11-13-2020 02:02 PM
one set i don't think i've ever mentioned is my composition type set... no precious metals in it, just one of each of 39 different compositions pulled when i dropped my world set years ago...
they range from aluminum to zinc, with many types of coated, plated, clad, and bonded... those are the descriptions from Krause...
for example, there is a bronze plated steel, a copper coated iron, nickel bonded steel, etc...
one is copper-nickel clad nickel, and another is nickel clad copper-nickel... all sorts of combinations...
nothing extremely interesting in it, just something i did for fun while breaking up the huge set... but a couple kind of stand out... the copper example is a Turkey 40 para from 1859, and a 1992 20 francs from France with an outer ring of copper-aluminum-nickel, an inner ring of nickel, and a center plug of copper-aluminum-nickel... kinda/sorta a trimetal coin, but not really...
included in the same binder is a shape set... only 6 coins in it... triangle, diamond, hexagon, heptagon, octagon, and a dodecagon...
i haven't worked on building either one up... maybe some day...
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02-14-2021 08:27 AM
A situation report: This past week Heron acquired his first ever nickel-plated
zinc coin/token. A Kriegsgeld item of 1917. This composition & shape accumulating is becoming a really fun part of coin and token collecting!
11-13-2020 02:58 PM
here is a list of the compositions in the binder:
aluminum
aluminum bronze
aluminum nickel bronze
aureate bronze plated nickel
aureate steel
brass
brass coated steel
bronze coated steel
brass plated steel
bronze plated steel
copper
copper aluminum nickel
copper nickel zinc
copper tin zinc
copper coated iron
copper coated steel
copper plated iron
copper plated steel
copper plated zinc
copper nickel
copper nickel coated copper
copper nickel coated nickel
copper nickel coated steel
chromium steel
iron
nickel
nickel brass
nickel bronze
nickel steel
nickel bonded steel
nickel clad copper nickel
nickel coated steel
nickel plated copper
nickel plated iron
nickel plated steel
stainless steel
tin zinc
zinc
yes, that's only 38... the 39th is the French 20 francs in the OP...
11-13-2020 05:03 PM
Wow! That is a great list of metals and alloys. Heron never knew there were that many
combinations. Learn something new everyday!
11-13-2020 05:12 PM
That shape set is interesting. Heron does not have a dodecagon. However, there is another
'shape' that could be added. It is a 'square'. Heron has a square shaped token issued by a
plantation in the Mexican State of Chiapas. It also has a date... 1898. (pretty sure it is 1898,
maybe 1899?)
11-13-2020 05:17 PM
well, the diamond would be a square if the devices were shifted 45 degrees... LOL
11-14-2020 12:44 PM
YES! However, that might 'work' for younger folks. Heron would have to lie down on his side to
read the legends and might have trouble re-gaining a vertical position!
(What about 'scalloped' edge coins? Would they 'count' in the 'shape' types?
11-14-2020 01:06 PM
scalloped edge coins? that sounds fine to me... they have distinct sides, they're just a little curvier than usual...
11-15-2020 11:27 AM
Re scalloped edge: Took Heron almost 24 hours to remember where he had stored a scalloped
edge token. Finally remembered the Costa Rica coffee plantation token 'box'. Here is
some information on this scalloped edge token:
The token measures 27mm from outer edge to outer edge of scallops.
(Perhaps they are called 'lobes'? Something Heron does NOT know.)
There are 12 identical scallops. (Perhaps they can be called 'scallops'?)
The token planchet is copper.
There is a small hole at center of 3mm dia. It appears to have been added after planchet
was manufactured.
On one side: F.
U. C. (both the U and the C are lying on 'sides')
Bean (An oval with line through it lengthwise which could represent
a coffee bean. Most likely a coffee bean because this token
was purchased in a batch of Costa Rica coffee tokens).
On 2nd side: Triangle with: 1
__
That is the only readable part of this side of token. What it means Heron knows not.
Heron has never been able to find anyone that can ID this token.
All the letters and triangle are counter-punched.
Anyone having any information about this please share.
11-15-2020 12:00 PM
Here is another 'shape' that Heron found in the Costa Rica plantation 'box' whilst searching for
the 'scalloped' edge token:
This is an oval token. Measures 30mm in length and 21mm 'wide'. Metal = Aluminum.
This token has all 'raised' lettering.
Side 1 - PACHECO SANCHEZ HNOS (hnos abbreviation for 'brothers').
SAN FRANCISCO
HEREDIA
(San Francisco is a small community near or in the town of Heredia Costa Rica).
Side 2 - UNA
CAJUELA
(Cajuela is a term for measurement. A 'capacity' measure. A rectangular box made of
wood or steel holding 12kg of harvested coffee beans.
In addition, Heron was advised by a Mexicano coin & token dealer that the word cajuela
can also mean 'basket' in the Mexican coffee plantation areas. A basket that holds a specific
amount of coffee beans. The workers are paid by the 'box' or 'basket')
(In addition, Heron found a 7 sided coffee plantation token that he had never examined
closely. Fun numismatic stuff with this 'shape' category!).
11-15-2020 01:41 PM
if the "corners" are sharp enough, an oval could be considered a 2 sided shape...
11-15-2020 02:03 PM
The Sanchez Brothers coffee plantation token has nice smooth rounded 'ends'. No sharp endings.
11-15-2020 02:16 PM
@elheron-grande wrote:
@*smedley* wrote:...
included in the same binder is a shape set... only 6 coins in it... triangle, diamond, hexagon, heptagon, octagon, and a dodecagon...
...
That shape set is interesting. Heron does not have a dodecagon. However, there is another
'shape' that could be added. It is a 'square'. Heron has a square shaped token issued by a
plantation in the Mexican State of Chiapas. It also has a date... 1898. (pretty sure it is 1898,
maybe 1899?)
Another shape that could be added to a shape set would be a unidecagon ... 11 sides. Should be very easy to find an example: the Canadian $1 coin, the loonie, is a unidecagon.
I believe this was mentioned in the Canadian press when the design for the loonie was announced. There might have been a contest or some kind. My mother saw the information, and asked me as a trivia question if I knew what an 11-sided shape was called. I didn't, but I thought of "decagon" and "dodecagon" and got the right answer anyway.
Mum was disappointed that she wasn't able to stump me, but proud that I got the answer correct (typical response for a mother). Apparently, most people weren't able to name the shape correctly.
11-15-2020 03:36 PM
not sure i've ever known what an 11 sided figure is called...
11-15-2020 05:22 PM
Heron can say for certain he never heard of an 11 sided coin. (The reason could be that Heron
is usually involved in coins from the 16th, 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries). However, Heron likes
to learn about different numismatic things.
11-15-2020 05:36 PM
15 Nov 2020, evening: Heron thought he would make another search on eBay to see if there
was anything listed for F C U. And discovered a possible answer: Because the "F" is in the
12 oclock position, Heron has probably been 'reading' this incorrectly.
Perhaps the scalloped edge token is U F C... for United Fruit Company?
Nothing shown in Heron's old Rulau catalog. The search for information will continue.