"Riddle Me This" Why don't eBay add new start dates when rolling over GTC ?

[claude-collectibles]

I used to have over 1,000 listings per my store subscription I only keep about 800 so not to go over and be hit with those TRICKY fees. How does that help either of us. Just the other day over 200 listings got relisted under this head scratching policy when I stepped out for a bit so I had to end and relist them to get a new start date so that = 400 listings WOW ! (Who wants an old start date ~ looks like it has been around forever) Now I am out of my 1,000 listings and can't list any more without paying extra listing fees. (SO TIRED OF HAVING TO MONITOR MY LISTINGS THIS WAY)

I guess I will put all the new ones on a different site how unprofessional ! (They loose out not me)

What a Blessing that this is not the only selling platform out there !

Good Luck to all effected by thees horrible policies.

"They Will Not Stop Me From Making Money Just Making Them Money" 

[pburn]

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@muskingum_relics wrote:

maybe Jordan should try to use it himself ! And also try to stay in business with the stupid mangled payment nonsense as well ! Both GTC and mangled payments are a joke just not funny ones !!

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So, you're unhappy with GTC and you're unhappy with Managed Payments. Sounds like you're generally dissatisfied with being an eBay seller.

[pburn]

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@claude-collectibles wrote:

WOW ! That is long winded ! Wasn't looking for an Hour lecture but thanks for your time. 😂

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I know. So annoying to have sellers clutter up a good rant with facts. Especially five whole paragraphs of them! Whew! I'm exhausted! 🥱

[luckythewinner]

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@claude-collectibles wrote:

Who wants an old start date ~ looks like it has been around forever 

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When you have a listing that has been around forever without selling, eBay does not want to mislead buyers about how old the listing is. IMHO ebay is doing buyers a favor by identifying those stale listings with little demand. 

You clearly knew what was necessary to get a new start date, but you chose to step out for a bit and let them roll over. And once they rolled over you chose to burn 200 more of your free insertions just to change their start dates. 

[3eyedfishcatcher]

They started doing this so that when searches are sorted by newest the older listings will be further down the list or completely hidden on broad searched thus creating the forced need to use promoted listings to get your items moved up the list with a additional fee.

[div_style]

General reply to topic:

I like GTC listings for items that I have multiples of, which actually sell.  A buyer can be reassured when they come across a listing that has sold over 1200 times.  And items that continually sell stay near the top of best match search.

[pburn]

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@3eyedfishcatcher wrote:

They started doing this so that when searches are sorted by newest the older listings will be further down the list or completely hidden on broad searched thus creating the forced need to use promoted listings to get your items moved up the list with a additional fee.

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And as a corollary to your post, I have a number of saved searches for which I receive emails when a seller creates a new listing that meets my criteria.

There's nothing worse* than getting emails for listings I've already seen, just because the seller has ended and relisted the item. Over and over.

I can't speak to promoted listings. I use the Adblock Plus extension, which filters out all promoted listings.

*Well, war is worse. Global pandemics are worse. Stuff like that.

[3eyedfishcatcher]

The listing date not refreshing on there list date is not new this was done about 1 year before the drop of 30 day listings and forces GTC on all fixed price listings. The last CEO said it was because they want fresh new listings offering new deal each month . The real reason is they want items to become less visible each month they are listed so you will have to promote your items to get the proper visibility. When a older item is promoted the ad placement will always be found 1st before the actual listing so if a buyer clicks and buys greed bay gets the ad fee, Listings with in the 1st 30 days of listing are more likely to be placed above the ad in a search result. With the removal of net neutrality selling better search result placement is legal manipulating the system so you have to pay for search result placement is legal.

[southern*sweet*tea]

If you sell long tail items to a small set of buyers, GTC is great. In order to sell, my stuff has to be available all the time non-stop.  GTC has been great so far for me.

But, for those that sell higher demand items - in other words, stuff that doesn't take a year to sell lol - I can see where GTC might cause some issues.  Perhaps some of those buyers would search using newly listed.

That said, I personally think most buyers (average, run of the mill folks)  will search either by the default best match, or they will sort by lowest price, and in that case GTC makes no difference.

[nobody*s_perfect]

"There's nothing worse* than getting emails for listings I've already seen, just because the seller has ended and relisted the item. Over and over."

A seller like that would end up excluded from my searches.

[yuzuha]

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@pburn wrote:

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@3eyedfishcatcher wrote:

They started doing this so that when searches are sorted by newest the older listings will be further down the list or completely hidden on broad searched thus creating the forced need to use promoted listings to get your items moved up the list with a additional fee.

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And as a corollary to your post, I have a number of saved searches for which I receive emails when a seller creates a new listing that meets my criteria.

There's nothing worse* than getting emails for listings I've already seen, just because the seller has ended and relisted the item. Over and over.

I can't speak to promoted listings. I use the Adblock Plus extension, which filters out all promoted listings.

*Well, war is worse. Global pandemics are worse. Stuff like that.

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Exactly. If I've seen something in my saved search, I already know it's there, and if I didn't buy it, it's because I didn't want it for whatever reason. I don't want to have it shoved in my face over and over again because I don't want it and I don't want to keep seeing it.

[cynthealee2]

I've used GTC since I started selling in 2006. I love them, and buyers love them... Search engines CRAVE them.  Since 75% or more of the traffic to my store comes from Google, Bing, and the like I want my listings to show there.   IF I listed and then ended them every month they would never show on those search engines.   I use them for 90% of my store for multiple item listings and single item listings.   Buyers love being able to put them in their watch list and come back to them a year later and buy more without having to hunt all over the place for them. (Buyers have emailed and told me this on the bracelets and other kids things I used to sell)

I usually have to pull them once a year or so when eBay messes up the inventory count on the MVL.  A glitch they have known about since before I started selling on here.

I do apologize the the GPK card buyers cause this year I've had to pull and relist the suckers 4 times and working on redoing them for the 5th time.  For some reason different listings (different ones each time) are reverting to original counts when they renew and not tracking when a card or few have sold during the month.

Just sold 415 cards to one buyer... and had to refund a card cause eBay messed up the count again, thus starting the 5th time we've done inventory on these cards and recreated over 200 listings.  Had that card sold to a single card buyer I would have had a "cancel" on my Dashboard through no fault of my own.   I wouldn't have to pull and relist them if I could just adjust the inventory in the listing itself... but can't do that because of the way Auctiva and eBay put the pics in the listings.

TL:DR  I love GTC and wouldn't use anything else, if you don't like them or want to unlist your items every month I suggest using a 3rd party lister, and calendar reminders on your phone to warn you each month to pull them early. But by doing so you are pretty much guaranteeing you are not going to show on larger search engines thus losing money every month.

[dhbookds]

Just for information..........I sell quite a lot of "old" listings..........as Southern says........long tail stuff can take a while waiting for a buyer to pull the trigger........  If the item doesn't sell in 30 days, I, for me, presume it's going to take a while....and just let the listings run.......  As soon as I think about "redoing" one.......it sells, lol...... 

just my experience.