Payment details before bidding on auction

[wil_483592]

Went to bid on an auction this morning and as I normally do putting in my bid in the last few seconds and when I clicked the bid button it went to the confirm payment details page. This is the first I've ever seen on an auction. Is this normal. I have no unpaid in my history. 

[ebooksdiva]

This is a new process eBay is rolling out and testing with buyers who bid or make offers, you are obviously in the test list.

It was implemented to stop unpaid items. That doesn't mean you have done this. But then you have no buying history in this profile.

[wil_483592]

This is not very wise. Sniping will be cut down by quite a bit which will loose them and sellers alot of money. Bid on something yesterday and it didn't do this.  Thanks for your answer. 

[ebooksdiva]

Sellers have the option to require buyers to provide a method of payment, not all sellers use that requirement.

[ittybitnot]

@wil_483592 

eBay dropped the following two preferences on all seller accounts with the default set to YES...with a little popup that says something in order of 'if they change it to NO, there is a chance for increased non-paying bidders or buyers'.   The preference is meaningless unless eBay forces the BUYER ID into the program. 

Unfortunately, they did not mention the other consequences of getting less offers, less bids, and less sales in general.  There is no more combined shipping for a discounted price.  Buyers are required to pay the full shipping on each auction win or offer accepted.  Sellers pay fees on the increased amount as well.  

Buyers can no longer use ApplePay, Google Pay, spendable funds, seller coupons or promotions, eBay coupons, PayPal Pay in 4, or PayPal credit.  

https://www.ebay.com/bmgt/buyerrequirements

Buyer Payment Requirements

*Require buyers to provide a payment method before they place a bid.

*Require buyers to provide a payment method before they make an offer.

Seems like eBay found a new revenue stream, instead of just dispensing with those that don't pay. 

[ga_open_box_llc]

This option had been automatically turned on my account for auctions and didn't know it until about a week ago. The seller has to change thier settings and may not know or decided to keep the setting on due to frequent non paying buyers.

[12345jamesstamps]

I have won multiple auctions in the past....just 2 weeks ago. Now, I am wondering if I will do any auctions since we cannot ask for a combine shipping total before purchase. Sometimes, I will win an auction one day and then more the next day. What a nightmare for a seller. Sometimes...change is not good. 

I don't know if I will list auctions any more due to this as well.

[wil_483592]

As a seller and buyer I agree. Just think about all the lost revenue from last minute snipers though. I imagine that would be quite a bit of money throughout jut one day. My intended bid was 109$ more than the final bid that it sold for. 

[wil_483592]

Any way to just set it to always remember payment and shipping method or is it every time I bid?

[detrix440]

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@ittybitnot wrote:

@wil_483592

Unfortunately, they did not mention the other consequences of getting less offers, less bids, and less sales in general.  There is no more combined shipping for a discounted price.  Buyers are required to pay the full shipping on each auction win or offer accepted.  Sellers pay fees on the increased amount as well. 

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HAH. This was the answer I was looking for... I apparently got put into the test tube yesterday for this new policy.

I will say, after i entered my payment info for an auction i went for last night, I deleted the payment method from my profile. Few hours later I got a message saying the payment failed to process on the auction I did win.

I paid for the item earlier today, seemingly no issues.

This is... troublesome. I get why they're testing it and folks wanted it, but if shipping can't be combined, it's going to be pointless to buy on here anymore other than for very specific items.

[steve_stuff]

We asked this question on a post on the buyers board and still waiting for a reply, so asking same here -

As we don't take less for our items the offer part doesn't affect us - but with the bid one we have a question

Has anybody filled out the 'provide a payment method before they place a bid' deal for seller 'A', then tried to make a bid with seller B' to see if asked for what would be the same info twice?

Maybe it's asked for once and the info is then kept on file.

[ittybitnot]

Maybe it's asked for once and the info is then kept on file.

@steve_stuff 

Based on discussion in other ecommerce forums, the payment choice entered before bidding is set as a default.  The buyer will not be reminded again, if "Seller B" also requires payment info upfront by default.  A buyer that bids (wins) multiple listings will find out when they end and they are immediately charged for each individually. 

I cannot say this is so from personal experience, since I refuse to participate as a buyer enrolled in this forced punishment camp. 

[steve_stuff]

OK and WOW, you also answered the second part of my question, the part I forgot to ask. So you think the ended and won auction will be instantly auto paid by ebay.

We also think if ebay does this right - as in only making people who don't pay or cancel six 'wins' after winning the seventh one cheaper - do this and not the buyers/bidders who pay, it will be a good thing.

[campanaelia]

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@steve_stuff wrote:
We also think if ebay does this right - as in only making people who don't pay or cancel six 'wins' after winning the seventh one cheaper - do this and not the buyers/bidders who pay, it will be a good thing.

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Applying this to buyers who cancelled 6 wins would also be unfair since sellers use the excuse "Buyer requested to cancel" all the time to avoid their own defects.

[followthedragon92]

I am having this problem as well. I have no unpaid items. I was intending on bidding on multiple different items from the same seller tonite, but I refuse to pay separate shipping for each individual item that I buy. If I have to prepay, there is no way to do combined shipping, and I'm not spending extra money for every single item i buy. That is insane. Ebay needs to quit messing with things that work fine. I'm getting so sick of this.