cancel
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

An interesting ZIP code wrinkle

According to https://www.unitedstateszipcodes.org/ there are place in the United States that are so sparsely populated that (QUOTE) Remote and especially rural areas of the country do not have enough deliverable addresses (emphasis added) to create a mail route. (therefore) a ZIP is not needed.(end quote). The emphasis is meant to say that there are people there, just not many of them, as opposed to completely vacant land. (A map was included)

 

Just wondering if any one has run into this. You would think that people in a sparsely populated area would be most likely to buy on line (satellite phone internet?) ‘cause it’s not like they have a shopping mall down the path.

I can not teach anybody anything
I can only make them think
Socrates
Message 1 of 12
latest reply
11 REPLIES 11

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle

IMO the map and the passage that you quoted are misleading.  If you look at that map, large portions of Florida are shown as having no zip codes.

 

Again IMO, I would not consider anything in Florida to be that remote.

But if you compare that map to a map of military holdings and national parks, those "remote" areas match up somewhat.

 

So the lack of zip code is in some cases for reasons other than sparsely populated.

 

There are some areas shown as no-zip very close to where I live.  In a National Forest.  Where there are no residences and will be no residences.  In at least some of those regions my understanding is that they fall within nearby zips/post offices.  Where any commercial or government related mail is handled.  Their mailing address would be that PO, not their actual location.

Message 2 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle


@richard1rst wrote:
 ... there are place in the United States that are so sparsely populated that (QUOTE) Remote and especially rural areas of the country do not have enough deliverable addresses (emphasis added) to create a mail route. (therefore) a ZIP is not needed.(end quote). ....

The page specifies, "Without mail delivery, a ZIP is not needed."  Those locations don't have mail delivery so you won't get buyers who ask you to mail things to them in those areas.  The people who live there are the folks who are posting here saying, "USPS doesn't deliver to my location and I have to have a PO Box, why won't sellers ship to a PO Box?"

Message 3 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle

I grew up near the Navajo reservation where it's very sparsely populated. Those that lived in areas where there were no delivery routes typically had their mail delivered to the nearest trading post.
Message 4 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle


The page specifies, "Without mail delivery, a ZIP is not needed."  Those locations don't have mail delivery so you won't get buyers who ask you to mail things to them in those areas.  The people who live there are the folks who are posting here saying, "USPS doesn't deliver to my location and I have to have a PO Box, why won't sellers ship to a PO Box?"


Exactly. For 14 years I had to use a PO Box because I lived in the San Bernardino Mountains in California. This is not rural nor sparse, there is a huge population, a large city, a hospital with state of the art equipment, etc. The issue is this is a mountain where they cannot deliver mail to each and every house due to the mountanous roads. Therefore everyone has to have a PO Box. You aren't even charged for the box, you simply show a proof of residency with a utility statement. 

People automatically think that a PO Box means there is a scam but it depends on where you live. I live in California which is covered with mountains and people live on those mountains- with very nice homes I might add. 

 

Message 5 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle

On the flip side to that here in nyc several buildings have there own zip code like the empire state building and the chrysler building go figure

Message 6 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle

On the flip side to that here in nyc several buildings have there own zip code like the empire state building and the chrysler building go figure I GUESS ITS ALL ABOUT  THE BODY COUNT LOL

Message 7 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle


@muttlymob wrote:

IMO the map and the passage that you quoted are misleading.  If you look at that map, large portions of Florida are shown as having no zip codes.

 

Again IMO, I would not consider anything in Florida to be that remote.

But if you compare that map to a map of military holdings and national parks, those "remote" areas match up somewhat.

 

So the lack of zip code is in some cases for reasons other than sparsely populated.

 

There are some areas shown as no-zip very close to where I live.  In a National Forest.  Where there are no residences and will be no residences.  In at least some of those regions my understanding is that they fall within nearby zips/post offices.  Where any commercial or government related mail is handled.  Their mailing address would be that PO, not their actual location.


The biggest area of Florida with out zip codes is the Everglades. The area is completely uninhabitable. The only thing that lives there are alligators. I suspect that most of the rest of the no zip code areas in Florida are also uninhabitable swamp land.

Message 8 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle


@suande-87 wrote:
I grew up near the Navajo reservation where it's very sparsely populated. Those that lived in areas where there were no delivery routes typically had their mail delivered to the nearest trading post.

Yes, I helped register voters on a reservation last fall because so many Native Americans in parts of Arizona don’t have addresses and the government has been making it extremely hard for many of them to register to vote and then get to the polls because of their locations and lack of mail accessiblity. It’s a really terrible situation.

Message 9 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle

@princess_phones

 

I was going to visit my friend on the Rez. She gave me directions to her house: Go 15 miles down hwy 89, turn left when you see the salt cedars. 

 

Go five miles down, and turn a the boot on the fence, continue till you see the pink horse (he's actually white but the red sand stained him). Turn right, I'm the 3rd house on the right.

Message 10 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle


@suande-87 wrote:

@princess_phones

 

I was going to visit my friend on the Rez. She gave me directions to her house: Go 15 miles down hwy 89, turn left when you see the salt cedars. 

 

Go five miles down, and turn a the boot on the fence, continue till you see the pink horse (he's actually white but the red sand stained him). Turn right, I'm the 3rd house on the right.


YES!!! I have several friends on a few rezs here in Phoenix with very similar addresses! Take a hard right at the fencepost with the blue paint bucket and then it’s two miles past the last brown house on the left to the white-ish house with the yellow truck in the side yard and wooden bench and table on the porch. 

 

I love the pink horse vision!

Message 11 of 12
latest reply

Re: An interesting ZIP code wrinkle

Heaven forbid you miss a turn, you might drive 150 miles without seeing anyone!
Message 12 of 12
latest reply