mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@gormleystamps wrote:Everytime Ebay makes changes they make things worse, been a member for 22 years.
That is what is called a selective memory.
@714gorilla wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@gormleystamps wrote:Everytime Ebay makes changes they make things worse, been a member for 22 years.
That is what is called a selective memory.
I've been a member for 14 years and I agree. It only gets worse for Sellers. And THAT is not "selective memory". Everyone has their own experience.
It is a selective memory when anyone says that Ebay has never made a change that helps sellers. Please don't get me wrong. I don't like every change that Ebay has made and I've certainly been pretty hard on Ebay when they do make one that completely doesn't work for me. But to say they never make a change that benefits sellers is just completely wrong and myopic.
Just some that have helped sellers.
The ability to get paid with electronic payments
The ability to print shipping a labels on Ebay
Enhancing the site to better enable Mobile Shoppers
The Shopping Cart
12 Free pics on listings [we use to have one and had to pay for the rest]
Variation listings [likely the single most important change that allowed me to save a lot on listing fees]
Markdown Manager
Volume Pricing
Improvements in online reports [still more needed, but they are improving over the years]
And more, but this is just a short list without giving it a whole lot of thought.
None of that changes that there are many sellers having serious issues with the MP program. It is a real problem for a lot of sellers and it works OK for others. Certainly a very important issue to be sure.
@714gorilla wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@714gorilla wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@gormleystamps wrote:Everytime Ebay makes changes they make things worse, been a member for 22 years.
That is what is called a selective memory.
I've been a member for 14 years and I agree. It only gets worse for Sellers. And THAT is not "selective memory". Everyone has their own experience.
It is a selective memory when anyone says that Ebay has never made a change that helps sellers. Please don't get me wrong. I don't like every change that Ebay has made and I've certainly been pretty hard on Ebay when they do make one that completely doesn't work for me. But to say they never make a change that benefits sellers is just completely wrong and myopic.
Just some that have helped sellers.
The ability to get paid with electronic payments
The ability to print shipping a labels on Ebay
Enhancing the site to better enable Mobile Shoppers
The Shopping Cart
12 Free pics on listings [we use to have one and had to pay for the rest]
Variation listings [likely the single most important change that allowed me to save a lot on listing fees]
Markdown Manager
Volume Pricing
Improvements in online reports [still more needed, but they are improving over the years]
And more, but this is just a short list without giving it a whole lot of thought.
None of that changes that there are many sellers having serious issues with the MP program. It is a real problem for a lot of sellers and it works OK for others. Certainly a very important issue to be sure.
I did not say that Ebay has 'never' made a change that helps sellers, and I'm sure most would not say that either or we wouldn't have been here for so many years.
We all have our lists we can create for back-up, but most of us are talking about the changes within the last year or two; and again, that is my opinion because it has affected me. It is not up for argument or analyzation since my experience is just that ~ my own experience.
You decided to respond to a posting of mine directed to another poster that said exactly that. Hence my response. It is as simple as that.
@ulfesharpe wrote:Actually, I've been here since 2014 and I don't remember liking a single change — i.e. that made things better for sellers. And I can assure you I remember absolutely everything. Everything since I was 3 yo. It's horrible in fact, like Funes, the Memorious.
As I stated before, that is a selective memory as there have absolutely changes made that have helped sellers whether or not you want to acknowledge them. A partial list was given in my post # 9.
But just so we are clear here. That does NOT take away from the issues that some sellers have with how MP functions. This is an extremely hard change for many sellers.
@ulfesharpe wrote:It's not that I didn't acknowledge them but you listed improvements on the website since its inception that are mostly IT updates or ways to make your listings look nicer — against productivity changes like ever increasing fees and obstacles to transactions (like excluding listing views based on your delivery address) that had direct impact on sales. Is there a better example of this like "promotions" from which date sales in certain categories dropped to half? You can argue that adding a "shopping cart" or electronic payments in an online marketplace are real life improvements but that belongs more to the infrastructure of the platform (they are technological inputs coming from the outside) than specific choices about facilitating sales or improving eBay's ecosystem. Granted, not charging for "more pictures" was nice.
LOL Any change to the site will be IT related because no matter what that change is, it will require some update to the software that runs the programs. So your distinction is without any real meaning. While they all require some level of changing the programming of the site to allow for these changes, it doesn't mean they weren't changes that benefitted sellers.
None of the things I listed only made listing present in a more pleasant way. Each thing I listed was a FUNCTIONAL change.
My fees in a months time are about the same this year as they were last year. Now my Fees on a month's period of time last year were higher than they were for the year prior [2019], but that wasn't because of fee increases, it was because of a significant sales increase. I can certainly live with that.
It is just something to throw out there that fees are on the rise, especially since we just had the first FVF increase in a long time this past April first of .20%. Just as costs change for us as sellers, costs change for Ebay too.
IDK what you mean by this statement "...obstacles to transactions (like excluding listing views based on your delivery address) that had direct impact on sales. " I haven't experienced this. Would you please describe this in more detail.
Promotional listings are an option and not a requirement. So if you are considering this tool as being part of what you call a fee increase, this is not. Sellers choose how much more they are willing to pay in FVFs if they CHOOSE to use the Promotional tool. Speaking for myself only, I never use this tool and my sales are fine.
The list I provided earlier I clearly stated was NOT all inclusive and was just a quick list. I know it is important to you to poke holes in it, but it simply isn't necessary.
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