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Seller wasn't being detailed on item description. I might be scammed!? I don't know what to do.

Two weeks ago, I won a bid on a laptop (chromebook to be specific). The seller listed the description as "cracked screen, but works fine". So I assumed that the screen is cracked as in small cracks like cracks you make when u drop your phone. After ordering, the item was shipped later than the estimate date and wasn't answering my messages so I noticed something must be wrong. I received the laptop today and soon to see that the display is not working as in the LCD is broken. Then I sent the seller message saying that the item is not working fine as described and few minutes later he replied, " actually does work fine. the screen is cracked like said in the listing. the keyboard and all the ports work fine. you'd just have to get the screen fixed. So it wasn't false advertisement I SPECIFICALLY said "Cracked Screen" but works fine meaning there is no water damage or internal problems besides the screen being cracked. You could use an hdmi cord nd plug it into another monitor". 

 

First of all, he wasn' specific on "cracked screen". Cracked can mean anything from small cracks to major one that can affect the LCD. And a chromebook is traditionally used directly on a table for work and school not connecting to a monitor. He didn't give any details on description apart from "fine". He didnt say screen need to be fixed . I'm about to be college student who is too broke to afford proper laptop so I opted for chromebook instead.  What should I do next!? 

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Two weeks ago, I won a bid on a laptop (chromebook to be specific). The seller listed the description as "cracked screen, but works fine". So I assumed that the screen is cracked as in small cracks like cracks you make when u drop your phone.

 

This is where you went wrong.  You assumed.  You know what they say about that.

 

After ordering, the item was shipped later than the estimate date and wasn't answering my messages so I noticed something must be wrong. I received the laptop today and soon to see that the display is not working as in the LCD is broken. Then I sent the seller message saying that the item is not working fine as described and few minutes later he replied, " actually does work fine. the screen is cracked like said in the listing. the keyboard and all the ports work fine. you'd just have to get the screen fixed. So it wasn't false advertisement I SPECIFICALLY said "Cracked Screen" but works fine meaning there is no water damage or internal problems besides the screen being cracked. You could use an hdmi cord nd plug it into another monitor". 

 

First of all, he wasn' specific on "cracked screen". Cracked can mean anything from small cracks to major one that can affect the LCD.

 

And this is why you needed to ask questions before buying; especially since you know it can mean anything from small cracks to a major one.

 

And a chromebook is traditionally used directly on a table for work and school not connecting to a monitor. He didn't give any details on description apart from "fine". He didnt say screen need to be fixed .

 

I understand the seller didn't but you needed to ask questions then.  Never buy if you have any questions.  Get answers first to determine if it fits your needs. 

 

I'm about to be college student who is too broke to afford proper laptop so I opted for chromebook instead.  What should I do next!? 

 

I'm not sure why you chose to buy without getting the answers you needed or why you didn't do your buyer's due diligence, but the item is yours.  Get the screen fixed.  Item is as described.  Nothing you can do.  It's yours.  I'm really sorry you didn't ask questions especially since now there is nothing you can do.  Sorry.  If the seller accepts returns, you could return it, but if he doesn't, it is yours.  But you can avoid this in the future by asking questions before buying.  


 

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Two weeks ago, I won a bid on a laptop (chromebook to be specific). The seller listed the description as "cracked screen, but works fine". So I assumed that the screen is cracked as in small cracks like cracks you make when u drop your phone. After ordering, the item was shipped later than the estimate date and wasn't answering my messages so I noticed something must be wrong. I received the laptop today and soon to see that the display is not working as in the LCD is broken. Then I sent the seller message saying that the item is not working fine as described and few minutes later he replied, " actually does work fine. the screen is cracked like said in the listing. the keyboard and all the ports work fine. you'd just have to get the screen fixed. So it wasn't false advertisement I SPECIFICALLY said "Cracked Screen" but works fine meaning there is no water damage or internal problems besides the screen being cracked. You could use an hdmi cord nd plug it into another monitor". 

 

First of all, he wasn' specific on "cracked screen". Cracked can mean anything from small cracks to major one that can affect the LCD. And a chromebook is traditionally used directly on a table for work and school not connecting to a monitor. He didn't give any details on description apart from "fine". He didnt say screen need to be fixed . I'm about to be college student who is too broke to afford proper laptop so I opted for chromebook instead.  What should I do next!? 


Is “cracked screen, but works fine” a direct quote from the listing?  I ask as “but works fine” refers to the screen.  Therefore, you should immediately open a case in the resolution center for a return of the item for a full refund (including original shipping) as this item is not as described if the screen does not work.  Do not let your 30-days since receipt of the item pass without filing the case as the eBay Money-Back Guarantee, https://pages.ebay.com/ebay-money-back-guarantee/, has a time limit. 

 

“cracked screen, but works fine” states that the screen “works fine” but has a crack.   In addiiton, “cracked screen, but works fine” states that the computer as a whole works fine — this means, again, that the screen works fine as a computer cannot “work fine” and serve its purpose without a functional screen.  However, if the seller had STATED in the description that the screen does not work and that either you must use an external monitor or replace the screen in order to use the computer then the item IS as described.

 

Assuming that it is not stated in the description that the screen does not work, when you file the case, quote the listing as “cracked screen, but works fine” states very clearly that the screen “works fine”.    Use quotes from the seller’s description in your case.  If the seller did not state that the screen does not work then point that out in your statement.  Be respectful and do not be confrontational.  State the facts from the listing.  Include pictures:  if the seller did not include pictures of the screen then state that and include pictures of the screen, pointing out that the extent of the crack was not pictured or described.  Be clear that based on the statement “cracked screen, but works fine”, especially if the seller did not STATE that (i) the screen did not work and (ii) the laptop could only be used with an external monitor, that you had no reason to believe that the screen did not work.  (Some repetition can be helpful for emphasis.)

 

In the future, you MUST ask questions.  Keep in mind that the seller wants your money.  Many sellers do not provide clear, full details about the items that they sell.  You must ask questions about the condition of items, including ALL aspects of electronics.  For example, when buying any laptop/chromebook, you must ask questions about the functionality of all aspects of the laptop including but not limited to operating system, the presence of or lack of software, function of screen, presence of and amount of RAM, function of battery, presence/condition of and functionality of the power cord, function of internal speakers, function of internal microphone, function of keyboard, presence of and function of USB ports, presence of and function of RJ45 port, functionality of wifi connectivity, etc. as well as the condition of the body of the computer:  confirm information in the listing and obtain information about the workings of the computer — assume nothing and keep all communication with the seller in case you need it as evidence in an item-not-as-described case.  

 

If a seller fails to reply to your questions then do not buy the item.  If a seller blocks you for asking questions then be happy as you will not be cheated by this seller.  Good sellers and the best sellers are always willing to answer questions about their items as they have nothing to hide and they want their buyers to be happy with the items that they purchase.  Good sellers and the best sellers want smooth transactions with fully-informed buyers.  

 

Be proactive:  carefully read item descriptions, ask questions, and read all the seller’s feedback.  This is the best way in which to purchase good items and have smooth transactions.

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@mannguy-3816 wrote:

Two weeks ago, I won a bid on a laptop (chromebook to be specific). The seller listed the description as "cracked screen, but works fine". So I assumed that the screen is cracked as in small cracks like cracks you make when u drop your phone.

 

This is where you went wrong.  You assumed.  You know what they say about that.

 

After ordering, the item was shipped later than the estimate date and wasn't answering my messages so I noticed something must be wrong. I received the laptop today and soon to see that the display is not working as in the LCD is broken. Then I sent the seller message saying that the item is not working fine as described and few minutes later he replied, " actually does work fine. the screen is cracked like said in the listing. the keyboard and all the ports work fine. you'd just have to get the screen fixed. So it wasn't false advertisement I SPECIFICALLY said "Cracked Screen" but works fine meaning there is no water damage or internal problems besides the screen being cracked. You could use an hdmi cord nd plug it into another monitor". 

 

First of all, he wasn' specific on "cracked screen". Cracked can mean anything from small cracks to major one that can affect the LCD.

 

And this is why you needed to ask questions before buying; especially since you know it can mean anything from small cracks to a major one.

 

And a chromebook is traditionally used directly on a table for work and school not connecting to a monitor. He didn't give any details on description apart from "fine". He didnt say screen need to be fixed .

 

I understand the seller didn't but you needed to ask questions then.  Never buy if you have any questions.  Get answers first to determine if it fits your needs. 

 

I'm about to be college student who is too broke to afford proper laptop so I opted for chromebook instead.  What should I do next!? 

 

I'm not sure why you chose to buy without getting the answers you needed or why you didn't do your buyer's due diligence, but the item is yours.  Get the screen fixed.  Item is as described.  Nothing you can do.  It's yours.  I'm really sorry you didn't ask questions especially since now there is nothing you can do.  Sorry.  If the seller accepts returns, you could return it, but if he doesn't, it is yours.  But you can avoid this in the future by asking questions before buying.  


 


I disagree with you.  What a seller does not state is as important as what a seller states.  

 

In this description, “screen cracked, but works fine” is very important as “but works fine” refers to the “cracked” screen.  If the seller did not state that the screen does not work or that in order to use the computer the screen must be replaced or an external monitor must be used then the buyer had not reason to assume that.   “screen cracked, but works fine” states that the computer functions and can be used as intended, including the screen.

 

As stated in my other post, the buyer should have asked questions and should do so in the future.  However, for this item, if the seller did not state in the description that the screen does not work and if the seller only stated “cracked screen, but works fine” then the item is not as described and should be returned to the seller (at the seller’s expense) for a full refund (including original shipping).

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@mannguy-3816 wrote:

 I'm about to be college student who is too broke to afford proper laptop so I opted for chromebook instead.  What should I do next!? 


Once you get your refund, hold onto your money and wait for the Back-to-School sales — direct from maker or reputable store sellers providing full warranty is best.  Buy a new laptop during the back-to-school sales as there will be many low-price options at that time.  Buying a good new laptop is better than buying a questionable used laptop from a seller who does not want to divulge all information about the condition of her/his items.  Be safe rather than sorry as you need the laptop to function properly throughout the year and even years to come.

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anywhere else in the free world, i would assume 'cracked screen, works fine' to mean it is usable WITHOUT a monitor or screen replacement. on ebay, 'works fine' is pretty broad! works fine as a window prop? works fine, except the parts that dont work? NEEDS NEW SCREEN would of been a better description. while you may get opinions in either direction, most would agree listing was misleading or vague. i tend to think purposely vague but seller may of truely meant it as such. if it were me, i would first see if it does indeed work with a monitor. then i would ask to return on my dime. if no, i would roll the dice on a snad and hope he would offer 'some' money towards the screen replacement.  check their feedback and see if this is typical, if he is known to do this, skip past my first two and go directly to snad!

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@mannguy-3816 wrote:

I received the laptop today and soon to see that the display is not working as in the LCD is broken. Then I sent the seller message saying that the item is not working fine as described and few minutes later he replied, " actually does work fine. the screen is cracked like said in the listing. the keyboard and all the ports work fine. you'd just have to get the screen fixed. So it wasn't false advertisement I SPECIFICALLY said "Cracked Screen" but works fine meaning there is no water damage or internal problems besides the screen being cracked. You could use an hdmi cord nd plug it into another monitor". 

 

He didn't give any details on description apart from "fine". He didnt say screen need to be fixed


When you file the item-not-as-described case, include the statements of the seller (from her/his email).  The seller included her/his after-sale-and-after-receipt-of-item interpretation of “cracked screen”, none of which was included in the item description based on your statements.  The seller did not state that ”’Cracked Screen’ but works fine mean[s] there is no water damage or internal problems besides the screen being cracked.” in the listing.

 

In addition, if the seller did not state in the listing that the screen needs to be fixed/replaced, make sure that you clearly state that in the case.  If the screen needs to be replaced then the seller should have disclosed this information in the description.

 

Your purchase of the item was based on the description that the seller provided in the listing.  The seller cannot change or interpret that description after you have received an item which does not match the description.  The seller double-talks when she/he states that there are “no internal problems besides the screen being cracked” as the screen not working IS an internal problem, and one does not expect to “use an hdmi cord [a]nd plug it into another monitor” when one purchases a laptop UNLESS one is specifically told that the screen does not work.  As many a phone/laptop user knows, a cracked screen can be working/functional:  a cracked screen is not the same as a broken/nonworking screen.

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Since it does not work fine, it is not as described.  Open a Not as Described case, stating that it does not work.  The seller will have to pay for return shipping and give you a full refund after you send it back.  

 

Do not alter its condition in any way, or it will not be eligible for the money back guarantee. 

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"As many a phone/laptop user knows, a cracked screen can be working/functional: a cracked screen is not the same as a broken/nonworking screen."

^^^^^^^
This!!!
--Please don't shoot the messenger--
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@kdkk123 wrote:
"As many a phone/laptop user knows, a cracked screen can be working/functional: a cracked screen is not the same as a broken/nonworking screen."

^^^^^^^
This!!!

I was going to vehemently disagree, but I think I found the listing in question.  It was listed as For Parts / Not Working; plus the description is more than enough to cover the seller's butt, especially on a $15 plus shipping laptop...  And to top it off, Internal Cracked Screen is in the title.

 

Acer chromebook 14 CB3-431

Internal Cracked Screen
Everything besides the screen works perfectly
Some signs of use

 

I was able to power wash it by using an HDMI chord so it is like new.  (I think power wash was an auto correct error on the seller's part)

Comes with power adapter

 

So the seller did not leave out anything important in the description and selected the correct condition, and the OP would have a good chance of losing a dispute, since the description can not be any clearer.

 

Now, if the OP just connects to a TV or monitor via HDMI, and there ends up being anything else not working right (DVD drive won't record or play, keyboard has issues, one or more USB ports is kaput, etc), then they would have a case, since the listing says Everything besides the screen works perfectly.

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

-- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #80
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@nowthatsjustducky wrote:

I was able to power wash it by using an HDMI chord so it is like new.  (I think power wash was an auto correct error on the seller's part)


A factory reset on a Chrome device is called a powerwash.

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Well that's dumb.  They should have just called it something like "Reset" or "Factory Reset."

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

-- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #80
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@nowthatsjustducky wrote:

@kdkk123 wrote:
"As many a phone/laptop user knows, a cracked screen can be working/functional: a cracked screen is not the same as a broken/nonworking screen."

^^^^^^^
This!!!

I was going to vehemently disagree, but I think I found the listing in question.  It was listed as For Parts / Not Working; plus the description is more than enough to cover the seller's butt, especially on a $15 plus shipping laptop...  And to top it off, Internal Cracked Screen is in the title.

 

Acer chromebook 14 CB3-431

Internal Cracked Screen
Everything besides the screen works perfectly
Some signs of use

 

I was able to power wash it by using an HDMI chord so it is like new.  (I think power wash was an auto correct error on the seller's part)

Comes with power adapter

 

So the seller did not leave out anything important in the description and selected the correct condition, and the OP would have a good chance of losing a dispute, since the description can not be any clearer.

 

Now, if the OP just connects to a TV or monitor via HDMI, and there ends up being anything else not working right (DVD drive won't record or play, keyboard has issues, one or more USB ports is kaput, etc), then they would have a case, since the listing says Everything besides the screen works perfectly.


 

The listing that you mention does not contain the statement quoted by the OP, “cracked screen, but works fine”.

 

Are you saying that you believe that someone buying a computer for college would buy one listed as “For Parts/Not Working”???

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@smabrouk wrote:

@nowthatsjustducky wrote:

@kdkk123 wrote:
"As many a phone/laptop user knows, a cracked screen can be working/functional: a cracked screen is not the same as a broken/nonworking screen."

^^^^^^^
This!!!

I was going to vehemently disagree, but I think I found the listing in question.  It was listed as For Parts / Not Working; plus the description is more than enough to cover the seller's butt, especially on a $15 plus shipping laptop...  And to top it off, Internal Cracked Screen is in the title.

 

Acer chromebook 14 CB3-431

Internal Cracked Screen
Everything besides the screen works perfectly
Some signs of use

 

I was able to power wash it by using an HDMI chord so it is like new.  (I think power wash was an auto correct error on the seller's part)

Comes with power adapter

 

So the seller did not leave out anything important in the description and selected the correct condition, and the OP would have a good chance of losing a dispute, since the description can not be any clearer.

 

Now, if the OP just connects to a TV or monitor via HDMI, and there ends up being anything else not working right (DVD drive won't record or play, keyboard has issues, one or more USB ports is kaput, etc), then they would have a case, since the listing says Everything besides the screen works perfectly.


 

The listing that you mention does not contain the statement quoted by the OP, “cracked screen, but works fine”.

 

Are you saying that you believe that someone buying a computer for college would buy one listed as “For Parts/Not Working”???


Unintentionally, yes. A lot of buyers see the low price and fail to notice the item condition field. Its reasonable to think that IF this is the right laptop, the OP overlooked the item condition field.



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@smabrouk wrote:

The listing that you mention does not contain the statement quoted by the OP, “cracked screen, but works fine”.


Internal Cracked Screen
Everything besides the screen works perfectly

 

That right there sounds like "cracked screen, but works fine," just paraphrased.  The OP was not likely quoting verbatim, just the jist of what the listing said.

 

Now if the OP would come back and give us a link to the listing, we could know for sure if I found the right one.

 

 

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

-- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #80
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