09-21-2020 10:38 AM
how do I opt out of Ebay managed payments.
I do not want it at all
I am happy with using paypal
I do not want to have ebay manage my payments and send money into my back account
Mike B
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07-05-2021 10:45 PM
@discountmagz wrote:I think I'm going to claim NON PROFIT business on my taxes this next year.
If so, that has nothing to do with MP as the fees are a pretty neutral change through July, you would have other issues to resolve not related to MP. Come August 2nd when PP raises their fees, then you will be saving more in fees as compared to if you still used PP.
07-07-2021 02:31 AM
I just made a sale of 319$ item + 18$ shipping and the fee was 63$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost 20%!!!!! This is just so frustrating!!!! Completely unacceptable!!!
07-07-2021 02:50 AM - edited 07-07-2021 02:51 AM
Did you realise sales tax is also subject to FVF's ? Although even with ST that does sound high.
Can you break it down?
Ignore ^^^, you are in Greece and I have no understanding of that countries charges sorry
07-08-2021 11:37 AM
I just got converted, and have a related question.
I am based in Canada, and have a US bank account with a Canadian bank. eBay now sends my US sale proceeds directly to my US account (in Canada). That's great.
However, I have no way to use those US funds to purchase items in USD without incurring a ton of foreign exchange now! PayPal does not let non-US residents link to US denominated bank accounts.
I can do one of the following:
1) Convert USD to CAD here in Canada, and send those to Paypal. Then when I buy US goods, PayPal will charge me to convert from CAD to USD
2) Pay using my Canadian credit card, and let the credit card company pay in USD and charge me their exchange rate. I then still end up needing to convert my sales proceeds back to CAD
Either way, I'm now incurring horrible 'round trip' foreign exchange costs. This is adding something close to 10% to my costs.
The only option I may have would be to get a US denominated credit card from a Canadian Bank, then use that for purchases and use US funds (in my Canadian bank) to pay that bill. Not that I want the hassle of another credit card.
Is there a better solution that I am not seeing?
07-08-2021 11:46 AM
@*tc wrote:I just got converted, and have a related question.
I am based in Canada, and have a US bank account with a Canadian bank. eBay now sends my US sale proceeds directly to my US account (in Canada). That's great.
However, I have no way to use those US funds to purchase items in USD without incurring a ton of foreign exchange now! PayPal does not let non-US residents link to US denominated bank accounts.
I can do one of the following:
1) Convert USD to CAD here in Canada, and send those to Paypal. Then when I buy US goods, PayPal will charge me to convert from CAD to USD
2) Pay using my Canadian credit card, and let the credit card company pay in USD and charge me their exchange rate. I then still end up needing to convert my sales proceeds back to CAD
Either way, I'm now incurring horrible 'round trip' foreign exchange costs. This is adding something close to 10% to my costs.
The only option I may have would be to get a US denominated credit card from a Canadian Bank, then use that for purchases and use US funds (in my Canadian bank) to pay that bill. Not that I want the hassle of another credit card.
Is there a better solution that I am not seeing?
Why do you need to purchase using PayPal? Do you have a Debit Card for your bank account or a credit card? You should be able to use those to pay with instead of PP.
I see your issue. There just has to be a way to move USD from your account so that there isn't extra fees. Have you talked with your bank?
07-08-2021 11:55 AM
i absolutely hate it too, i hate virtually everything about ebay now, quite frankly. i absolutely HAAAAATE the new selling overview, i want the classic view back
07-08-2021 04:12 PM
I want a ⛵
07-17-2021 09:42 AM
Really you still think so ? Shipping cost take 15 to 20 days to post and then they are not the same as when purchased. In and out of your bank account. Paying seller's fee on sale taxes. Have to open a dozen pages to try and see what you are being paid and charged on a sale. WHY on transaction page gives you View Payment details but that just opens another screen to see transaction details? Details No longer breaks down sale show price of item, shipping paid, and taxes just lumps it together and here is your fee.
Who ever is writing these programs needs to get a clue or is it EBay's way of making so hard to track and line their pockets with extra $$$$$$$.
OOOO and do not call EBay for help because you will get none!!!! Customer service can not even fix the smallest problem 99.99 percent of the time so just live with getting screwed if you want to sell on EBay!!!!!!
07-17-2021 09:44 AM
Good luck!
I agree but EBay has us by the NUTS!
Shipping cost take 15 to 20 days to post and then they are not the same as when purchased. In and out of your bank account. Paying seller's fee on sale taxes. Have to open a dozen pages to try and see what you are being paid and charged on a sale. WHY on transaction page gives you View Payment details but that just opens another screen to see transaction details? Details No longer breaks down sale show price of item, shipping paid, and taxes just lumps it together and here is your fee.
Who ever is writing these programs needs to get a clue or is it EBay's way of making so hard to track and line their pockets with extra $$$$$$$.
OOOO and do not call EBay for help because you will get none!!!! Customer service can not even fix the smallest problem 99.99 percent of the time so just live with getting screwed if you want to sell on EBay!!!!!!
07-17-2021 10:40 AM
"...Shipping cost take 15 to 20 days to post" If you are using the Ebay shipping label program, the cost of shipping being pulled from you MP account shows immediately for US shipments or International shipments if you are using USPS. If you are using GSP or the Standard International shipping program for your international shipping, then it does take a few days to appear as a deduction in your MP account and for good reason. It doesn't deduct until it is received by Ebay's clearing center [or whatever you want to call it], they verify that the info on the label is correct, then they bill your MP account for the cost as they move the package forward to your customer. This is nothing new. This is always how these international programs have worked, even before MP, just at that time it was billed to your Monthly Seller Invoice.
The shipping costs if you use the Ebay label program do NOT come out of your bank account. On the label form, when you are creating it, you have a choice. Pay for shipping through your MP account or through your PP account. If you are seeing shipping costs come out of your bank account, then it is likely you have chosen PP account to process these costs and you have your PP account set up to deduct from your bank account.
PP charged fees on Sales tax. So for that portion there is no difference. With the structure of the MP FVF we do now pay the same rate on the balance of the transaction too. So that is an increase in fees to us. Lots of sellers don't like it, so you are in good company. However if you want to know the TRUE impact the MP fees has to your account, you need to compare at least a months worth of fees. You will likely find as many others have that overall fees do not change by much for a month. Some transactions cost a little more and some cost a little less that before. So overall, my six month comparison showed a much more neutral effect on me. I don't pay more for using MP overall in a month.
Keep in mind this is about to change as of August 2nd, when PP increases fees. So a comparison would then show that we are saving a bit more by being in MP verses using PP at that time.
There is a downloadable report that will give you the details you are looking for per transaction.
There is also a detailed report you can download that is by Payout so you can balance those too.
07-17-2021 11:01 AM
eBay and PayPal are separate entities when eBay sold it off in 2015.
The likely reason that eBay is moving to their own payment processing and money management system is all about the fee capture and PayPal's moves to increase their business presence in an off-eBay model.
07-20-2021 08:51 PM
Then eBay needs to let the seller choose more than 3 days of handling time. I recently encountered a sale where it took 2 days for the payout to process and move to my bank, and up to another 3 days for my bank to receive the money, during which time, the bank doesn't even show a credit pending. This isn't acceptable as I was being forced to ship to buyer before seeing any money in my bank accountb and they were crowing at me to ship within the handling period. This was never the case with Paypal where I was able to see the money in my Paypal account within minutes of the purchase and I can ship same day or easily within the maximum 3 day handling period. If eBay's new methods of handling payments are going to take this long, let the seller choose more than 3 days of handling time. I don't want to ship out until I see the money in my bank account.
07-20-2021 11:20 PM
@hoosta wrote:Then eBay needs to let the seller choose more than 3 days of handling time. I recently encountered a sale where it took 2 days for the payout to process and move to my bank, and up to another 3 days for my bank to receive the money, during which time, the bank doesn't even show a credit pending. This isn't acceptable as I was being forced to ship to buyer before seeing any money in my bank accountb and they were crowing at me to ship within the handling period. This was never the case with Paypal where I was able to see the money in my Paypal account within minutes of the purchase and I can ship same day or easily within the maximum 3 day handling period. If eBay's new methods of handling payments are going to take this long, let the seller choose more than 3 days of handling time. I don't want to ship out until I see the money in my bank account.
I'm not sure why you think you can't have a longer handling time than 3 days. There are all kinds of options available to sellers for handling time.
You were not "forced" to ship. You stated a handling time in your listing and the buyer has every right to expect you to honor that. You want more time, all you need to do is change your handling times BEFORE someone buys from you.
07-21-2021 07:17 AM
Well yeah, but I wouldn't be complaining if I didn't try looking. When I when to relist my item, the maximum handling time it allowed me to choose was 3 days, no longer. The choices were: ship same day, 1, 2, and 3 days for handling times in the dropdown. This is at the bottom of the auction listing (before you list it), the same section that "doesn't allow you to opt out of eBay managing payments", handling times, etc. So if you know somewhere else to adjust this then please share.
07-21-2021 10:52 AM
@hoosta wrote:Well yeah, but I wouldn't be complaining if I didn't try looking. When I when to relist my item, the maximum handling time it allowed me to choose was 3 days, no longer. The choices were: ship same day, 1, 2, and 3 days for handling times in the dropdown. This is at the bottom of the auction listing (before you list it), the same section that "doesn't allow you to opt out of eBay managing payments", handling times, etc. So if you know somewhere else to adjust this then please share.
You can't Opt out of MP, because there is no such thing. To sell on Ebay, if you have been invited to join MP, you need to register for the program or you will no longer be able to sell on Ebay. By years end Ebay should have all active sellers onboarded to MP.
As to handling time, you should have the following options.
https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/shipping/handling-time.html#how-handling-time-is-calculated