09-18-2020 12:30 PM
Okay, there is a lot of negativity surrounding MP from a handful of sellers, so here are a few things that I like, after around 10 days of participation in the program:
- partial refunds for things like combined shipping are a snap - so much easier than going into PayPal, hunting and pecking for the right order to refund
- I like that I can pay for s/h out of pending funds or not-yet-disbursed funds!
- nice that I can get a payout once a week, rather than daily - much easier to keep track of eBay funds, which I move to a sub-account after receipt
09-19-2020 10:33 AM - last edited on 09-22-2020 06:45 PM by kh-gary
Put the item number in PayPal and up pops the sale and refund as much or little as you wish.
While I agree that finding the proper transaction on PP is easy to do, it is however easier In MP. We don't have to go log into a separate account. It is all in one spot right on Ebay. That alone makes it easier.
Taking monies out of your account for shipping today's packages from today's sales is just bad business.
Why is that? For many years many sellers paid for shipping from their PP payments. Why is this process different to you?
I don't think you understand that today's shipping sale will not hit your bank for 4-7 days. The record keeping is a joke.
That is a different issue from shipping payments. But yes, the delays in processing transfers is very problematic for many sellers and needs Ebay's attention on fixing this problem now. But the OP wasn't speaking to the faults of MP nor were they trying to list the pros and cons of MP. They were just trying to list some of the positive attributes of the program. They neither mentioned or dismissed any problems you or others are having nor were they dismissive of them as you are being with them.
AS to the reports. They do desperately need improvement. There is no doubt of that and sooner rather than later.
09-19-2020 10:39 AM
@popblox wrote:🤪
Honestly, I stand behind my
insultscomments lol. My suspicions warranted a query since none of those underlying factors involving the OP's true identity were foreseeable under the circumstances - they could've easily included a tag with their original ID, seeing how someone with all that experience would expect others to be confused by such a random post by a 0 feedback user. I'd like to add that only 50% of this conspiracy has been disproven! What of the OP?
I regret nothing! 💃💃💃💃
You have every right to stand behind them. That doesn't however make them correct. There is no requirement in the community to fork over selling IDs in order to make other posters feel better about what they may post. There are some very good reasons why someone may choose not to put their selling ID at risk by using it on the threads. Probably the most common one is not risking attacks on their selling accounts by posters that feel very passionately about how they disagree with that poster.
Conspiracy???!??!?!??!!! So you think others are conspiring against you??? Why??
09-19-2020 10:54 AM
@mr_lincoln wrote:@powell-memorabilia Your application to the MP Cheering Squad has been accepted ... you can pick up your saddle shoes and pom-poms on Tuesday, which is the next Weekly MP Payout. There will be a minor FEE for the gear but that will come out of your Pending funds unless there is not enough to cover the costs if that is the case then your Automatic Payment source will be tapped into for the payment.
One correction for your post, " ... negativity surrounding MP from a handful of sellers, ..." "handful of sellers" needs to be changed to "the vast majority of Sellers" for it to be more accurate.
... levity is good ...
As far as I know, you and I get along just fine and have for many years. We do however have some different opinions on MP that has caused us to collide a few times on various threads. And in this case I think you are being very unfair to the OP.
Because someone wants to have a thread about the positive experiences of MP, how in the world does that make them a Cheerleader?? And why in the world does it make what they have to say any less important than what you have to say in speaking out against MP. Why is it only those that have negative things to say about MP that have valid posts?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I know you know this but you continue doing this and saying stuff like this, WHY? Why is it only the negative comments about MP that can be spoken on threads without risking attacks like are present on this thread by you and others?
Last time I checked it was fine to have differences of opinions and view points. Over the years I know for myself I've learned a whole lot from CIVIL debates on the threads. We after all are suppose to be all adults here. I see absolutely no need or place for name calling, period. Disagree fine. I get that. But name calling is very juvenile and completely unnecessary.
Your quote from the MP is makes it seem different than what I think the OP intended. I think the OP was talking about a handful of sellers on the threads being negative about MP. Not that only a handful of sellers had issues with MP. Neither you, I or they have any way of knowing how many sellers have issues with MP. Certainly likely more than come to the threads just as there are likely more than come to the threads that aren't having big issues with MP. It is a mixture. Both viewpoints should be able to post what they see without people calling them names.
Now to the positives of MP. The OP was accurate in what they described. You may not like it that there are positive aspects to MP but there are and your disagreement doesn't change the facts.
Ease in issuing refunds.
On Full refunds the FVF is fully refunded to the seller and they keep the 30 transaction fee just like PP did, however PP did not refund their other fees.
Having all the information in one spot in our Seller Hub is beneficial.
If we refund for a cancellation, we get our fees back too, we didn't with PP.
TRSP get their discount calculated on the entire FVF which includes the payment processing fee so it increases their discounts a little bit.
All of those things are facts. None of those things take away for the serious issues some are having with MP. Those issues, each and every one of them are important and need to be resolved. Speaking about the pluses of MP does NOT take away from that. It is just a different discussion about MP.
09-19-2020 01:07 PM
@powell-memorabilia wrote:Okay, there is a lot of negativity surrounding MP from a handful of sellers, so here are a few things that I like, after around 10 days of participation in the program:
- partial refunds for things like combined shipping are a snap - so much easier than going into PayPal, hunting and pecking for the right order to refund
- I like that I can pay for s/h out of pending funds or not-yet-disbursed funds!
- nice that I can get a payout once a week, rather than daily - much easier to keep track of eBay funds, which I move to a sub-account after receipt
I'm finding all of this to be true, also - but I didn't doubt it given that the other three sites I use all have integrated payments, IF eBay could manage their end of it, which they seem to be doing. I particularly like not having that big bill at the end of month. Most of the complaints I've been reading about MP seem mostly fear-based (which seems to be a common problem these days) - a lot of this could have been ameliorated by eBay being more disclosive and not so Secret Squirrel about their payments information - that has been very poorly done and IMHO caused much more harm than good. People are not children - they don't need to be spoon fed information.
Disclaimer: I don't work for eBay, received no potato for my post and own no pom-poms.
09-20-2020 06:26 AM
Eb saves themselves money with mp's on their credit card fees and I lose money by not being able to pay for my fees with 1.5% cash-back credit card. So eb saves a ton of money and I pay 2-5% higher monthly selling fees with mp's.
09-20-2020 09:50 AM
@oldold-timer wrote:Eb saves themselves money with mp's on their credit card fees and I lose money by not being able to pay for my fees with 1.5% cash-back credit card. So eb saves a ton of money and I pay 2-5% higher monthly selling fees with mp's.
I'm not sure what brings you to that conclusion. Someone is paying CC fees. If not MP, then who? Probably the single most beneficial thing to Ebay is getting their fees paid up front. That would significantly increase their cash flow. They also get a fee for processing the money as well, just like PP was charging. But from that comes expenses like CC fees.
As to your increased MP fees. You've said that on at least two other threads I know of. I responded to those posts, but you never came back to the threads. MP has not increased fees over what we paid before MP. Except for those that were enrolled in PP's micro payments. We aren't saving money either. But at least it isn't an increase for most of us.
I know for those that use to pay their FVFs with a CC that gave them cash back bonuses this new method of payment through MP has been hard to adjust to. But we aren't talking about so much money that it should cause a hardship. For every $100 of fees you are losing $1.50 in cash back bonuses. Annoying sure, but it shouldn't become a hardship.
09-20-2020 10:08 AM
Well here is my perspective:
09-20-2020 10:26 AM
Just a little bit of information you may not realize/understand...
MP is a program/system in which Adyen does, (at the very least), the payment processing of buyers for ebay at a % rate the two (eBay/Adyen) agreed upon. Any CC fees are paid by Adyen.
09-20-2020 10:55 AM
@tev4all wrote:Just a little bit of information you may not realize/understand...
MP is a program/system in which Adyen does, (at the very least), the payment processing of buyers for ebay at a % rate the two (eBay/Adyen) agreed upon. Any CC fees are paid by Adyen.
MP is a program that Ebay runs. Ebay has hired Adyen to be their payment processor. Adyen doesn't just absorb the costs due to CC processing fees without an agreement in place for MP/ Ebay to pay them. There would of course be a contract in place that we may never know the details to, but in the end MP does have costs of doing business. They don't get Adyen and CC fees for free. There would be a business arrangement in place so that both companies are properly compensated.
09-20-2020 11:23 AM
@mam98031 wrote:
@tev4all wrote:Just a little bit of information you may not realize/understand...
MP is a program/system in which Adyen does, (at the very least), the payment processing of buyers for ebay at a % rate the two (eBay/Adyen) agreed upon. Any CC fees are paid by Adyen.
MP is a program that Ebay runs. Ebay has hired Adyen to be their payment processor. Adyen doesn't just absorb the costs due to CC processing fees without an agreement in place for MP/ Ebay to pay them. There would of course be a contract in place that we may never know the details to, but in the end MP does have costs of doing business. They don't get Adyen and CC fees for free. There would be a business arrangement in place so that both companies are properly compensated.
I never said they get Adyen and CC fees for free.
I said "Any CC fees are paid by Adyen"
Just like PayPal does when they process payments, on any website/B&M situation.
Adyen and eBay's MP are two separate entities, that have a contractual agreement. They are not the same thing.
It looks like, you think they are one and the same, by what you post sometimes.
09-20-2020 01:27 PM
General post:
I think we're forgetting the BUYER in a lot of these conversations.
Time marches on, and Paypal is only one of several large payment systems at this time. Restricting a large marketplace site to Paypal only is poor planning. Making Paypal ONE of several eligible payment systems is good planning. My concern is that buyers have numerous ways to pay (including Paypal), making it convenient for them, not clinging onto old ways of doing things as a seller just because it's what I'm used to.
09-23-2020 06:51 AM
Where do you see "TRS+ discount now applies to the TOTAL fees that are being charged." ?
Sales report? and what column?
Thank you.
09-27-2020 12:24 AM
You have been a member of eBay since 6/7/2020. You can't possibly have a full understanding of the issues or the long term effects of problematic programs. I see many members writing these days on this site. Like you with a new account and your conversation that sound like the kool aide in the office. Are you sure you are not a eBay employee??
09-27-2020 10:07 AM
Why cant ebay compromise !! When a buyer pays with pay pal then let it process like it always had and when paid thru another method they can manage that ? I could live with those terms and maybe sign up for managed payments but for ebay to throw a wrench in the spokes of payments made with pay pal is just wrong in my thoughts. Pat pal is already an established payment form and should be left alone. I think my thoughts are very valid ! Ebay could bend some instead of having such a stiff neck ! they would still make money from the selling fees where now they are losing many sellers over this the way it stands !!