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That Little Old Winemaker......

no wine thread so here goes. Production is still going strong. Jut getting the last push on before I quit for the summer. Got 2 in primary, one ready for filtering/bottling, and still got a kit in the box. Bought a kit yesterday that I spurged on. it was a 6 week kit/18L that was on sale for $109. Quite the kit. Juice, bag of wine skins, hungarian oak shavings, hungarian oak cubes for later stage, plus the normal ingredients. It has to age for 9-12 months. So figured I would do it now as opposed to wait til next fall and wait that much more for its completion. The guy told me that after 12 months, you'll appreciate spending that kind of cash for the kit. Since getting home from away and starting wine in march I've made; -Barolo -Strawberry zinfindel -European chardonnay -sauvignon blanc -nebbiolo and brewing is tropical blush and French grenache syrah mourvedre how's your winemaking going Dot?
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We siphoned some Nebbiolo from the carboy for supper last night (didn't bottle it yet, just filtered it yesterday morning) Very interesting wine. kinda translucent in color- not a deep colored red. Taste is nothing like I had before but had that rich body to it. quite good. The expensive kit is fermenting nicely. Eating super last night and all you could smell was 2 kits fermenting. Thought we were gonna get drunk off the smell alone.
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Funny story ref winemaking. Any typical white trash clients/co workers the missus gets/works with think we're alcoholics because we make wine and we drink it with many suppers a week, but any european descent ex. italian haridressers she works with think it is fascinating that we "Cdn white trash" folk make wine. She said none of them make their own, they buy it and drink every day with meals,etc. and nothing wrong with us having it every night with super (ok not quite every night)
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Dave, Once in Florida when I was heavy into the wine making, I had just bottled up my Concord Grape wine for a rest and had no realy good place to store it. I lived in a very small two room apartment and the only place to store the wine was the linen closet. Dark, cool and available. Consider what happens when the weather gets hot and the air conditioner quits and all of a sudden you hear a muffled....pop! I was almost asleep when I heard another one.....pop!......pop,pop!......pop! Yikes and gadzooks!!!!!!!! You know what grape wine does to all your linens? It seems that the wine was not quite finished and wanted to become a sparkling wine....all over the place! I managed to save only two bottles and they were good, but we had to buy all new linens. As for drinking every night........ SmileyCentral.com
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crazyd37
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My wine making is going great. I have enough equipment to keep 2 (6) gal going at once (for the basic kits) and a few gal sized for the home made stuff. (I have one 6 gal fermentation bucket & 2 (6) gal carboys) One 5 gallon carboy, 2 (2 1/2 gallon) and a few other plastic food type containers. I have learned that if it contained something you can eat or drink you can use it. And doesn't that save $$$$$$$ Yes I also have the hydrometers, basic "chemicals" and all the other crap. I have a gravity filter system that I like, and I have taken over the one cordless drill for stirring and the heat gun for the shrinks! I am considering going a bit further than kits so my work area will need to get a little bigger. I am running out of room! (I also tried those big soda bottles once) I have everyone I know save bottles, I buy some when I need to and since we have to recycle here, every week when Ed or I take our recycle to the center, we "pick" up a few bottles from there! Since starting this hobby in Jan of '08, I have: -Barolo (enjoyed a young bottle recently, not bad but still very young) -Merlot -Chardonnay (have enjoyed a couple bottles) -Riesling (never was a fan, but this one is incredible) -table white (powder kit, don't care for it)(have you tried these?) -table red ("")(although I have a friend that loved it, go figure!) -California Chardonnay (this one is great) -Pinot Grigio (bottle 4/24) -Blackberry Merlot (for my daughters sweet tooth! She took home 2 bottles and this one should be good, but I probably won't drink it as it is too sweet for my taste) (bottled 5/21) I have an apricot gallon still in the works from a book Pete sent me. This one is taking its time. I almost threw it away as it developed that "smell" but have been able to clear it. It is super sweet and starting to clear now, so I'll let you know. (I made saucy susan out of the remaining apricots, that came out super and one of Ed's favorite bbq sauces!) So, I had to buy a commercial rack to house some of this in my cellar. I also have another smaller rack so I can house about 200 or so bottles. (which I am either at or near) It's hard to keep up with the quantity as every time my son comes over, he helps himself! I want to get a few more in the works soon so I can take a break for awhile. I work in my office so it usually smells pretty good in here. I will have to do the stabilizing & clearing in the cellar since it is cooler downstairs during the summer however. I used your heating pad method this winter to keep the temp right during the primary fermentation and it was a God send! Thanks. (I keep my house cool in the winter) I also try to keep good notes for "next time" for each one and the different brands of kits. I am hoping to make some gallon types this summer of special kinds for shi#s & giggles. (Pete's book will come in handy there too!) Personally I could care less what people think of my wino-ism! I am the wine drinker in this house and everyone I know is aware that I love my wine. Their opinion means nothing to me! (especially those that want a sample!) Oh, and I just love the few that expect a bottle when its finished! Expect!!! hahahaha I only share with the good people if you know what I mean. -- Edited by crazyd37 at 05/27/2008 6:11 AM PDT -- Edited by crazyd37 at 05/27/2008 6:13 AM PDT
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That does it! I'm tearing out the layout and creating a wine cellar in the basement! Don't lose that book Dot! I may want it back......;-)
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I have come up with the idea that each Red kit I do I am putting some in a bottle and setting it aside as a tester bottle. Basically I am putting all these 'testers' aside and let them age a year and then I will make note of which one build up more sediment,which filter I used, etc, flavor,etc... just handy little notes to have in my book on what one tasted really good after a while,etc... Most of my wine doesn't get past the one year mark as it usually gets drank, except 2 whites I did last year. We don't enjoy those ones very much at all. couple years ago I did up a California Red that got better with age until the 5 month mark and then it went the other way. Not that it didn't taste good or spoil,etc, just became a lot drier. All my batches are 4 week kits. No Dot. I have not tried or seen for that fact the powder kit you speak of. -- Edited by dl85vette at 05/27/2008 7:25 PM PDT
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Dot, your primary you speak of (buckets) they are known as food grade plastic. Don't buy buckets on sale at Home Depot, they use a different chemical release agent when molding the buckets. What else did I want to mention. Don't use plastic carboys for fruit wines as the flavor will absorb into the plastic. Personally I just spend the extra oney and stick with glass carboys to begin with. Glad to hear your enjoying your drinkable hobby. Pete you can keep your layout...you just need to move closer to one of us 🙂
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Do you have a pump to use with your filter system Dot? If not, it is a worthy investment. It makes racking a breeze and filtering/bottling hassle free. Another investment is buying a spring loaded bottle filler. I had one of those normal bottle filler tubes that just stays closed with wine pressure and you insert in bottle and push on it for flow The darn thing would leak or continue to flow if the needle got stuck. The spring loaded nozzle is MUCH better. No worries of nozzle sticking open when you've filled a bottle and pulling it out. ANother tip: if you or Ed are handy with tools, build your own rack out of 2X4s. I built mine with 4 shelves with plywood dividers on it shelf so I have 12 compartments. That way each batch is separated making it easy for storage and for identifying each type.
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Gee youse guys is fancy! When I made wine it was in a 5 gal glass water bottle stolen....er, borrowed from the office. I had a water bubble trap on the top to let the gasses out while the wine worked. Filter you say? All I ever did was use "rock candy" to clear the wine. When it came time to bottle the wine, the sediment was already in the bottom, I just poured it into my bottles with a funnel. Yes I had a manual corker, but nothing fancy like you guys. Oh yes. I had purple feet too!!!! B-) PS: "Borrowed" plastic milk crates make great storage bins. Who needs separators. Just pile the bottles on top of each other. Takes up less space.
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crazyd37
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Dave All my equipment is food grade. I read enough stories about people using odd stuff and personally I don't want to ruin any wine I am making. I do have a few plastic containers that were free so frankly, if they retain a smell or anything else, I can dispose of them or recycle them. I use the bottle filler that you used to use and have had no problems so far. I also am putting up some beer sized (I call them sample sized) bottles too so I don't have to open a full bottle for sampling. Seems to be working so far. I prefer the dry wines, so I am waiting, almost impatiently for that to occur! I'll trade you for those dry whites you don't care for!!!!!!! One of my biggest problems with the 6 gal glass carboys is the weight. I'll tell you my arms get pretty sore lifting full bottles! Like I said, I work in my office & my kitchen right now and need to lift them to my table or counter when I am ready. (usually the night before) Perhaps I will develop some muscles now! I did build one of those 2 x 4 wine racks. (fits about 40 or 50) It is nice, but short and since space was a problem and going verticle was my answer, I bought one of those commercial racks. I may buy another. (mine is over capacity right now) It will hold approx 170 bottles, and I have more than that now. So when my small rack is full I may get that new one.I even keep some right in the box and store it on the side. It's not like alot of people "see" my storage anyway! I hope I am done with most of the larger equipment expenses for now. I do have a good floor corker. I don't mind the slow bottling for now. Usually its only 30 bottles at a time anyway. I have had a few more than that and didn't mind. The days that go really well are the days I bottle early in the morning and just have to sample until I am finished. And better yet, the last 1/2 bottle that won't fit into any of my recepticles. I just love it when I have to finish that up! I do have a great day then! Now I think I will go browsing for a new kit. Cherries are coming to season as strawberries will be soon. I have a few requests to try them. Pete's book has some recipes for the gallon size which will make 5 bottles. So we may have 5 bottles of each of those soon too! Happy winemaking!
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Pete my rack has 12 compartments and each compartment holds a batch so bottles are stacked on top of each other in each compartment.
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I am by no means a drinker anymore (diabetes) but I sure wouldn't mind sampling some of these gems you are discussing. ]:)
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g-pa1
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Just booked a land trolley wine tasting trip around Seneca lake (one of the finger lakes) for July. We're almost out of the Australian Chardonnay we made last Nov. A person we bottled with is now making wine at home and will make it for us if we buy the kit and supply bottles and corks for $30.00.
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crazyd37
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Gene, A few years ago we went to the Finger Lakes for a very long weekend and enjoyed many of the wineries there. We went with another couple and had a blast. Good thing you will be on the trolley as some of the sampling can be lengthy and then you must be careful not to drink & drive. As you can guess, I didn't drive, I had fun! Have fun wine tasting. Let us know all about it. Just a thought here, instead of spending the $30 to have your friend do it for you, invest a small amount more and do it yourself! It truely is easy and fun and you can control everything that goes into it. Just a thought! (then you will have the equip for the next batch, and the next...) -- Edited by crazyd37 at 05/29/2008 10:01 AM PDT
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