Ebay's Managed Pay ??? So The Greedy Controlling Cookie Monster Is Making Money With Ours Now !!

[mantoys440]

I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER FOR 15+ YRS. WITH A PERFECT FEEDBACK RATING THE ENTIRE TIME AND THEY SOLD US ON PAYPAL FOR YEARS, UNTIL THEY CAME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN TO MAKE SOME SERIOUS BANK WITH OUR OWN MONEY. US AS SELLERS WHO DO ALL THE WORK CONTINUE TO BE RIPPED OFF LITERALLY BY THIS GIANT COOKIE MONSTER OF A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE  THAT WE ALL MADE SUCH A HUGE SUCCESS. SO WHAT HAVE WE BEEN GETTING IN RETURN AS SELLERS BESIDES THEM DOING NOTHING BUT BEING MORE GREEDY WITH THERE CRIMINAL OBNOXIOUS BEHAVIOR ON HOW THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE MORE & MORE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES BY STEALING FROM US "THE LITTLE PEOPLE" AS MUCH AS THEY CAN GET THERE HANDS ON.

THIS HAS REALLY TURNED INTO AN EVIL HEARTLESS EMPIRE AND I HOPE THAT MANY OF THE LITTLE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF STICK TOGETHER AND PULL OUT OF THIS INSANE CONTROLLING COMPANY  & LET'S HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A MASSIVE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE NOW EVIL EMPIRE !!

I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS AND I WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS AND IF I AM OFF BASE JUST TELL ME WHERE ? US AS SELLERS HAVE BEEN FORCED TO WEATHER MANY SITUATIONS THAT HAVE COST ONLY US IN THE FINAL RESULT OF THERE SCHEME AND SOME OF THESE ARE NOT ETHICAL OR EVEN LEGAL IN MY OPINION. 

NOW I AM RETIRED AND HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A LONG TIME, AND ANY TIME I HAVE PURCHASED AN ITEM AT AN AUCTION, ESTATE GARAGE SALE ECT. THESE PURCHASES ARE AS IS , NO WARRANTY NO RETURNS PERIOD. AS A SELLER ON THIS SITE NO MATTER WHAT THE EVIL JUDGE AND JURY EMPIRE OFFER'S A EBAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE / PRETTY MUCH NO MATTER WHAT.... I HAVE HAD EVEN BRAND NEW ITEM SEALED IN A PACKAGE AND THEN OPENED AND USED & EVEN BROKEN AND GET STUCK BACK WITH THE NOW USELESS ITEM THAT WAS SOLD AS IS NO WARRANTY NO RETURNS, PLUS YOU KNOW YOU SURELY DON'T WANT YOUR FIRST NEGATIVE FEEDBACK OVER A 20.00 ITEM EITHER AND EVEN AT TIMES I WOULD GIVE THEM THE PRODUCT & REFUND THEM AS ALL IT WAS GOING TO DO IS COST ME MORE MONEY IN THE END WITH RETURN SHIPPING.  SO, WHILE I AM TALKING SHIPPING AND I CANNOT BELIEVE TO THIS DAY THE EVIL EMPIRE STILL CHARGES US THE SAME PERCENTAGE FOR  THE SHIPPING AMOUNT AS THE PRODUCT WHEN WE ARE PRINTING A SHIPPING LABEL THROUGH THEM ?? ETHICALLY THAT IS SO SO WRONG AND THAT LABEL IS PROOF THAT, THAT AMOUNT SHOULDN'T BE CHARGED PERIOD !! NOT TO MENTION THE PACKING MATERIALS, COMPUTER, PRINTER, PAPER, INK, TIME  ELECTRICITY & VEHICLE EXPENSES INCLUDING GAS ARE ON OUR DIME & I UNDERSTAND NOT BEING ABLE TO WRITE THIS OFF AS  WE ARE NOT BUSINESSES - BUT THE SHIPPING PRICE IS A NO BRAINER AND I WOULDN'T PUT IT PAST THEM, AS THEY ARE PROBABLY EVEN MAKING MONEY ON THAT AS WELL, AS WE ARE TRUSTING THEM AT THE DISCOUNT USPS OFFERS THEM WHEN WE PRINTING OUR LABELS THROUGH EBAY. 

 MANAGED PAY - AND YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR ON THIS - THERE JUST AS EVIL FINANCIAL ADVISORS FIGURED OUT THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD BE LOSING SOME GOOD A+ SELLER'S  IN THIS PONZI SCHEME THAT IS  ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL, THAT IN THE BROAD SCHEME OF THINGS THEY WILL BE MAKING BILLIONS PER MONTH USING THE SELLER'S PROFIT IN THERE INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS WHILE OUR MONEY COULD BE SITTING IN THERE FOR WEEKS AT A TIME AND YOU COULDN'T COMPREHEND THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THEY WILL MAINTAIN IN THERE ACCOUNT - SO BELIEVE ME I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE PINCH THEY WILL FEEL FROM PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT ARE TELLING THEM TO POUND SALT, BUT TRUST ME THEY COULD GIVE A HOOT, AND THEY WOULD RATHER DISREGARD US LIKE A PIECE OF LITTER !! AND IF THEY WERE HONEST & TRANSPARENT BROKERS THIS MONEY ( OUR MONEY ) WOULD BE IN EITHER A NON INTEREST ESCROW ACCOUNT WHILE THEY ARE HOLDING IT HOSTAGE OR IN A INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT IN OUR NAMES AND PAID TO US WITH INTERST. REGARDLESS THIS IS BEYOND UNETHICAL AND IT WOULD BE ONE THING IF MANAGED PAY WAS A PUNISHMENT FOR PROBLEM SELLERS THAT THEY HAD TO ENFORCE IF THAT SELLER STILL WANTED TO SELL ON THERE SITE. I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE SOLD SOMETHING AND LET IT LEAVE BEFORE I WAS PAID AND I REFUSE TO SELL MY SOUL TO THIS EVIL NETWORK !!  THERE ARE PLENTY OFF SITES THAT I AM NOW CURRENTLY SELLING MY PERSONAL ITEMS ON AND SOME OF THEM ARE 100% FREE, AND EBAY DID BLOW A GOOD THING FOR MANY SELLER AS I HAVE SPENT JUST AS MUCH BUYING ON THIS SITE AS I DID SELLING AND ESPECIALLY IF I DIDN'T HAVE  ALL OF THE MONEY AND THERE WAS SOMETHING ON AUCTION THAT I WANTED, AND I WOULD QUICKLY LIST SOMETHING I DIDN'T NEED AT A GREAT BUY IT NOW PRICE AND HAVE THE MONEY TO BID ON THE ITEM I WANTED, PLUS PAYPAL WAS NICE TO KEEP AS MY EBAY BLOW MONEY ON MANY ITEMS. BUT NOW THAT HAS ALL CHANGED.  & GET THIS ONE IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLES OF THE SAME ITEM TO SELL UNLIKE PAYPAL WHEN THE BUY BUYS 3 IT'S ONE TRANSACTION FEE, BUT NOT WITH THE NEW AND IMPROVED EBAY IT WILL NOW BE 3 TRANSACTION FEES ??  ISN'T IT SOMETHING FOR US NON BUSINESS SELLERS WHO EARNED THEIR MONEY PAID THERE INCOME TAXES, AND BOUGHT WHAT THEY WANTED AND PAID SALES TAX AND NOW RESELL YOUR ITEMS AND THE BUYER NOW PAYS INTERNET SALES TAX WHICH REALLY RESULTS IN THE SELLER LOSING MORE MONEY NOW WITH THE ADDED TAXES ALONE.... SO DON'T WONDER WHY YOUR $10.00 SCREWDRIVER YOU SOLD ON EBAY IS NOW ONLY A  $6.00 SCREWDRIVER AND WONDER WHY IT JUST SCREWED YOU BACK THE DAY IT SOLD !!!

AND YES I GOT TO FEEL THE COOKIE MONSTER TODAY WHEN I WENT TO LOWER ONE OF MY PRICES ON A ITEM PRE-MANAGED PAY LISTING AND I CANNOT DO THAT EITHER UNLESS I AM WILL TO SIGN AWAY MY SOUL AND GIVE THEM MY BANK ACCOUNT FOR THERE INGRESS & EGRESS INTO MY PERSONAL LIFE AND WHO KNOWS WHEN YOU PAID YOUR HOUSE PAYMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT THE COOKIE MONSTER WILL STRIKE AND YOUR CHECKBOOK  WILL INSTANTLY TURN INTO A RUBBER BALL BOUNCING OFF OUR HEADS OR THEY GET HACKED ( LIKE THEY ALREADY HAVE IN THE PAST) AND THIS TIME IT WILL OUR ACCOUNTS AND AFFECT MILLIONS IN LARGEST IDENTITY THEFT RING EVER. ALSO WATCH OUT AS UNCLE SAM WILL SEE ALL THESE LITTLE DEPOSITS IN YOUR ACCOUNT AND NEXT YOU WILL BE A BUSINESS OR ELSE !!!

I WOULD ALSO BET, AS I HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FORUM IN A LONG WHILE NOW,  BUT I KNOW THEY ROLL AND HAVE THEIR OWN HIRED EBAY TROLL'S ON THE PAYROLL TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR BAD BILL OF GOODS AS USUAL !! SO GOOD LUCK DEFENDING THIS MANEUVER, AND I JUST HEARD ON THE NEWS THEY ARE NOW BANNING CERTAIN DR. SEUSS BOOKS ??   I  WOULD BET THAT THEY NOW EAT LUNCH WITH THE OWNERS OF FACEBOOK & TWITTER AND ARE NOW EXCHANGES IDEAS OF HOW THEY CAN GAIN MORE & MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR USERS RESULTING IN THEM SWIMMING IN OUR HARD EARNED GREEN BACKS  !! 

                                                                       THANKS BUT NO THANKS EBAY  !!!!

[silverstatetreasureboxes]

@mantoys440 

    Whew! That was painful to read!!!!

Where are my eye drops????

[calntom]

Do you really expect anyone to attempt to read that?

[mantoys440]

I know, and I speak from the heart and for many of my fellow Ebayer's who work hard, and have always treated  our buyers like we were the buyer. Our world is changing, and unfortunately not in a good direction & we all need to start standing for what is right !! I have always loved Ebay and  just dealt with the things I didn't support, but this one took it way to far for me !!

[mantoys440]

That's what's great about living in America , your right to make your own decision on what you want to read !! I hope we dont lose that next.....

[luckythewinner]

@mantoys440 wrote:

I JUST HEARD ON THE NEWS THEY ARE NOW BANNING CERTAIN DR. SEUSS BOOKS ??   I  WOULD BET THAT THEY NOW EAT LUNCH WITH THE OWNERS OF FACEBOOK & TWITTER AND ARE NOW EXCHANGES IDEAS OF HOW THEY CAN GAIN MORE & MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR USERS RESULTING IN THEM SWIMMING IN OUR HARD EARNED GREEN BACKS  !! 

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How does banning Dr. Seuss books take money from sellers?

[releasethekraken_1]

Not reading that. I value my eyesight; it's bad enough dealing with the new page design.

[mantoys440]

I wasnt implying that ?? But I guess it does if your a seller & I guess in this politically incorrect world we live in they will banning the air that we breath next because it's bad also. So who's will be next Micky Mouse !!

[silverstatetreasureboxes]

@mantoys440 

     Well your second post was a lot easier to read. I'm sorry but I just couldn't get thru all that angry shouting running novel. I would however like to hear what you have to say, can you explain in smaller lower case content?

[magicjohnsonsvariety]

You couldn't pay me to read that.....Too hard on the eyes when u use all caps.

[mantoys440]

Hi, I couldnt agree with you more, and I probably should not have vented like I did. But I am very troubled along with just about every Ebay member that is feeling this huge burden that Ebay is forcing us to go along with in order to be able to sell our items. There isnt a other site like this for the Average Joe and I dont trust any site that is not a financial institution with having access our personal bank accounts period. Let alone holding and profiting from our funds for up to weeks & more. If you can get past my anger in what I wrote I think it will be in context as to what I am try to convey to you. Again my apologies for venting my disgust!!

[oatey9000]

I was forced into this Managed Payment **bleep** and now I cannot sell A 1945 Wheat PENNY!! Because if you are in Managed payments you cannot sell coins or paper money, even though hundreds of people are selling coins and paper money.  The absolute worst part is there is no way to contact ebay, not by phone, email, text, chat... nothing.  I should have never left Paypal as it seems that people are ignoring the threats from ebay to change to Managed payments. Something very wrong is going on at ebay. It is like no humans are working there anymore.

[calntom]

It is the all caps and no paragraphs. 

[mantoys440]

As you can obviously see, I feel your frustration along with millions of others including poor old Abe. I refused to sign away my soul to Ebay & Its Managed Pay Scheme which = Them profiting from every seller hard earned dollar for weeks at a time in many case resulting in the huge amounts of cash they will be making in interest alone, let alone they are not a FDIC insured financial institution, but they are demanding & expect us to trust them with our personal bank accounts ??  At Least with PayPal they were a intermediary company that is solely involved with handling funds & legit claims, and even loans money. Also lets not forget they are a means of payment that is recognized worldwide.   Ebay is nothing but a website to sell your items on, and unlike any other site, this Giant Monopoly has crossed the line like no other.  I can only wish & hope that us the people that built this monstrosity will stand up  against this horrific madness being forced upon us all !! It may sting a little bit but anyone with a store needs to put there vacation settings on (to shut off there sales) & us, the little people need to cease buying on this site & listing on this site. It's the only tool in our tool box !!! & maybe with a little more luck someone with money will file a class action lawsuit for us all to join in .... 

[calntom]

Let us know where you end up selling your products where they do not have a managed payments program. Amazon and Etsy are the same. I get paid every 2 weeks on Amazon, direct deposit into the same bank account eBay uses. I don't sell on Etsy. 

Payments coming into PayPal are a thing of the past. This is Ecommerce 2021.