01-21-2018 02:32 PM
I ship via FedEx Smartpost very often on my seller account for cheap, but larger packages, especially across the country. I went to print some labels today and the prices have more than doubled. They are more expensive than FedEx Ground which is a quicker and better service. I usually can send a 5lb package to the West coast from the East coast for $10-14, but now the price shows as $27.00 (FedEx Ground is $20). Even within a few hundred miles, the price usually is between $5-9.00, the price quoted now is $14.00. Does this have to do with the updated USPS pricing or is it some other error with eBay?
01-31-2018 03:45 PM
"eBay is high volume and negotiated it for us."
I do not know about anyone else, but if that is the best that they could negotiate for us then they might just as well end the program. Who needs a option that is slower, more expensive and potentially a problem for any insure claims? For all intents it is worthless now.
01-31-2018 04:29 PM - edited 01-31-2018 04:32 PM
@Anonymous, lack of notification to all USA sellers is a bigger issue than the glitch(es), IMHO. Only a small percentage of sellers frequent the Community and/or the ebay for Business Facebook page, and don't even know about this under-the-radar SmartPost rate increase.
Last night I purchased an item, free shipping, with SmartPost specified. The item is a size replacement for an identical item I'm about to list. I know pretty nearly what the package size & weight should be. SmartPost cost is almost double USPS between our zip codes. I immediately messaged the seller that I'm perfectly happy with the price I paid, but wanted to be sure they're aware that SmartPost was about to get a big chunk of their profit. Do unto others & all that...for me it would seem unkind not to give a heads up.
@Anonymous, y'all really need to ebay inbox message an announcement to your sellers.
01-31-2018 10:47 PM
Today I encountered the same problem with SmartPost as the seller of an item.
The buyer saw an estimated cost of $13.37 for shipping - which he paid. However, when I ran the label, it was over $50! for a 16x16x15 box weighing 6 pounds going from CA to NY.
Phoned EBay and they worked with me to provide relief and said that they will work on the issue. However, How long does it take for them to work on this issue since according to his thread, it's been going on for over a week?
Do I have to put a disclaimer in my listings that EBay's esimator is not showing the actual costs and that buyers should contact for actual shipping? Or should I just offer free shipping and adjust the price higher? Although, I'm finding that most folks are offer 1/2 on ANYTHING I list no matter what the price is. If I list something for $500, the offer will be less than $250. For the same item, if I come down to $300, the offer will be $150.
I'm not too sure how to play the 'game' with postage pricing when I'm not too sure what the actual price is going to be because I don't know who is buying the item and from where. I could just charge everyone a flat rate regardess of shipping estiamtes, but it's unfair for folks who live just 'around the corner' from me and would be paying more than they have to.
02-01-2018 05:15 AM
02-09-2018 04:16 PM
Hi everyone, I have an update on this topic to share: we've implemented fixes to the way that FedEx SmartPost costs are displayed that should resolve the recent problem with buyers seeing a different price than what you see when you went to print labels. I apologize for the trouble this may have caused and recommend contacting Customer Service if you have any questions about the shipping discrepancies you may have run into while this was an issue.
02-12-2018 03:23 PM
wrote:Hi everyone, I have an update on this topic to share: we've implemented fixes to the way that FedEx SmartPost costs are displayed that should resolve the recent problem with buyers seeing a different price than what you see when you went to print labels. I apologize for the trouble this may have caused and recommend contacting Customer Service if you have any questions about the shipping discrepancies you may have run into while this was an issue.
Thanks for getting a fix out there. Unfortunately am not quite ready to accept this as the final solution. While the Smartpost rates quoted to the buyer are much closer to actual than before this fix, they are still being quoted less than the Est. cost to print the label. I checked 2/12/2018 on 2 previous shipments that had the original problem of 2.5 times higher cost to print the label than the buyer was charged. After the fix the buyer is being charged 86% of my cost to print both labels. Both shipments i checked were to the west coast in boxes of size 16x16x9 - 3 pounds and 16x12x9 8 pounds. So it is better, but seller quote is still less than eBay estimated print label cost (but who knows if the actual fedex charge that comes through later would be higher or lower) can't tell since i stopped using Smart Post. Am in the process now of figuring exactly what size box smart post can still be used to save on shipping over USPS or Fedex Home. Quite small dimensions it seems, but some cases may work out to start using smart post again.
02-13-2018 08:14 PM - edited 02-13-2018 08:15 PM
they are still being quoted less than the Est. cost to print the label. I checked 2/12/2018 on 2 previous shipments that had the original problem of 2.5 times higher cost to print the label than the buyer was charged. After the fix the buyer is being charged 86% of my cost to print both labels. Both shipments i checked were to the west coast in boxes of size 16x16x9 - 3 pounds and 16x12x9 8 pounds. So it is better, but seller quote is still less than eBay estimated print label cost (but who knows if the actual fedex charge that comes through later would be higher or lower)
In spite of what Trinton posted, Smartpost is still not right, and it is still a Dimensional Weight Divisor problem. Although the estimating calculator was finally fixed to actually use a Dimensional Weight Divisor (DWD) instead of none at all, and it was fixed using the correct 166 DWD, the label calculator was not updated to use the correct divisor and is still using 139 which produces higher dimensional weights, and higher label charges.
The lower amounts the buyer is being shown are technically correct now. They are based on the nicer 166 divisor that we were told was negotiated for us.
The higher actual label amounts are unfortunately still being calculated using the (incorrect) standard 139 Dim Weight divisor, and are too high. In effect, eBay promised us the nice 166 DWD, but isn't using it in the actual label calcs, and is overcharging sellers for every Smartpost label as a result. (I just checked 10 minutes ago)
Example for your 16x16x9 package:
The estimating calculator would show and charge your buyer based on 16x16x9/166 = 14 pounds as the Dim Weight, but when you go to print the label, the costs are based on a 16x16x9/139 = 17 pound Dim Weight. For a zone 7 shipment (you to me), the base rate for 14 pounds is $26.75 while it's $30.50 for 17 pounds. That's a $6.25 raw* difference because of the incorrect DWD being used for the label calculations. *Fuel and other Surcharges and eBay discounts affect the final difference.
The amounts you are actually charged should match the label charges* (eBay may actually get the correct Dim weight billing from FedEx and skim the difference off - unknown how they handle the billing internally)
*barring "thumb on the scale" and package dimension inflation screwups which are another issue entirely.
As an aside, while looking at your listings to determine your relative zone to me, I picked your "6 Sony Speaker" listing. It is suffering from the other FedEx Ground/Home delivery bugaboo where the search results show a high, over double shipping cost due to search showing full FedEx Ground retail rates, while the listing is showing the discounted online rates (and would likely charge the buyer the lower discounted rates). Issue is with scaring off buyers with crazy incorrect shipping costs before they click into the listing to see the lower real cost.
04-09-2018 10:33 AM
what size packages are you talking here??? everything that I've been mailing that is over 3 pds has been way way cheaper with fedex. And heavier stuff ,forget about it Example 1 I'm doing today comes up: 16 pd package going from 14213 (buffalo,ny) to 96050 (california) 10x10x10 box. usps -priority 48.68 and parcel select is 50.18. If I go to usps website priority 3 day is 53.65 and 50.50 and you can't even buy that online. Fedex smartpost 19.01 and even fedex home delivery is 27.77. Am I the only 1 seeing this? I mean thats a 30.00 difference. Thats crazy. usps has always been way cheaper (12 years selling on ebay 1500 pos feedback 100%) and now itseems like around a year ago or so everything flipped and now fedex is way cheaper and the weird thing is that nobody seems to have noticed or is talking about it? Is this just me?
04-09-2018 10:40 AM
04-09-2018 02:04 PM
@judd1831, packages that are heavier than typical for a smaller box size usually do ship for significantly less via FedEx. It’s SmartPost rates that went nuts, with the new dim weight kicker. Only the smallest boxes still ship SmartPost at a better rate. There are several threads with examples & lots of complaining... Are you certain your recent invoices don’t show any additional fees beyond what you paid at label purchase? Please post a couple of examples where you used SmartPost, and I’ll see what rates the calculator shows for me, but probably it’s the same as you’re seeing.
04-14-2018 02:52 AM
I don't know what your talking about as my complaint is that usps prices increased and what I said was the cost for a package was double for usps over what it was for a fedex.