08-20-2023 10:14 AM
They say it's for "educational materials". Aren't all products "educational" by some definition? Or how are romance novels educational but not puzzles and board games? I am all for following rules. But when rules are arbitrary and unenforceable I struggle to do so.
Furthermore how is it any of USPS business what's inside the package? What gives them the right to open mail just to check if something is "educational". Mail should be treated with the highest respect for privacy and never be opened by anyone but the recipient.
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08-20-2023 10:23 AM - edited 08-20-2023 10:26 AM
You may want to check here: USPS Media Mail Eligibility Requirements as it spells out in more detail for you than the general statements you may have located about the service.
As to what is in the package & their concern: they have a legal obligation to protect their employees first & foremost as well as another legal obligation to not endanger the general public through use of their goods & services. As a service provider, in all that fine print no one cares about anymore, you agree to any & all regulations in effect at the time of your handing over the parcel to their service.
There is no right to privacy that you seek to create. There is an expectation to timely delivery service based upon what was purchased & how the parcel is described at time of handoff.
08-20-2023 10:23 AM - edited 08-20-2023 10:26 AM
You may want to check here: USPS Media Mail Eligibility Requirements as it spells out in more detail for you than the general statements you may have located about the service.
As to what is in the package & their concern: they have a legal obligation to protect their employees first & foremost as well as another legal obligation to not endanger the general public through use of their goods & services. As a service provider, in all that fine print no one cares about anymore, you agree to any & all regulations in effect at the time of your handing over the parcel to their service.
There is no right to privacy that you seek to create. There is an expectation to timely delivery service based upon what was purchased & how the parcel is described at time of handoff.
08-20-2023 10:24 AM - edited 08-20-2023 10:25 AM
I have no idea why puzzles aren't considered educational, as many of them are. I'm not USPS so I don't know the reason.
That said, if you don't want your mail to be subject to inspection you need to ship First Class Package aka Ground Advantage or Priority Mail. It's been that way forever. MM is a cheaper, discounted service that has certain requirements and USPS absolutely has the right to make sure those requirements are met before the package is delivered.
That's not to say they can't open those other types of packages - they can, they just need a warrant to do so.
08-20-2023 10:28 AM
Yes, I have reviewed the requirements. From what I gather, romance novels and pop music records/tapes would not qualify as they are not "educational". But educational is subjective which is why I call this rule arbitrary and unenforceable and violates privacy.
08-20-2023 10:29 AM
Further "with standards in the Mailing Standards of the United States Postal Service, Domestic Mail Manual (DMM 300) 173.3.2, Media Mail Packages are subject to inspection by the Postal Service™. Upon such inspection, matter not eligible for the Media Mail rate may be assessed at the proper rate and sent to the recipient postage due, or the sender may be contacted for additional postage (DMM 604.8.1). "
08-20-2023 10:36 AM
Media Mail is for shipping media items containing books, sound recordings, recorded video tapes, printed music, recorded computer-readable media (such as CDs and DVDs).
Media Mail® service has special eligibility requirements for permissible contents. Media Mail rates are limited to the items listed below:
08-20-2023 10:39 AM
In general, you are dealing with the current state of regulations going back over 200 years to combat service breakers within the United States Postal Service. If you do not like or agree to accept them, you are free to use ANY other service available at other rates.
08-20-2023 10:43 AM
From this link :
https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
It says, "Media Mail shipping is a cost-effective way to send educational materials."
So it implies the media must be educational, no?
08-20-2023 10:47 AM
I have provided you specific USPS pages, that define from the very broad terms you are focused upon, what the service actually defines as eligible. I can't help you further if you are focused upon the broad advertisement of the service, not the actual definitions of eligibility & unwilling to accept that they do not need to conform to you.
YOU need to conform to their rules only. Or if refusing to do so, must seek service elsewhere. USPS does not NEED to do anything until you agree with their service & actually become a paying customer, like any other merchant.
08-20-2023 10:50 AM
You must have skipped over the rest of this statement:
"Media Mail shipping is a cost-effective way to send educational materials. This service has restrictions on the type of media that can be shipped. Media Mail rates are limited to the items listed below:"
08-20-2023 11:04 AM
Or USPS can update their 200 year old rules for the digital age. They should replace media mail with a general low cost low priority service that can be used for anything.
08-20-2023 12:08 PM
@thisisall1word wrote:From this link :
https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
It says, "Media Mail shipping is a cost-effective way to send educational materials."
So it implies the media must be educational, no?
No. That summary is deceptive. If you look at the more detailed explanation provided in the Domestic Mail Manual, you will see that the word "educational" appears specifically in only 2 of the 9 entries; it does not appear at the top of the list. Therefore, other items such as books and music do not have to be educational and even the trashiest of novels is eligible just because its a book. Furthermore, items that are very educational but which do not fit into one of these 9 categories are not rendered eligible merely by virtue of their educational benefits.
https://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/173.htm#ep1113509
Only these items may be mailed at the Media Mail prices:
08-20-2023 12:10 PM
Excellent suggestion. But that's what it is -- an idea. As with just about any other governmental function, or any other business for that matter, we are all required to comply or find another service or company.
08-20-2023 12:40 PM
Nope, that will not happen…the USPS is operating at a loss and the introduction of a all-inclusive cheaper service will cannibalize their Ground Advantage service, strain their already overburdened distribution network and put them further in the red.
08-20-2023 12:52 PM
@thisisall1word wrote:From this link :
https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
It says, "Media Mail shipping is a cost-effective way to send educational materials."
So it implies the media must be educational, no?
The (subjective) word 'educational' is the one that you can't see past. All Media Mail doesn't have to be 'educational'.