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Price gouging in shipping fees

It seems the sellers have found a loop hole in price gouging, they are listing the item at regular price, but charging extreme prices for shipping. It doesn't cost $20-35.00 to ship a 32oz bottle of rubbing alcohol. EBay needs to monitor these price gougers better, I will report every single one I see! 

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Yes! I know what you mean. It has gotten way beyond unreasonable. I use to shop eBay all the time. Quit. When something weighs less than a lb and they want 25.00 or more to ship that is robbery. They lost a valuable customer. Turning these cheats in doesn’t do a darn thing. Sooner or later eBay will be obsolete, they just haven’t gotten the message as of yet. I’m soooo ticked!!!

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I felt like responding because this is also an issue for sellers. Ebay started charging a percentage fee on shipping costs and taxes. I get that people used to use shipping to cover selling fees. But here is the thing, and in your case, seems outrageous. 

In a case of say, a dress and it can't fit in a small box because who wans a crumped dress? The seller may choose to do flat rate shipping but it would require a large flat rate shipping box, or one of those game boxes, and if you look at USPS pricing, flat rate for those size boxes are more than the idk 5-8 bucks for a tiny box. And lets face it, if you look at a "small" flat rate box, I might fit a pair of sunglasses in it. 

So, the seller has two options, list an item at a low price and bump up shipping to cover the cost of fees after the cut ebay takes (there is a discount for printing labels from PP or Ebay) or build it into the item. However, I have found if I offer free shipping, depending on who is buying my item I could be out a LOT of money on shipping. I end up losing money on my actual item! As I have no way of knowing who will buy my item. If I let the buyer pay based on their location, it can still cut into my profits because I don't know how much shipping to build into the price of my item to cover the selling fees Ebay imposes on the transaction. 

So I have found it useful to just do this: I charge a flat rate priority shipping on almost all items except for a select few. My flat rate shipping is, the same across the board, $15. Period. Unless it's a teeny item an I use a small box or envelope I will drop it to $11. Sometimes if the item needs a big box, I'll charge up to $20. This is because, yes, I am charged and charged again, and again on Paypal, and I have to. I consider my shipping to include shipping and handling and that extra basically applies to the fact I order priority boxes, priority has insurance built in, I fold the items, I wrap the items, I print the labels, I tape the labels and boxes and I even write thank you notes. Usually, I end up making $1 or 2$ profit by charging these fees ONLY because I use Paypal to print my labels and get a discount. So, you see, even to just break even, sometimes we have to charge a high shipping cost. But I would not put an item for sale for one cent and charge 100 for shipping. I would buy from them if I wanted the item, and it would a good price but I don't do that. I start my auctions at a price I am willing to take, so that I don't have to use a reserve, or my buy it now items are just that, the price I want for the item and I might take a few bucks less. I don't start auctions at low prices. 

I don't find it that excessive. I use another platform that charges buyers almost 8 dollars shipping on every item that I don't have to pay for, and they use Priority shipping. Some items are earrings, still 8 dollars flat rate on every item, period. So I would look at what shipping they offered, was a regular ground, parcel, or Priority then think...how big is this item? How big of a box will they need? And look at USPS flat rates, they range and some up to the $20 range. 

 

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It’s inappropriate to inflate shipping costs for any reason. There’s a right way of covering the cost of shipping supplies and time spent—use the handling fee option. Then buyers will at least know why the shipping is higher than they’d expect. 

As for eBay charging a percentage of the shipping charge, it is a bitter pill, but you have to remember that eBay offers a service that saves buyers and sellers money—they sell discounted shipping labels for USPS, FedEx and UPS. These discounts help keep shipping costs down, which increases the odds of a buyer making the purchase, while lowering the final value on which eBay charges  the final value fee. eBay is getting a volume discount and passing it on to sellers, who can either pass the discount on to sellers, or can charge sellers the retail rate and pocket the difference. I find the latter distasteful because, again, no one should be profiting from shipping charges. Be that as it may, eBay has an accounting nightmare for providing this service. An oversimplified explanation is that eBay likely receipts the funds collected from sellers for shipping labels into a pass-thru liability account, and is then charged by the shippers, whom eBay pays, using the same pass-thru account. This account must be reconciled, and given the hundreds of thousands of labels sold each day, and the number of accounting employees required to manage the shipping accounts, the cost to eBay is likely enormous. So of course they’re going to recoup that, and they’ve chosen to do so by charging a commission on the final value fee. 

If sellers aren’t taking advantage of this service, they’re shooting themselves in the foot. The discounted shipping label reduces the amount of the final value fee, and it allows sellers to ask a higher price when they’re able to offer lower shipping charges, and still attract buyers. It also saves sellers a lot of time, as they can schedule a pickup instead of having to trot packages to the shipper and stand in line waiting to buy a retail shipping label, and then have to enter the tracking number on eBay for each item.

 

As stated before, I don’t believe in paying for a discounted label and charging retail shipping. I wouldn’t want it done to me, and I won’t do it to someone else. At the end of the day, a buyer’s trust is worth more to me than his money—as is my integrity. The honest way of recouping some of what eBay/PayPal charges sellers is not to inflate shipping, but to add a handling charge OR simply build the added fees into the asking price. 

That said, when I’ve encountered absurd shipping charges as a buyer, I go ahead and message the seller to ask if they can offer the eBay discounted rate on a cheaper service. Most of them have been very gracious about doing so. Usually, I’ve sold the same type of item and know what it cost me to ship it, and I’m not shy about letting the seller know. If they’re trying to scam buyers, they just won’t reply. Then by all means, report them. But often it’s due to human error, and if you really want the item, asking the buyer about changing the shipper, the shipping method or charging you the shipping discount, can really pay off. 

 

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Let this thread die - please April 2020

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Hi everyone,

 

Due to the age of this thread, it has been closed to further replies. Please feel free to start a new thread if you wish to continue to discuss this topic.

 

Thank you for understanding.

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