03-25-2019 05:32 AM
03-25-2019 01:54 PM
Given how many sellers complain about no buyers, it’s doubtful eBay is going to give them more barriers.
They give sellers a sure fire solution in fixed price with immediate payment required.
people have been complaining about this for the entire 20 years. No sign of any change.
I don’t think comparing eBay to a dead auction site gives eBay any good ideas. Things not to do maybe.
03-25-2019 01:57 PM
@get-collecting wrote:
2) either a % of the final sale goes to Ebay or the seller. It will cutback on unpaid items for many sellers and myself
I don't want some halfwit's money...I want them out of my way so I can go about my business making it for real.
03-25-2019 03:03 PM
I took the liberty of looking at your active listings and they all seem to be Fixed Price with a Best Offer Option rather than auction listings. I had gathered from some of your posts that you preferred auction style listings but I may have misunderstood.
As a licensed auctioneer in 19 states I can assure you that there are legal means available to collect debts from non-paying bidders. However, I'm not sure there would be many bidders willing to give eBay free access to their credit card or bank accounts.
By the way, there are many of us that have multiple accounts so it can be somewhat misleading when one looks at someone's feedback page of the ID they are using to post on the boards. Just saying.
03-25-2019 03:07 PM - edited 03-25-2019 03:09 PM
@get-collecting wrote:🤣🤣🤣 terrific...i dont care how long any of you have been selling. That has nothing to do with my discussion lol. Getting all butt hurt over my idea that buyers should be held accountable for unpaid cases.
Let me start over so you all sharks can actually understand lol and you all aren't answering anything it's an idea and a great solution for unpaid cases.
1) buyers should be held accountable if not going to pay for an item.
2) either a % of the final sale goes to Ebay or the seller. It will cutback on unpaid items for many sellers and myself
3) Ebay could easily setup a way to auto draft a % or lock accounts until fees are paid
4) and yes I have my PayPal linked to auto withdraw my money. So I dont wanna hear it illegal when to take money when you agree. Ebay should and I feel have an agreement for buyers if your gonna make a purchase and after so many days dont pay you pay % of the final cost.
It's no different than live auctions
And or selling on craigslist or Facebook people wanting down payments as it's a more of a guarantee you'll get your money cause no one likes wasting time. I sure dont
We as sellers have to pay a fee, then item goes unpaid and the time wasted to get get refund is silly. I feel really Ebay should take the fee when the item is paid. Could be as simple as that
It's that simple guys, I dont need everyone's "I been selling this many years on ebay" I could care less how long. It be 1 day or since Ebay started that has nothing to do with buyers not paying for items now does it lol? I'm not looking for an answer at all. Just like i said previous other auction places with draw funds as soon as you win an item and I'm sure you as readers will think why I don't sell there. Well Its Yahoo auctions lol.
Even with a payment in place the way a buyer can get eBay to allow returns (false returns) we would be way farther out in the weeds after paying the postage both ways, and refunding in full.
As to others starting how long they have been selling............. you were the one that was snarky to begin with on that.lol Challenging qualifications to respond to posts, based upon displayed feedback.
03-25-2019 03:22 PM
How would you hear of anyone suspended for nonpayment?
I have always been under the impression that no one knows when a buyer has accumulated two strikes and cannot buy from some smart sellers for twelve months. Was I wrong?
03-25-2019 03:24 PM - edited 03-25-2019 03:29 PM
...If buyers had to pay a fee for unpaid items after a certain time frame I feel it would cut down/cut back on unpaid items.
I doubt that would cut back on unpaid items? If we were talking 40 lashes on a televised public shaming, that might be the deterrent that would achieve the results you are looking for?
But it is entirely possible that the current system is as good as it gets: buyer doesn't pay; item is taken from them; seller blocks them, buyer incurs strikes, several strikes and other sellers block them, enough strikes and eBay puts a hold on their account (however it might be better if eBay instilled a better program in that regard, by limiting buying privileges for a period of time if 3 strikes are incurred within 6 months, say).
Your system: buyer doesn't pay item. eBay sends them a user fee. They quit eBay and don't pay the fee, but just to make you happy, eBay charges their registered credit card, the buyer files a fraud complaint with their CC against eBay. It costs eBay more to fart around with a fraud complaint then the actual charge of $1.15 they sent for the user fee, and besides they lost a customer for ever.
A financial penalty, which will never be paid, may run off many good customers who make one mistake, don't understand, or simply need to be reminded what they are doing here.
Many sellers only look at how an auction format helps them while cursing the other side of the coin. What do sellers dream about and drool over when it happens? The OP mentioned it himself. A bidding war. What is a bidding war? That's where a seller gets lucky because two buyers are not bidding on an item but they are bidding to win! And occasionally you can get very, very lucky. And occasionally the buyer realizes she can never explain to her husband why she paid $43.98 for a Mini Mouse key chain worth less than ten bucks. She has a loss of conscience and doesn't pay.
Now, I can hear sellers now: But there are non-payers sometimes who have won items that weren't in a bidding war. That doesn't matter, every auction comes with an element of loss of conscience, people place a bid on Monday, when they win it on Thursday they have a different demeanor and budget.
My point is, for every buyer who ever won one of your auctions and perhaps paid a little more than you would have got at BIN, there are going to be those who regret having ever bid. Life happens. Ebay has chosen to forgive them their transgressions.
Trust me, we are more content in life when we learn to move on after someone makes a mistake.
If I meet an A-hole in the morning, they probably are an A-hole. But if everyone I meet throughout the day is an A-hole? I'm the A-hole.
03-25-2019 03:41 PM
I think your missing the point lol. Ebay stays how its. If your good honest prompt payment no issues.
And blocking buyers dosent work. They make new Ebay accounts. Yeah I made a lot of sales but every week dealing with unpaid items is the biggest waste of time. And they wont leave. Were they gonna shop Amazon? Most of the stuff on Ebay is used and cant just get anywhere.
Do you have a cell phone? Internet, Netflix or anything a card or bank is attached to? I bet you do. And guess what if you dint pay you pay a late fee. Why dosent Ebay do that? After a week of unpaid item you gotta pay a late fee then lol. That sound better?
But yeah blocking then does no good. They use there buddies, there friends it dosent stop. I've set very strict bidding requirements. But still dsoent stop and wont stop lol
What I'm mainly **bleep** Ebay should change the fee setup. Sellers pay the fee when were paid not when the item sells. Boom fixed the problem. Just like a live auctions.
03-25-2019 03:45 PM
And if jts a bidding was who cares....that's the bidders problem not the sellers. You shouldn't be bidding if dont plan on paying. You ever go to a live auction and just be yeah I'm gonna bid...nope I changed my mind I'm gonna retract it lol. Dude in all seriousness. Some of the Ebay setup is a joke. The amount sellers pay in fees there should be some flexibility. You just dont like the idea is all 🤣 I love it and it would and can work. Check into buyee or zen market. You place a bid that's finale. Cant retract it and if you dont have the money well PayPal your PayPal covers it and guess what you have a negative balance. And guess what you cannot use your PayPal unless pay off that balance. Ebay should be same exact way
03-25-2019 03:46 PM
I can go on all day so keep coming lol
03-25-2019 03:48 PM
And your content and moving on dude when its every week lol gets old when I'm waisting alot and I mean alot of time. That's why I have a problem that's time lost and down the drain
03-25-2019 03:49 PM
For everyone that dosent like the idea send me your Ebay stores and let me get and my friends to buy for your stores and not pay. How about that lol
03-25-2019 04:04 PM
im not talking banning or suspending im talking preventing buyers from purchasing any other items till items are paid for
03-25-2019 04:18 PM
and tell me how would it not cut back? it would most certainly cutback and have people think twice if they had to pay a 10% fee for an unpaid item. either ebay or the seller gets the from the time wasted. and your just cherry picking and didnt even read everything. you dont even know the full reason why i do auctions. yeah bid wars are a benifit, but do you know what i sell? i sell trading cards, you know pokemon yugioh dragonball z? most items are hard to price and i leave it up to the bidder to decide. because at buy it now or best offer once they recieve the card they they like to pull well i feel its only worth this now. so now im stuck with that. im very honest and up front with my product but way to many people out there trying to get something for nothing. and as well if you didnt see the auctions set up 7 days i can move 50-100 items in a week vs buy it now they sit on peoples watch list. look i could go on and on why the system is some what broke.
and it sounds like alot that dont like the idea have not paid for items or changed there minds on bidding etc. look if you bid thats it you shouldnt even beable to retract your bid and item is yours. if you win an auction i personally feel its yours. item not paid with in 48hrs. you 10% fee for not paying. everyone is getting all butt hurt oh its illegal ebay take my money etc. yeah well hears the kicker. if your gonna bid on auctions you should have to have a card or account on file to auto with draw and if you dont like that then stick to buy it now. if thats not cut and dry then idk what it.
how many of you all use amazon prime? they take your money dont they? but you agree to it just like ebay should setup if your gonna bid you have to have an account on file to auto draft or something. look its just an idea and something thats a really good idea and can work.
03-25-2019 10:38 PM
Buyers should have to pay fee/penalized
For what? Or do you just think that should happen in general?
03-25-2019 10:45 PM
Sorry, I hate to disillusion you, but I am sure that everyone reading this understood exactly what you meant before you decided to explain it again.
You are conflating not agreeing with you with not understanding you. There is a difference.