Pirateship question

[liawrig.nq8rdwqa3]

My pirateship (shipping) is linked to Paypal & Ebay.  Ebay takes % of shipping costs if I ship direct through PP or EB.  Does it take a % of shipping through Pirateship?

[orangehound]

Yes.  Both eBay and PayPal charge fees on all money that is handled.

[nobody*s_perfect]

PayPal and eBay both take  a % of the shipping cost that is paid by the buyer. It is not connected to where you purchase your postage or how much you pay for it. It's just based on the buyer's payment amount.

[liawrig.nq8rdwqa3]

So you are saying regardless if I go to Pirateship and make the shipment, EB/PP still take a %cut of the shipping cost?

Hmmmm....let me contact Pirateship direct, but I doubt they know.

[penguins_dont_fly]

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@liawrig.nq8rdwqa3 wrote:

So you are saying regardless if I go to Pirateship and make the shipment, EB/PP still take a %cut of the shipping cost?

Hmmmm....let me contact Pirateship direct, but I doubt they know.

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The percentage is a Final Value Fee (eBay) and a Payment Processing Fee (PayPal)

It is not a "postage fee".

It doesn't matter where you buy your postage ...

eBay charges 10% on the TOTAL amount of the sale

PayPal charges 2.9%+0.30 on the TOTAL amount of the sale

[nobody*s_perfect]

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@liawrig.nq8rdwqa3 wrote:

So you are saying regardless if I go to Pirateship and make the shipment, EB/PP still take a %cut of the shipping cost?

Hmmmm....let me contact Pirateship direct, but I doubt they know.

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If you examine your invoice, you will see that the charge for the final value fee on shipping shows up when the buyer pays, not when you purchase your postage. There's no reason for other postage providers such as Pirateship, endicia, stamps.com, et al.  to be familiar with ebay's billing policies.  

[liawrig.nq8rdwqa3]

Here's an example of what's on the invoice:

Final Value fee on shipping US $0.63

All month of May I have been using Pirateship and it seems that EB has been taking shipping fees even if I get the postage from another site!!!

That's not right.  I'm trying to avoid those shipping fees.

[frodobagginskennedy]

You cannot avoid the shipping fees.  It is what it is.

[nobody*s_perfect · Accepted solution]

It's not a shipping fee. It's a final value fee.  As noted above, eBay and PayPal both take their percentage based on the buyer's total payment.

PayPal takes their percentage all at once, when the buyer pays.  

eBay takes theirs in two installments: First on the item price at the time of the transaction, and then on the shipping  portion of the buyer's payment when the payment is made.  Before the buyer pays, it's often not certain how much the buyer will be paying for shipping (due to seller offering shipping choices, or buyer changing address used for calculated shipping, etc.). The only way to avoid this fee is to offer free shipping, so the buyer's payment for shipping is zero and the final value fee percentage will thus also be zero.

[orangehound]

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@penguins_dont_fly wrote:

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eBay charges 10% on the TOTAL amount of the sale

PayPal charges 2.9%+0.30 on the TOTAL amount of the sale

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PayPal also charges 2.9% on sales taxes that are collected ... at least eBay doesn't charge fees on the sales tax that is collected (yet).

[liawrig.nq8rdwqa3]

OK.  Got it.

[penguins_dont_fly]

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@liawrig.nq8rdwqa3 wrote:

Here's an example of what's on the invoice:

Final Value fee on shipping US $0.63

All month of May I have been using Pirateship and it seems that EB has been taking shipping fees even if I get the postage from another site!!!

That's not right.  I'm trying to avoid those shipping fees.

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You are not understanding.

The fees are not "shipping fees"

You sell something for a total amount of $30 (item price + shipping paid by the buyer)

eBay takes 10% of the total amount ($3.00)

PayPal takes 2.9%+0.30 of the total amount (0.87+0.30=$1.17)

$10 item + $20 Shipping = $3.00 eBay ($1+$2) & $1.17 PP

$15 item + $15 Shipping = $3.00 eBay ($1.50+$1.50) & $1.17 PP

$20 item + $10 Shipping = $3.00 eBay ($2+1) & $1.17 PP

$30 item + Free Shipping = $3.00 eBay ($3) & $1.17 PP

These fees have nothing to do with POSTAGE or where you buy your postage.

[johnrj1226]

@liawrig.nq8rdwqa3 

It is easy to understand what ever total amount the buyer pays you eBay & PayPal take their fees - FVF %age, 10% usually (eBay) and transaction fees (PayPal 2.9% + 30 cents).   These fees  have no bearing on  the purchase cost of your postage thru Pirateship or thru PayPal or any other source.