainly some language used in contracts are simply legalese and often will go right over my head, there is enough plain English to be able to gather some important points about a contract. But to find those parts of the contract, you do actually have to read it. Not every word, skip sections and find the meet of the document.
I don't know about "expected form of payment", but there are a whole lot of buyers out there that use PP which is part of why Ebay made sure it would still be available to them for the next 3 years. I'm sure it will be revisited by both sides as the end date of that contract draws closer.
This separate site would be assuming that Ebay doesn't care if all sellers were moved to MP, but that isn't the case. If Ebay were inclined to say that small sellers didn't have to move into MP, they could do that without splitting up the site. And I don't want my stuff split to another site as I think it would reduce our sales and I wouldn't like that at all, as I'm sure others wouldn't. But a separate site just would not be necessary if Ebay wanted to exempt small sellers from MP. They could do that here.
How are you defining a small seller? That would be the first step. What is the definition? The answer to that will differ quite a bit. For me, I've always seen it as a one person operation. But others will see it differently. The definition will have all kinds of answers.
@siamjane8 wrote:The GMV numbers are manipulated to appease shareholders. They include figures such as sales tax and shipping that have nothing to do with actual profit or health of the company. Everything is manipulated.
That is not a manipulation. That is how GMV is arrived at. Not just for Ebay but for other sites as well. GMV is before ANY deductions, similar to how a 1099K numbers are. No deductions are considered. It is Gross Receipts.
"Gross merchandise value (GMV) refers to the volume of goods sold via customer-to-customer or e-commerce platforms. Gross merchandise value is calculated prior to the deduction of any fees or expenses."
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gross-merchandise-value.asp
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