second offer

[sidg52]

is it really working out second offer for a buyer when the 1st buyer didn't buy it?

[kiss-3]

I have found as a general rule it does not. I remove the item and relist it making changes to heading, description and the price (up or down). This will also change the item #.

[mam98031]

I have found that I would get about a 50/50 chance.  Now it also depends on how quickly you send them and what duration you give them to respond.  The faster you can send the out the better.  And remember buyers are typically on Ebay as much as us sellers are.  So make sure you give them time to respond.

[sasithisback]

It has some possibility if you send an offer to buyer quickly

[argy_eyes]

@sidg52 

I have had only one case of a backing out bidder. I just put the item up exactly as it was and it sold for $100 more than it finished for the first bidder (I guess there's some justice in the world).

I think the reason there is so little success with the "next highest bidder" offers eBay sends out is that they are not a fair deal: If the high bidder backs out, the offer to the runner-up bidder should be the max bid of the 2nd runner-up plus one minimum bid increment. This is what the runner-up would have got the item for if not for the flaky high bidder. This can be significantly lower than the max bid of the runner-up, which is the offer that (I recall) eBay sends out.

Mike

[femmefan1946 · Accepted solution]

වෙන්දේසිය අවසන් වී පැය 24 ක් ඇතුළත දෙවන අවස්ථාව පිරිනැමීම ඔබට ඉක්මණින් කළ හැකි නම්.

ඊට පසුව, ගැණුම්කරු ඉදිරියට යන්නට ඇත, නැතහොත් ඔහු යාමට කැමති තරම් ඔහුගේ ලංසුව ඉහළට තල්ලු කිරීමෙන් ඔබ ඔහුට වංචා කරයි යැයි සිතිය හැකිය.

එය වටින දෙය නම්, වෙන්දේසි වන්නේ ඊ බේ ගනුදෙනු වලින් 15% ක් පමණි. නොගෙවූ ලංසුකරුවෙකු සමඟ වෙන්දේසි අවසන් වීමට වැඩි ඉඩක් ඇති අතර, නොගෙවූ අයිතම ආරවුලක් සම්පූර්ණ කර අසාර්ථක ගනුදෙනුව අවසන් කිරීමට එක්සත් ජනපද නොවන විකුණුම්කරුවෙකුට දින අටක් ගතවේ.

ඔබේ වෙන්දේසිය අසමත් වුවහොත්, එය ස්ථාවර මිල ලැයිස්තුවක් ලෙස යැවීම වඩා හොඳ විය හැකිය, දැන් වෙළඳපල වටිනාකම කුමක්දැයි ඔබ දනී. වේගයෙන් මිලදී ගැනීම සඳහා ස්ථාවර මිලකට කැබලි අක්ෂර රඳා පවතින බව ඔබේ සියලු ලංසුකරුවන්ට දැනුම් දිය හැකිය.

[femmefan1946]

If you are able to make the Second Chance Offer quickly that is within 24 hours of the end of the auction.

Later than that, the buyer may have moved on, or may think you are scamming him by pushing his bid as high as he was willing to go.

For what it is worth, only about 15% of eBay transactions are auctions. Auctions are more likely to end with a non-paying bidder and it takes a non-US seller eight days to complete an Unpaid Item Dispute and end the failed transaction.

If your Auction fails, it may be better to relist it as a Fixed Price Listing, now that you know what the market value is. And you can notify all your bidders that the lot has been relisted at Fixed Price for faster purchase.

[sidg52]

Great...didn't expect a clear explanation than this. Thank you so much.. love from  Sri Lanka ❤️

[mam98031]

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@argy_eyes wrote:

@sidg52 

I have had only one case of a backing out bidder. I just put the item up exactly as it was and it sold for $100 more than it finished for the first bidder (I guess there's some justice in the world).

I think the reason there is so little success with the "next highest bidder" offers eBay sends out is that they are not a fair deal: If the high bidder backs out, the offer to the runner-up bidder should be the max bid of the 2nd runner-up plus one minimum bid increment. This is what the runner-up would have got the item for if not for the flaky high bidder. This can be significantly lower than the max bid of the runner-up, which is the offer that (I recall) eBay sends out.

Mike

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To me that doesn't make a lot of sense.  If it had not of been for the buyer that didn't pay, that would mean they didn't bid, so the end result would be that this other bidder you want to send the SCO to would have won the bid at the amount they bid on the item.  The process is simple, they throw out the bids of the buyer that never paid.  By doing that, there should NOT be a "significantly" different price unless for some reason your bid increments were significantly higher, they are usually much smaller amounts.

[argy_eyes]

@mam98031 

Mam,

'If it had not of been for the buyer that didn't pay, that would mean they didn't bid, so the end result would be that this other bidder you want to send the SCO to would have won the bid at the amount they bid on the item. "

It's been a while since I last had a non-paying bidder, so I could be completely wrong on this, either due to a faulty memory or a change in eBay's calculation for SCO's.

The key here is the distinction between the runner-up's  "max bid" and and their eBay-calculated auto-bid. If "the amount the runner-up bid on the item" is taken as the auto-bid that eBay calculates on the basis of the 2nd-runner-up's maximum plus one minimum increment, then all is well and I agree with your statement.

If, on the other hand, eBay is sending out an offer equal to the runner-up's max bid, I would still say it's not a good deal, because that could be much higher than the 2nd runner-up's max plus one minimum increment.

Mike

[mam98031]

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@argy_eyes wrote:

@mam98031 

Mam,

'If it had not of been for the buyer that didn't pay, that would mean they didn't bid, so the end result would be that this other bidder you want to send the SCO to would have won the bid at the amount they bid on the item. "

It's been a while since I last had a non-paying bidder, so I could be completely wrong on this, either due to a faulty memory or a change in eBay's calculation for SCO's.

The key here is the distinction between the runner-up's  "max bid" and and their eBay-calculated auto-bid. If "the amount the runner-up bid on the item" is taken as the auto-bid that eBay calculates on the basis of the 2nd-runner-up's maximum plus one minimum increment, then all is well and I agree with your statement.

If, on the other hand, eBay is sending out an offer equal to the runner-up's max bid, I would still say it's not a good deal, because that could be much higher than the 2nd runner-up's max plus one minimum increment.

Mike

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We simply disagree and it doesn't work how you are wishing it worked, so you will have to deal with the rules as they currently exist.