I will NEVER shop EBAY again, and will NOT recommend even to my worst enemies

[ladybella418]

I am out of the money and never received my purchases! I've been tracking my purchases, which didn't arrive to USPS. I got a message in my account "The listing you're interested in is no longer available. I've tried, numerous times to contact someone to refund my money. Obviously, the seller bailed, at least, that's the impression I got. When I go on ebay to locate help, I get the runaround their website and it comes up with, no record of sale, etc. Not to mention no way to get InTouch with the seller. THIS IS A TOTAL SHAM/RIPPOFF! I want the items, or give me back the money I spent! Quit giving me the runaround. I'm on a very small limited income, nothing else! For sure I will NEVER deal with ebay again. I click EVERY link to try to solve this problem, only to get another link sending me right back to the beginning, with no positive results! GIVE me back my Money! Now ebay, I thought you were committed to take care of these problems. Your no better then the Seller who took my money and bailed out!

[this*old*attic]

@ladybella418 

Wait. It’s only 1.) 3 days overdue and 2.) seller hasn’t responded back?

I’d be on alert myself but this isn’t a huge time frame in the middle of a pandemic and people’s personal challenges. I’m talking about seller response here, not a properly filed INR.

At what point did you get the Ebay message in this timeline?

[this*old*attic]

@oldwestgold 

Um, no it isn’t.

There’s no limit to the number of IDs a single member can have, and many sellers use posting IDs to protect their business from mischief by someone who didn’t like a post.

The only violation is creating IDs to get around any type of Ebay disciplinary action.

[jenandrews02]

Actually the FCC is in charge which is the Federal Government. Neither the phone company or FCC makes money from sales generated over phone lines. You aren’t comparing like entities.

[jenandrews02]

Blaming the buyer again.

[myangelandmyprincess]

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@jenandrews02 wrote:

Actually the FCC is in charge which is the Federal Government. Neither the phone company or FCC makes money from sales generated over phone lines. You aren’t comparing like entities.

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Then why did I choose and pay a particular phone company to have a phone line with ?   

I'll agree this comparison isn't a great one but I am pretty sure phone companies aren't working for free.  

[7606dennis]

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@jenandrews02 wrote:

Actually the FCC is in charge which is the Federal Government. Neither the phone company or FCC makes money from sales generated over phone lines. You aren’t comparing like entities.

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So you're saying that the phone company isn't making anything off the use of their equipment and that the Federal Government is the one that makes the money.  Interesting!  I wonder why the phone company has employees to maintain the equipment then.  Maybe those are government employees and any phone bill is merely a tax.  Hummm!  

[jenandrews02]

The comparison doesn’t work.  We could dig deeper into the debate but there aren’t enough similarities in the business models to make it reasonable.

[this*old*attic]

@oldwestgold 

Disruption - sowing discord, fanning flames by posting as multiple people

Avoid detection - pretending to be someone else, trying to circumvent an EBay punishment

Posting IDs have been around since the very beginning are are totally allowed.

Ask a board moderator:

@Anonymous 

[this*old*attic]

@jenandrews02 

Im not accusing her of axe murder, I’m explaining that a properly filed complaint sets off an immediate series of events.

If nothing is truly happening, she should double check her efforts.

[7606dennis]

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@jenandrews02 wrote:

The comparison doesn’t work.  We could dig deeper into the debate but there aren’t enough similarities in the business models to make it reasonable.

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Basically you are saying that eBay should be held responsible for unscrupulous sellers engaged in criminal activity on eBay's platform although it is against eBay policy and UA for them to do so.  My point is that the same should apply to the telephone company when criminals use that company's services to engage in criminal activity even though it is against the phone company's policy to do so.  I'm not seeing how one company would be at fault and the other wouldn't. 

[jenandrews02]

The government is holding the providers responsible and are taking legal action.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/ftc-warns-phone-companies-not-to-help-robo...

So the federal government should fo the same for eBay if all things are equal, right? 

[inhawaii]

I didn't read this whole thread but the same thing happened to me twice. Unfortunately i just had to "wait it out" but did get my money back.

File a "item not received" case. You'll have to wait X amount of days. 

After another X amount of days ebay will step in.

If the seller does not respond and can't prove delivery, you will win the case and be refunded. 

Hang in there.  Good luck and stay safe!

[7606dennis]

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@jenandrews02 wrote:

The government is holding the providers responsible and are taking legal action.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/ftc-warns-phone-companies-not-to-help-robo...

So the federal government should fo the same for eBay if all things are equal, right? 

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The problem is that the criminal element's adaption to the use of modern technology has out distanced the phone company's ability to block them.  Many legitimate companies and even the VA and other government agencies use robo calls to confirm appointments and other things.  Even blocking technology doesn't appear to work.

In addition, criminals are able to imitate legitimate numbers and those no longer in service.  There doesn't seem to be much that can be done by the phone company that can currently be done that they aren't trying.   Just as eBay is trying fight the scam artists but it seems that they are, thus far, not making much headway.

Yes the federal authorities should treat both businesses the same.  However, can they blame those businesses for being victims of criminals that they themselves seem to be unable stop.  After all, look at the warnings that the Social Security Administration and IRS have posted about known scams related to their agencies, not to mention the many others.  Frankly, warning consumers to be wary seems to be about the only thing that is even slightly effective.

Alas!  Criminals have taken to the information age with gusto.

[jenandrews02]

Then there’s the solution everyone’s been asking for. The Federal Government should treat eBay like they do the phone VoIP companies. Prosecute them for enabling the scammers. Then maybe eBay will be more proactive in dealing with these issues. Perfect solution actually.

The problem with this board is the arrogance of the some of the posts telling buyers it’s their fault they got scammed. Or better yet, the unofficial lists and guides to not getting scammed. Also, there are those of you that think eBay doesn’t have the ability to do anything about it. They have the technology but won’t do anything because they are making money from all sales, even the fraudulent ones.

Signing off now. Back to spending my money and time places where I actually receive the items I’ve purchased.

[myangelandmyprincess]

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@jenandrews02 wrote:

Then there’s the solution everyone’s been asking for. The Federal Government should treat eBay like they do the phone VoIP companies. Prosecute them for enabling the scammers. Then maybe eBay will be more proactive in dealing with these issues. Perfect solution actually.

The problem with this board is the arrogance of the some of the posts telling buyers it’s their fault they got scammed. Or better yet, the unofficial lists and guides to not getting scammed. Also, there are those of you that think eBay doesn’t have the ability to do anything about it. They have the technology but won’t do anything because they are making money from all sales, even the fraudulent ones.

Signing off now. Back to spending my money and time places where I actually receive the items I’ve purchased.

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People aren't saying it's the buyers fault they for scammed but we do give directions on how to be more careful to prevent it in the future and how to handle it when it happens.  

There is technology that eBay has that can tell them a seller is going to ship from a different location before the seller even does it!?  What technology is this.  Seems scary for eBay to know what I'm going to do before I do it.   In all seriousness I asked how eBay could stop it before a seller violated the policy and buyers were already taken by it you didn't provide any information on how eBay could prevent it. And I honestly don't know how they could either