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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

I sold a camera a couple of weeks ago, listing the item as 'seller not accepting returns'. A few days after receiving the item, the buyer opened a 'item not as described' return request, claiming that the camera doesn't work. Actually, the camera does work, but I before I sold it, I had forgotten to change an in-camera feature that affects the shutter. I messaged the buyer with written and video instructions on changing the setting, and the buyer then responded that the issue is fixed and I can cancel the return.

 

I messaged the buyer stating that ebay doesn't give me the option of cancelling the return, and I asked the buyer to cancel the return from their account. It has been a few days and the buyer still hasn't done anything.

 

So basically, the return request is still sitting in my account, showing that my 'response is overdue', while the buyer hasn't done anything to cancel it, even though the buyer states to cancel the return.

 

My question is: what happens if the buyer doesn't cancel the return and request still asks me to 'respond'? Will the return request expire? Or will ebay automatically 'return' the buyer's money due to my 'lack of response'?

 

(Paypal has kept this transaction money on hold in my account. I am worried this so-called "lack of response" would eventually lead to the buyer eventually getting back this money *and also keeping the item* slight_frown)

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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

The return should close automatically around the 30 day mark 🙂



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Thanks for the reply! I had been really worried but it looks like I'll just have to wait.
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You are RIGHT to worry here. If you don't act NOW the buyer will get their money back AND possibly the item you sold them. They will be refunded if you do not respond to this return request immediately--I cannot stress the seriousness of this enough.

 

You have not responded to the return, right? There is a reason there is a deadline to respond to return requests--because if you MISS that deadline (and we don't want to keep the buyer waiting forever, right?) then eBay can decide (or the buyer can hurry them up in their decision with ONE phone call) that you are not offering a resolution for the buyer. Ever heard of "Case closed without seller resolution?" If not, you need to familiarize yourself ASAP--because that is what you are doing here--allowing either eBay or the buyer to resolve the request without your input. I know you aren't a huge seller here, but you are about to ripped off in a major way.

 

Call eBay NOW. Accept the return request immediately if that is what they say to do. Tell them you have messages that state the buyer wants to close the request, HOWEVER I don't think that is going to work--ONLY the buyer can close the return request that THEY opened--not you--and you CANNOT ignore it--that is a HUGE mistake.  After you accept the return,  IF the buyer doesn't send back the item, THEN it will close in 30 days--but right now, you are WIDE open for a nasty surprise. Take care of this immediately--DO IT NOW.

 

 

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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

Since your money will be held until this matter is resolved, I suggest you request the buyer's contact information.  That will give you their phone number.  You could call and let them know that they need to close it and that you can't as the seller.

 

Or you can do as other suggest and just wait until it times out and closes.  Whichever works best for you.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

Me?

I'd respond with Return for Refund to show eBay that you responded to the request.

Then I'd contact the buyer and ask them again to cancel the return so that they will release the payment.

 

If you contact the buyer before you responsd, you do run the risk of the buyer being able to "ask eBay to step in" as you haven't taken care of it in eBay's eyes.  Then it could become a mess.

 

Once you get the return clock started back in your favor, if the buyer doesn't ship it back within 5 business days, you can ask eBay to close it.

 

Of course, you could let it time out but you run the risk of losing the sale monies.

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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

A return request just doesn't "time out" if it did then every seller on eBay would refuse to respond, and wait for the request to time out. I think other posters are getting confused here--they must think that you already accepted the return--which you did not--correct? eBay is telling you that you are overdue accepting the request. Again--it will NOT time out--you have to respond. 

 

I would also click the "accept the return" button and THEN it will time out after 30 days IF the buyer doesn't send it back. However, you run the risk of the buyer sending the item back. Either get ahold of the buyer and tell them to close the return request--or accept the return request--or call eBay and ask them to close it based upon messages sent from the buyer (although I don't know if they will agree to do this for you--you definitely need to get a rep. who understands English well enough to comprehend the messages). In any case--the advice of just letting it "time out" won't work here. I am telling you right now--do something about this--be pro-active here, before it is too late.

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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

We aren’t getting confused here. The request will automatically time out if neither the OP or the buyer ask eBay to step in. They have 30-ish days to ask eBay to step in otherwise the request times out. 



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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

Ok,reading the responses, I'm getting a little more confused.

 

My understanding is that, *if I accept the return*, and if the buyer then does nothing, the  request times out. This is clear to me.

 

However, where I'm confused is that *if I don't click anything* and the request is still open and shows as 'response overdue', then ebay might eventually rule in buyer's favor, even if neither the buyer nor I does anything next?

 

Does anyone have personal experiences with not doing anything and then getting screwed?

Alternatively, does anyone have personal experiences with not doing anything and the request closes?

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@windrunner1203


You can accept the return and send a return shipping label, then let it close out.

 

 

 

Have a great day.
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@kensgiftshop wrote:

@windrunner1203


You can accept the return and send a return shipping label, then let it close out.

 

 

 


NO it does NOT.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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Buyer agrees to cancel return, but doesn't cancel.

Yes, you MUST accept the return.  Ebay will then issue a label to your buyer to return the item.

 

If your buyer does not stick the package in the mail within 5 business days from the time the label is issued, then you can call Ebay and have the Request for Return closed.

 

Since your buyer is not responding to you regarding closing this RFR [Request for Return], it is in your best interest to do these steps.  Otherwise in a day or so, Ebay will say you did not respond and escalate the RFR to a claim.  At that time it will most likely get closed in the buyer's favor and you will get a ding on your account.

 

Now there is the off chance that if Ebay escalates the RFR to a Claim that they still require the buyer to return the item.  But they may not do that.  If the buyer doesn't return the item, then Ebay would close the Claim in your favor.  HOWEVER there is a chance that even without a return, that Ebay will refund the buyer from your money, allow them to keep the item and ding your account.

 

So YES, ACCEPT the RFR ASAP for your protection.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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"Since your buyer is not responding to you regarding closing this RFR [Request for Return], it is in your best interest to do these steps. Otherwise in a day or so, Ebay will say you did not respond and escalate the RFR to a claim. At that time it will most likely get closed in the buyer's favor and you will get a ding on your account."
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Does this mean that Ebay could act even if neither the buyer nor I ask Ebay to step in?
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@windrunner1203 wrote:
"Since your buyer is not responding to you regarding closing this RFR [Request for Return], it is in your best interest to do these steps. Otherwise in a day or so, Ebay will say you did not respond and escalate the RFR to a claim. At that time it will most likely get closed in the buyer's favor and you will get a ding on your account."
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Does this mean that Ebay could act even if neither the buyer nor I ask Ebay to step in?

YES.  Don't be reluctant.  This is something you NEED to do to protect yourself.  But of course if you are uncomfortable for some reason in doing as suggested, then sit back and wait.  You won't like the outcome, but it is entirely your decision to make.  Your delay in doing this could cost you.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@missjen831 wrote:

We aren’t getting confused here. The request will automatically time out if neither the OP or the buyer ask eBay to step in. They have 30-ish days to ask eBay to step in otherwise the request times out. 


Jen is correct it will time out even if it’s not accepted.  We see it happen all the time from the buyers side because they failed to ask eBay to step in before the deadline and it closes with no refund.  

However I don’t think I’d risk it because If the buyer asks eBay to step in at any point between now and then eBay might issue and refund without return since the seller didn’t accept it.  So I think I’d chose return for refund. You risk confusing the buyer this way but seems the safer option 

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