05-10-2024 12:02 PM
eBay won't do anything about it.
Getting to where you can't search anything.
eBay item number 156200952866
Come on eBay, something's gotta give
05-10-2024 12:51 PM
Getting to where you can't search anything.
@redlinear
I know that ID clogs up plenty of other categories. The other day, every three to five listings on a page in a "jewelry" search was car parts by that guy. It was so annoying I looked to see what was going on, and reported a few for key word stuffing the item specifics. eBay thinks it is ok to do, as "report this item" is a bot activity/action now. The guy is still doing it and all is well listing every car part known to man+ Bots apparently don't check the IS section. The old school was to just put your thousands of tags/words in white on white html...LOL.
05-10-2024 02:16 PM
eBay made that rod for their own back.
It's an easy fix for eBay. Simply go back to a straight forward title search. Buyers will then, at last, be able to find what they are looking for.
05-10-2024 02:46 PM
@bennotbill wrote:eBay made that rod for their own back.
It's an easy fix for eBay. Simply go back to a straight forward title search. Buyers will then, at last, be able to find what they are looking for.
Your suggested remedy is exactly right, and too easy.
They could even leave Item Specifics, but shorten each field to 15 or 20 characters.
I like your idea best though!
05-10-2024 02:49 PM
@ittybitnot wrote:Getting to where you can't search anything.
@redlinear
I know that ID clogs up plenty of other categories. The other day, every three to five listings on a page in a "jewelry" search was car parts by that guy. It was so annoying I looked to see what was going on, and reported a few for key word stuffing the item specifics. eBay thinks it is ok to do, as "report this item" is a bot activity/action now. The guy is still doing it and all is well listing every car part known to man+ Bots apparently don't check the IS section. The old school was to just put your thousands of tags/words in white on white html...LOL.
The search I ran turned up 1300 used results. On the 1st page, only a few were even remotely related.
Every item I opened had what looked like a thousand different words and number spammed in Item Specifics.
Probably 20 different sellers before I stopped looking.
It's getting way out of hand.
05-10-2024 03:12 PM
Sellers that include a laundry list of keywords that have nothing to do with their item are easy to deal with. No need to wait for eBay to take action.
For automotive listings, some sellers include a long list of makes, models and years so their items turn up in many searches. Just pick a make, model or year that has absolutely nothing to do with your search from that list, and exclude that keyword. Since keyword spammers are lazy, they quite often reuse the same list and copy from other spammers. Any listing with that keyword in the item specifics will be excluded from your results, including any listing by that item-specific spamming seller.
The longer the spam keyword list, the easier it is to exclude those items.
09-18-2024 06:42 AM
< exclude that [unrelated] keyword >
It might occur to someone – as it did me – that this would exclude listings containing that unrelated keyword, even listings for the item actually searched for, if it contains that unrelated keyword. JMO, it is preferable to exclude even positive hits, on the overriding principle that we don't want to do business with any seller who engages in spamming, even if that seller happens to be selling what we want.
09-18-2024 07:32 AM
it is preferable to exclude even positive hits, on the overriding principle that we don't want to do business with any seller who engages in spamming, even if that seller happens to be selling what we want.
Agreed. A spam blocker that blocks all spam will block spam from someone selling something you may actually want to buy -- because it is spam. If you want to go through all the spam on the off chance that something you want might be among all the spam ("There's gotta be a pony in here somewhere!"), you always have the option of turning off the spam blocker or not blocking spam at all.
I often find it preferable, when searching for something that is hard to find, to search in more than one way.
First, a very targeted search that is unlikely to return any false positives to quickly see if there is something new since the last time I searched. This can actually be automated and can generate a message when something is found -- if the item is rare enough or the search targeted enough to not be overwhelming.
If nothing turns up in that first search, then that can be followed with a search that casts a wider net -- one that does not block quite as much spam, and that is not limited to as narrow a category as the first search. The second search may return some items that the first search missed, but may also turn up items that meet the looser search criteria that are not actually of interest, and may require more time to weed through the results. This wider search can be done less often than the first search, but is often much more time consuming. The wider search may turn up items where the seller has listed in the wrong category, or has left out crucial keywords or item-specifics; items that are harder-to-find.
Another option is to browse an entire category for newly listed items, or to browse the listings of sellers selling similar items. This works best if one has a large list of similar kinds of items of interest, rather than just one specific item being sought.
It can be easy to weed out false positives. It can be easy to prevent false negatives from being weeded out. It is often difficult to do both effectively at the same time, however.
09-18-2024 07:49 AM
LOL at "There's gotta be a pony in here somewhere!" 😀 A classic.
09-18-2024 08:09 AM
"There's gotta be a pony in here somewhere!"
For some reason that punchline immediately sprang to mind when I thought about turning off a spam filter. Ah, optimism.
09-18-2024 08:16 AM
There are sellers who come to Ebay from sites where keyword spamming is absolutely necessary and common practice.
There are sellers who are sucked in by courses and consultants. These folks often include how to keyword spam in order to pad out their offerings and make them appear to be worth the money.
Usually the items being offered are common enough and the interest low enough that it does not cost Ebay much in lost sales. The same cannot be said for other sellers whose already tough to sell items are masked by all of this crap.
The sellers who keyword spam are often, though not always transients who will not succeed on Ebay.
My sympathy for everyone who sells mass market items, or items which appeal to sellers who own nothing and live out of their suppliers inventory. They have to contend with this type of competitor.
09-18-2024 08:59 AM
Pretty sure it was you that helped me by making that suggestion, now I understand how/why it works.
Thank you!
09-18-2024 10:14 AM
Pretty sure it was you that helped me by making that suggestion, now I understand how/why it works.
Thank you!
You are very welcome!
The thought of all those keyword spamming sellers' listings being filtered out of searches due to their own spam keywords makes me smile.