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oldwest_sportscards_collectibles · ‎03-14-2021

Unbelievable EBay...After researching many post or should I say “ Nightmares “ that you facilitate criminal activities of fraudulent buyers. Just this morning EBay informed me they are siding with a thief who claims thee item I sent was not as described. This after the buyer has refused to be transparent in this matter. This buyer has obviously done this before. So now I’m waiting for thee alleged damaged item to return. However, after reading the hellish experiences on this matter. I have decided to do my own thing. I’m not going to even open up the return package, when I receive it. Instead I’m going to send it directly to EBAY. So they can open it up and not find nothing in that return package. Or, if they do receive an actual item, they can match it to the one I originally posted and sent out. So that they themselves can see that this buyer is a fraud and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Wire fraud is a federal offense. I’d rather do this than play this fraudulent buyers games. The amount of the purchase isn’t that much. It’s the principal that is at stake. The principal that us sellers are being exploited and being taken full advantage of under EBay’s “ Money Back Guaranteed “ policies.

Ebay will find along with the fraudulent package, a letter from me. A letter stating what they are doing to me and everyone else who sells on EBay. I’m an easygoing seller and the thought of a customer doing something like this to me never entered my mind.

I sell sports cards. I sold and sent the purchase order out to the buyer. The buyer said the card came creased. Ok...This is where the crime is committed.

I respectfully asked the buyer to send me two pictures of thee entire card, both front and back. Just like my pictures that I posted to sell the baseball card. What I got was a cropped picture of a card I never seen before in my life. The SINGLE picture only showed the top third front of the card. The fraudulent buyer did this to deceitfully hide the rest of the card. Because two pictures shown of that entire card, both front and back, would not match up with the pictures that I posted. This matter should be completely black and white and a slam dunk. This matter should be of no case. As it is clear as thee light of day....that this buyer is not being transparent and committing thee act of fraud. A criminal offense. EBay can keep that package Im sending them. Because even if there is something in that package coming back to me, which there probably won’t be, it doesn’t belong to me. Because it’s not my card. My card is in that fraudulent buyers collection. A collection with other cards gotten by the buyer. The same way they got my card. For FREE!

oldwest_sportscards_collectibles · ‎03-14-2021

I actually did call the police. They said thee FBI handles situations like this and gave me their phone number to their local office in my county.

oldwest_sportscards_collectibles · ‎03-14-2021

I thought about that as well. It’s completely egregious on EBAY. I mean, although I never would, what’s to stop me from doing the same thing to you fine folks that are replying to this post. This is a problem folks...A huge problem. You’re telling me a multi billion dollar company like EBay is allowing these low life ghetto scum buckets to trample all over us honest sellers. Not only allowing these scum, but facilitating the perfect environment in which to do so? Who out here can tell me some alternative sites where I can sell my goods and not be abused by that company and their buyers. Does one such company even exist. E-Commerce is a fledgling and budding industry. Something has to be done about all this fraud going on.

firesteel_surplus · ‎03-14-2021

I feel your pain....I really do...

But here is the reality of your situation. And I am going to be blunt...

You said you sold a "card." Looking at your sold auctions, your highest card was 60 bucks. From what I can see, that 60 bucks is a big deal. It would be a big deal to me too. I'd be p!ssed off. But calling the police and FBI even if they filled out a report on a $60 baseball card let alone a $15 baseball card...or even a $100 baseball card. Do you know how many man hours is going to get spent working on your "case?" However long it took to fill out the report if they even fill out a report much less send an officer over to take the report...that is about how long they would work on it.

This is a non-issue for them. It's a non-issue for ebay. And for us sellers that's really unfortunate.

But here is another of our own little realities...ebay is expecting us to compete with Amazon (at least those of us with Stores). Shipping time frames. The customer is ALWAYS right. "Free" shipping. Free returns. Money back guarantees. The list goes on and on and on...you are going to find the big one in here is that the customer is ALWAYS right (probably 99.8% of the time...guessing...). And you got hit with that one...

Does this make it right what happened to you? Nope. I mean really? Calling the police and the FBI? Are you expecting them to send a fleet of squad cars over and a swat team to get your card back? Not going to happen. Not going to happen in a million years...

Don't mean to step on your toes. But this is ebay. It's e-commerce. Stuff happens. You win a lot. You lose a little. You make sure you win a lot in this game.

Mike

Firesteel Surplus

oldwest_sportscards_collectibles · ‎03-14-2021

You should learn to process information. I never said I called thee FBI...I stated my local police department gave me the number to their local office. My local office as a law abiding tax paying citizen of this great country. As far as actually calling them, bluntly, that’s none of your business. But I do appreciate your empathetic support. What an outstanding member of this EBay community, you are. If I did call the FBI...I have full autonomy and latitude to do so. It just so happens I’m a surviving cancer patient, who will not waste precious time on this matter. Although I should, everybody should so thee FBI can be exposed to this dark light that EBAY is facilitating and emanating. I don’t dig on people who steal, and even worse, get away with it. Lol...I’d like to see my fraudulent buyer approach me and try to take something of my property away from me in person. These fraudulent buyers are cowards and scum buckets who couldn’t hang a day in jail. They’d get there shoes taken away from them in the holding tank😂

vintagecraze50 · ‎03-14-2021

The policies that “protect” the buyers on here are what cause the “non-protection” of the sellers. I know that sounds really bad but, one must consider that sellers here could really have a field day with buyers and scam then to the Maximus and then All of us would loose the business of the MOSTLY good buyers here who pay, appreciate their items and then come back and buy from us again and again. Laws are rampant that protect consumers from fraud EVERYWHERE and especially with sight unseen purchases on the internet. Credit card companies are more than willing to comply with these laws by refunding purchases and letting people keep even extremely expensive items when they cry fraudulent use of their credit card, It is what it is and you must learn how to adapt and plan for this on here.

vintagecraze50 · ‎03-14-2021

Investigating internet fraud is also a fledgling industry. However there is a site called IC3 run by the FBI. Many years ago Amazon had a scamming couple who sent back 100’s of thousands of merch to them and cried defective and got replacements where they sold off the alleged defectives and kept them replacements for more sales. They were slam dunked into the slammer for this. Many others have done this type of thing with designer purses and were caught and prosecuted. These were of course BIG TIME scams.

oldwest_sportscards_collectibles · ‎03-14-2021

Criminals never think they’re gonna get caught...eventually, their greed and sloppiness gets them popped. NOBODY is above the law. However, it’s companies like EBAY that are a huge part of the problem instead of the solution. Lol, when people in here say I should change and adapt. Adapt to what? Adapt to letting scum bags steal from me? Lol...so I got ripped off and EBAY allows these kind of matters to happen everyday. It doesn’t mean I have to accept it. We’re taught that if we are victimized, to tell someone. To go to the proper authorities and proper channels to rectify the trespass against us. Only to be rejected and assumed a liar by nothing but a slave owners mentality when it comes to the reaction from EBAY. Instead EBAY encourages these acts by criminal buyers, as well as enabling these low life scum bucket cowards.

morste_3351 · ‎03-14-2021

They're sending the return back to eBay without even opening it. Seriously, if you condone this childish act, you're as bad as they are.

morste_3351 · ‎03-14-2021

IC3 just tracks trends, the FBI only gets involved when one person/address has a bunch of reports

vintagecraze50 · ‎03-15-2021

So, get with your FBI report, and if this person is a habitual thief of Expensive trading cards maybe they will get enough complaints on here to get thrown off and just an itty bit of chance that the FBI or other law enforcement will catch them. Especially if they are running a BIG TIME trading card steal.