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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

How do I get a manager, or above, to contact me regarding the order from hell? On Feb 24th, I won an auction for an ereader and paid via Amex.  On March 5th the USPS said the package was delivered but what showed up in my mailbox was the label.  No box, just the label with a note from the USPS that said the item was damaged and without contents.  The item being the box, which wasn't delivered. So, I started this painful journey of trying to get a refund via the eBay guarantee. I provided a photo of the label, which clearly shows no box was delivered, and the note from the USPS, four times to eBay. I also have a letter from the USPS that apologizing for the issue. (I may get $50 from the USPS but I paid $170 for the item.) On eBay's website, the tracking information clearly shows the package was "damaged" and “USPS in possession of item".  I submitted a claim. Denied.  I appeal the decission. Denied. I've talked to eBay's customer service at least a dozen times.  They keep insisting that I received the item. 

 

So, the seller, who is just as frustrated as I am,  agreed to refund the money.  He suggested that, if eBay says it was delivered and the USPS said it was damaged, request a refund from me indicating it was damaged. I try. Small problem The website won't let me no matter which option I select.  Once again, I call eBay's customer service.  This is where this issue goes from painful to unbelievable.  They tell me they can't do anything since I have a case open with PayPal.  Thinking that I may have got it wrong, and I did run it through my PayPal account, I check.  Nope, no activity since December.  As I stated above, it went through my Amex.  Another phone call to eBay's customer service.  Again, they asked me to submit all the paperwork, which I did (I’m getting good at doing this.)  The agent told me I would receive a refund within 72 hours.  I did not.  Another phone call to eBay's customer service (I should drop the service/support because all they do is spread the blame or give me some B$ reply to get me off the phone).   Again, they ask me to submit the documentation that proves it wasn't delivered. I do.  The response; denied.  They say that it shows that it was delivered.  No one ever mentions the documented "arrived damaged" and "in the USPS possession" lines.  So the seller, who sees all of the proof and wants to give me my money back, and I go another route.  Since eBay and USPS say it was delivered (damaged, but delivered), go into the order and ask for a refund.  I do that but... only problem is, the website doesn't allow me that option.  Another call to eBay's cust. support.  This is where it gets comical.  I explain everything to the agent and ask why I can't select the return option.  He tells me, "you told us you never received the item so why could return it?"  Stunned, I asked;  so you agree that I never received it.  If that's the case then please issue me a refund via eBay's guarantee.  His reply?  Can't do that, it says here that it was delivered.... Okay, so now you’re telling me it was delivered. Correct?  Yes.  Since it was delivered the only other resolution is returning a damage item.  His reply?  Nope. you said it was never delivered.   After ten minutes of this Abbott and Castello routine I caved and ask to speak to a supervisor or manager. He tells me someone will be in touch within 72 hours.  Sound familiar?  I do not expect that anyone will call.

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

Sorry for being long-winded and venting above (it was therapeutic, frustrating, but therapeutic)  My question is; how can I get a hold of someone with common sense?  I do not blame the agents.  They’re just reading from what the script tells them to do.  I just want to talk to someone who can see the insanity of this and resolve it.

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

call the police or FBI

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Sorry for all this, but throughout all the info, there is no mention of insurance being purchased. Technically speaking as far as eBay is concerned, item was delivered. Case closed, period. Have you gone to your USPS to seek compensation? What do they say? As far as USPS goes, they will grant refund to the shipper, provided insurance was purchased. If no insurance, then really there is no compensation due.

 

The one at fault is USPS. The shipper could come up and offer a refund, but why should he? Assumingly he packaged and shipped the goods in good faith, why should he take the hit for the USPS fault. In a perfect world, maybe seller/buyer could split the damage, but again, should this be the proper way. As buyer, you had the option to ask and request insurance, but choose not to do it. 

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you filed an item not received case: Delivery confirmation shows you got an item:

You received an item (label) which shows damaged and of course not as described.

So you need to file an" item not as described" with your payment method after the case closes on eBay.

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

Go to your credit card co. and do a charge back. With the proof you have there shouldn't be an issue. As to eBay CS, "you can't fix stupid".

 


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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

@bspank 

 

I didn't get through all that, but in the future:

 

Go to the resolution center below and select, the item doesn't match the description.
The seller will have 3 days to accept the return and pay return shipping or refund without returning.
If they don't, return to the case on day 4 and ask Ebay to step in.

Have a great day.
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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

1. Try to use eBay live chat over eBay callback, be courteous and stick to the facts, and save your chat logs for evidence. EBay reps have really gone down hill lately and some are incredibly rude with no concept of reality or law.

 

2. If the seller won't help you out, since it's a shipping issue and only the seller can communicate with the shipper, try to file a dispute with your credit card company. Give them all the evidence and let your credit card company deal with them. You have a lot more legal protection there.

 

 

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

Stop dealing with ebay's helpful & knowledgeable customer service reps.

Try opening a item Not as described case with ebay's fabulous money back guarantee & just return everything you actually received.

What you received was significantly different from the item you purchased.

 

Or

File a Amex chargeback

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

you will never talk to anyone of a high-level position at eBay support. It's located in places like Columbia and Philippines where the people are literally living on less than $2 USD a day. Great people and countries, but no high level ebay people involved with support for sellers.

And if even you did find a  high level person to talk to, they would be ripping off you as well, if you are a seller, that's what ebay does... the let the buyers rip off the sellers, so the sellers keep coming ... when buyers quit, there  another sucker born every minute and another one appears

amazon 125 billion last year.. with Price earnings ratio 74%
eBay 10 billion last year.. with Price earnings ratio 16%

ebay will be a second tier eCommerce company soon

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

If USPS tore the package open, it might be sitting in their unclaimed property room. The seller will need to submit a search to the USPS, you can't.

Whenever I ship something now, I tape my name and address to the item itself before packing it, although that's no guarantee.

What ticks me off is that I paid them to deliver a package, they failed to do so, but won't even refund the postage.

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

I put a duplicate second shipping label on the inner bag, LOL.

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

There are good and bad sellers, good and bad buyers, but not ebay reps.

 

I've never met any ebay rep with a decent heart, many are maliciously rude immature people who think they know everything and deserve a million dollars and can solve the worlds problems when in reality they don't have a clue about how the world,economy, or commerce works.

 

There is a reason they are paid $2 an hour, way too much in my opinion.

 

Ebay has a 10% fee then PayPal double dips another 10% and ebay then dips again with a PayPal fee. They are making money well with all the transactions.

 

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.


@klm5660 wrote:

There is a reason they are paid $2 an hour, way too much in my opinion.

 

Ebay has a 10% fee then PayPal double dips another 10% and ebay then dips again with a PayPal fee. They are making money well with all the transactions.


With your in-depth ignorance of eBay and PayPal fees, you should pay eBay and PayPal $2 an hour instead.

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

AMEX has very good buyer protection.  Try going through them.  They helped me when Ebay CS was useless.

 

https://www.americanexpress.com/en-us/credit-cards/credit-intel/purchase-protection/

 

Ebay CS people are only there as entertainment.  Someone to talk to when you're bored.  They promise but never deliver.  

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How do I get someone with reason in ebay's customer service.

It isn't that eBay customer service "lacks reason". It is that they are essentially sweat shop labor in third world countries that have more incentive to persuade you to hang up in frustration than to help solve your problems. 

When call center employees are actually good at their jobs this increases the demand of their quotas and makes it more likely they will be fired, that way eBay can re-hire them at another call center and get a senior level support representative at a starting wage.

The company is evil all the way around.

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