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Restricted my selling for refusing to join mp

Ebay has restricted my selling capabilities for refusing to join mp. I can't list new items, which is fine because I am listing them on my own site. The real problem is I cannot edit items. So for an item I have multiple listed of, I can't lower the amount I have listed. So now that I sold something locally I can't change my ebay listing to reflect that which means eventually someone will buy it and then I have to cancel their order. They are still allowing me to sell, but just not to do it properly.  In their quest to fleece the sellers they are hurting the buyers too.

 

Ebay is the worst company I have ever done business with in my life. They are dying and I am glad I have the ability to continue my business without them. MP Is the final nail in the coffin for ebay. Hundreds of thousands of sellers have quit over it already and its just going to get worse and worse as sellers like me leave. The only thing that will be left on ebay is china **bleep** and direct sales from corporations.

 

 

 

 

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I've been having "glitch problems" loading listing images (Yes, correct size, pixels, etc).  Over and over & over and over & over and over...wasting time.  Half the time they might show up in the listing eventually, and often after they do they still don't show in search returns 😞

Horrible, but they still keep my listing fees despite TERRIBLE problems.  eBay is messing up just before the biggest selling season of the year.  Getting to be an annual event.

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I agree that each and every year there is something else that comes along to get peeps in a tizzy.  I myself left in 2010 as I was disgusted with all of the changes that rocked the e bay platform from 2008 onward.  I jumped through every hoop I was asked to go through from e bay.

 

I finally was so stressed out I just wanted to walk away....and that is what I did until 2012.

 

I adjusted my attitude when I came back.  No longer cared about TRS+ or one day handling.  I did what needed to be done to make sure my customers were happy ....not e bay,

 

I also do NOT care for MP but I am not taking it as a personal affront.  Have been on MP since September 9th.  NO ISSUES AT ALL!  

 

Everyone has a personal decision to make.  Stay or go.  Once you make the decision to go then GO!  One should not spew misinformation when they have no personal experience with the procedures.  Wishing E bay would fall flat on their face does nothing but HURT the sellers that are trying to adapt.  

 

E bay is NOT going to fail because of MP.  It is a tried and true format on most other sites.  If one is so desperate that they must have their monies immediately then they should have been working on how to change THEIR own situation.     Maybe try to save some monies from previous sales to pad your account for a weeks worth of sales so you have some available working capital. You had 2 years to get it together.  This is not a surprise attack.

 

When I left for 2 years I didn't stalk the forums wishing others to fail.  Instead I worked on the issues I could change about myself and how I handled change and stress.  When I came back I was prepared to handle change a lot better.

 

Best of luck to everyone who chooses to stay or leave.

 

 

This quest stands on the edge of a blade...stray but a little and you shall fail to the ruin of us all.
"The Lady Galadriel"
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I've read their page about it, and of course it is clear as mud. How does it actually work?

 

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@grumpus_otter 

been in MP for over a year. Works great, for me. Some have issues.

 

Buyer pays.  As they have verified the payment, eBay says OK to ship. I ship within my handling time. FVF is deducted at time of sale.  I can pay for shipping labels with PP, or from processing/pending funds. My monthly invoice is now "zero". I have no store fees. No upgrade fees.

 

They (their funds processor Adyen( replaced PayPal) process the payment, and once a week (Tuesdays, I switched from daily to weekly) eBay sends my payment for any funds that have cleared.

 

In MP they do not "front" the money the way PP did. That does not work well for those living on their money from selling.   In the "real world" payments are not received instantly.

 

Example:  my CC purchases.  I have been home for 2 days. I ate some of the food from Wally on the way home (pumpkin spice donut, yum).  Wally has not been paid yet.

 

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A checking account is required for MP. Deposits go there.  You can choose where you want invoice payments to come from. Returns funds will freeze in your MP account when there is a return opened just as it did for many in PP. I opened an additional checking account at my credit union to keep funds separated.

 

 

 

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I dont get sellers that dont comprehend while ebay is a busniness without US SELLERS & OUR ITEMS ebay has NO business! They are not Amazon. They have not invested Billions in Warehouses & inventory. Sellers pay the bills here, not buyers. To me ebay is a landlord nothing more. We rent a space. There are rules. However ebay goes too far. Imagine if a landlord ordered you to provide your checking account info so they could deduct your rent. If a landlord demanded you turn over your utilities accounts to them & they would control the payments through your checking account. If they tried to tell you what furniture you can have in your apt. Well that is how ebay acts. That is why there are many fed up sellers. It should be more like a flea market, rent a space & sell. Yes there should be SOME buyer protections. Not the buyer is always right. Ebay thinks its sellers are all corporations & has forgotten its roots. There are still many small time mom & pops here selling a virtual garage sale & not "Running a company". Maybe ebay wants us gone. If so say it & ban us & just have Professional corps selling.

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why ? Because after selling on here nearly 20 years and ebay throws out this stupid policy not designed to help anyone but ebay and they restrict my selling because I refuse to sign up I feel I have the right to complain on here all I want to ! Is that a good enough answer for you ?? Besides what I am saying on here consider me speaking up for those too shy to that feel the same way !! I am glad you like it and that it is working for you but there is a ton of people that it is not working for !!

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you said this statement so correctly and it makes sense !!! We hire ebay not the other way around and this stupid MP nonsense is their way of making the seller their employee !!

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@muskingum_relics wrote:

you said this statement so correctly and it makes sense !!! We hire ebay not the other way around and this stupid MP nonsense is their way of making the seller their employee !!


We're vendors on a managed marketplace.  I've NEVER seen this as my property because it never has been.

 

It's why I don't understand why people build entire large businesses here with warehouses and employees, all dependent upon ONE point-of-sale that they don't own: eBay.


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Wherever law ends, tyranny begins" -John Locke
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I do not have a warehouse nor employees to sell on ebay ! I was a hobbyist seller selling to a limited audience and have no need for a big business type selling platform !! Ebay also needs to remember they are ebay not amazon but they have forgot where their grassroots are and what made them !! Sellers like me !!! What is good for some is not for others !!

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my buyers pay all the bills.  Nothing comes out of my pocket.

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@99centhousefund wrote:

I dont get sellers that dont comprehend while ebay is a busniness without US SELLERS & OUR ITEMS ebay has NO business! They are not Amazon. They have not invested Billions in Warehouses & inventory. Sellers pay the bills here, not buyers. To me ebay is a landlord nothing more. We rent a space. There are rules. However ebay goes too far. Imagine if a landlord ordered you to provide your checking account info so they could deduct your rent. If a landlord demanded you turn over your utilities accounts to them & they would control the payments through your checking account. If they tried to tell you what furniture you can have in your apt. Well that is how ebay acts. That is why there are many fed up sellers. It should be more like a flea market, rent a space & sell. Yes there should be SOME buyer protections. Not the buyer is always right. Ebay thinks its sellers are all corporations & has forgotten its roots. There are still many small time mom & pops here selling a virtual garage sale & not "Running a company". Maybe ebay wants us gone. If so say it & ban us & just have Professional corps selling.


You need to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges.  A landlord does not have to follow the rules and laws for being a money processor and a money processor does not have to follow the rules and laws for a landlord.  Two vastly different things.  

 

MP is not about renting space on Ebay, that is a completely separate function by Ebay.  MP is a money processor, there is a vast difference even if you aren't seeing the differences.  

 

Once you learn the differences, maybe it will make more sense to you.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@muskingum_relics wrote:

lol hard to figure why a billion dollar company like ebay would need a cheerleader !! Why not be one for the many sellers having to wait days on their funds ?? Ebay wont go hungry but times are hard for some folks now and they cannot wait for days on their money !


So what did these people do when they had jobs that only paid them once or twice a month? When payment was via checks or money orders, where you had to first wait to receive the check/money order in the mail, then deposit it and wait for it to clear/take the money order to get it cashed?

 

Paypal is the ONLY place that gives you instant money. The rest of the world doesn't work that way and yet somehow people get along just fine.

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because PP is still here yet ebay wont apply it as it could be and also with the checks or money orders at least you knew where you stood. It is pretty simple really ! Mp by the admittance of many using it is full of glitches and no guaranteed time for payouts ! Now how can you say that is good or reasonable ?? We all have our likes and dislikes and it is my option to not like MP because I think it is a bunch of unnecessary **bleep** ! Pretty cut and dry for me !!

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@muskingum_relics wrote:

because PP is still here yet ebay wont apply it as it could be and also with the checks or money orders at least you knew where you stood. It is pretty simple really ! Mp by the admittance of many using it is full of glitches and no guaranteed time for payouts ! Now how can you say that is good or reasonable ?? We all have our likes and dislikes and it is my option to not like MP because I think it is a bunch of unnecessary **bleep** ! Pretty cut and dry for me !!


That is an assumption.  Ebay's contract with PP ended in July.  PP wanted out from under the contract too because it freed them to do things they could not do before.  

 

How many buyers do you think would actually still be using paper checks or going out and purchasing money orders in the middle of a pandemic?  Buyer's have changed over the years and require their purchases much quicker than they ever have before.  Mailing payments to a seller, seller depositing, waiting for it to clear and then shipping the item is about a 2 week or more process.  While some buyers would likely still be willing to do this, most wouldn't.  Which is also a reason why auctions aren't as popular as they once were.

 

Sellers need to move along with the times too.  Paper checks and MO's are not coming back.  Too much forgery anyway.  MO's and cashier checks are easily forged.  

 

" Mp by the admittance of many using it is full of glitches and no guaranteed time for payouts ! "  This is absolutely NOT true and so overstated.  MP is NOT full of glitches.  They have had some problems with some seller's accounts which have delayed their receiving their payouts.  That is a problem, a serious and important one.  But other than that, MP works as designed for most.  It is just many of us don't like how it is designed.  That doesn't make it a glitch it makes it some improvements that many of us desperately would like MP to improve upon.

 

A like or a dislike does not = glitch.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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where did the info you have come from that PP wanted out ? Is that an assumption ? I have spoke to PP twice recently and they say something different altogether !! I also never had a problem with any check or money order from any of my ebay buyers when we did business that way !! Guess maybe I was lucky ! I have my friends that had opted in early on that tell me the problems they have had and are having (the ones that stayed) and none of them have anything good to say about it ! I will believe them over anyone on here because I have known them personally for many years and they are not by any means rookie sellers !! Not all ebay users come to these boards to express their thoughts whether likes or dislikes ! If that happened with the amount of ebay users out there this site would crash ! It could not handle that kind of traffic ! So what about the silent users that hate it ? Just like I am sure there is the silent ones that like it !! But I would put my money on the ones that hate it being more in number than the ones that like MP !! Not everyone has been forced into this yet so I am sure there is more to come !!

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@muskingum_relics wrote:

I do not have a warehouse nor employees to sell on ebay ! I was a hobbyist seller selling to a limited audience and have no need for a big business type selling platform !! Ebay also needs to remember they are ebay not amazon but they have forgot where their grassroots are and what made them !! Sellers like me !!! What is good for some is not for others !!


This isn't 20 years ago.  eCommerce has grown up.  If eBay had stuck to little players like ourselves, it would have had the legs kicked out from under it a long time ago.  Our wares only make up about 17-18% of the merchandise on eBay. 

 

My feeling on this is that eBay really should have a 'classic' sub-site and then the 'selling commodities like everybody else' site.  It would be a lot more flexible, have better directed traffic, etc., but I never said that eBay was great at business, just that I'm quite willing to move with the times and use their payment system since I need the income (it's not a hobby for me).


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Wherever law ends, tyranny begins" -John Locke
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