how can a bidder in a country I don't ship to bid on my item?

[tatertot2u57]

 I have it in my pref. to NOT ship  where the  ebay users id says he's from. 

He's winning the auction  now with only about 1 hour to go..oh my, 

 what if he wins?

[jonathankirkland]

Then you can cancel the transaction using "problem with buyers address" and you won't have to worry about receiving a defect.

But that won't solve the underlying problem of why this is happening. Are you certain you've set the exclusion correctly?

Also I have read about buyers who are in one country but have a ship to address in another country that somehow allows them to get around this... not sure if that is the case here.

[emerald40]

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@tatertot2u57 wrote:

 I have it in my pref. to NOT ship  where the  ebay users id says he's from. 

He's winning the auction  now with only about 1 hour to go..oh my, 

 what if he wins?

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Probably using a reshipper.

Do you block all international transactions or just certain countries.

If you are US only, What you can do right now is block non US paypal accounts and non US funds.

He may win, but he cannot pay.

Then you can cancel problem with address.

If you block certain countries, then you need to make sure your parameters are set correctly.  But again if he is using a reshipper that i how he is getting around it.

[tatertot2u57]

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@jonathankirkland wrote:

Then you can cancel the transaction using "problem with buyers address" and you won't have to worry about receiving a defect.

But that won't solve the underlying problem of why this is happening. Are you certain you've set the exclusion correctly?

Also I have read about buyers who are in one country but have a ship to address in another country that somehow allows them to get around this... not sure if that is the case here.

"But that won't solve the underlying problem of why this is happening. Are you certain you've set the exclusion correctly?"

Thanks but yes I'm sure, just double and triple checked it. 

I suspect you're right about the buyers in one country having it shipped to another, I am USA ship only. 

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[castlemagicmemories]

He may use a reshipper in the US and that is how he can bid.

[phono_0490xxxxxx]

Whats the  problem though?

If it's a forwarding agent in the US, you are shipping to a US address.

It's illogical to suggest there is a 'problem with address'.

Fact of the matter is, your INR liability ends when it arrives at that US address... and so does any expensive return shipping if it turns out to be a MBG claim against you and your responsible for postage cost back.

It turns out your better off sending to a a certified shipping agent than using eBay promoted GSP in many ways.

And chances are there is less risk of a capricious return from an International buyer using a forwarding agent than a US based buyer, simply because the expensive cost of return is paid for by the buyer.

Is there some other reason why you object to selling to a non-US buyer?  

Their money is as good as yours.

[missjen831]

But have you blocked buyers with a primary address in countries you don't ship to? if you didn't do that, anyone can bid regardless of their location. If you did use that block then his primary address is in the US.

If he wins and provides a US address, you can't cancel & avoid a defect.

[luckythewinner]

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@tatertot2u57 wrote:

 I have it in my pref. to NOT ship  where the  ebay users id says he's from. 

He's winning the auction  now with only about 1 hour to go..oh my, 

 what if he wins?

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You cannot block a buyer based on where he lives. 

You can only block a buyer based on where he wants the item to be shipped. 

Since this buyer has not won the item, you have no idea what address he wants you to ship it to. 

 I am in the USA but I have shipping addresses in the UK, Norway, Australia and Japan. 

[phono_0490xxxxxx]

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@missjen831 wrote:

But have you blocked buyers with a primary address in countries you don't ship to? if you didn't do that, anyone can bid regardless of their location. If you did use that block then his primary address is in the US.

If he wins and provides a US address, you can't cancel & avoid a defect.

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Registration address: Melbourne, Australia.

#1 Primary delivery address: Melbourne, VIC Australia.

#2 Other delivery address: Sydney, NSW Australia.

#3 Other delivery address: Bunbury, WA  Australia.

#4 Other delivery address: Portland, OR  United States.

I can add a Dundee, Scotland  United Kingdom to that too.

It takes about  10 seconds to change an 'Other' to 'Primary delivery address. 

I change the delivery address and I'm good to go on listings that preclude delivery to Australia.

There is nothing 'dodgy' about this.  The shipping agent and service level is second to none.

The sellers liability for INR ends when it arrives signed for at the nominated address.

If a seller looks at ID info when I've bid or sent question it shows the Registration address.

[and yes, the registration address is changeable too... this account was initially a Western Australia address]

So what, the capacity to bid is governed by the delivery address.

There is absolutely NO 'problem with [my] address' to warrant a sale cancellation in accordance to ebay 'rules'.

If I 'win' the seller can cancel if they lie, trying to avoid the defect by claiming a 'problem with address'. 

They can also lie to have the deserved Negative Feedback removed, based on the same lie.

Which reminds me... time to contact CS again because I want to re-post that FB, removed due to compound lies and an idiot CS rep.

[7606dennis]

It is possible that he has a US shipping address, in which case, he can bid on your items.  

[rainbowcolorz]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

He may use a reshipper in the US and that is how he can bid.

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@castlemagicmemories, but a seller would not know if a bidder is using a reshipper, correct?

I have set in my eBay preferences exclusions -- I only ship to US cities.   I do not use Global Shipping.  

At this moment I have a person bidding on an item of mine and when I checked her ID it says she is "Based in Trinidad and Tobago".

I've read here on a few occasions that sellers can go to their PayPal and block payments that are not in US currency.

I went to my PP and saw under payments from other countries : 

Yes, accept and convert

No, deny payments

Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment

I never realixed until just now that mine has always been set to: Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment.

In all the years I'm selling on eBay I have never been asked by anyone (buyers or PayPal) if I want to accept or deny a payment from another country.

Need I be concerned about this bidder if she wins and then pays somehow? 

I know if she wins and it says she has paid I will immediately go to my PayPal to see what's up.

[7606dennis]

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@rainbowcolorz wrote:

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

He may use a reshipper in the US and that is how he can bid.

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@castlemagicmemories, but a seller would not know if a bidder is using a reshipper, correct?

I have set in my eBay preferences exclusions -- I only ship to US cities.   I do not use Global Shipping.  

At this moment I have a person bidding on an item of mine and when I checked her ID it says she is "Based in Trinidad and Tobago".

I've read here on a few occasions that sellers can go to their PayPal and block payments that are not in US currency.

I went to my PP and saw under payments from other countries : 

Yes, accept and convert

No, deny payments

Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment

I never realixed until just now that mine has always been set to: Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment.

In all the years I'm selling on eBay I have never been asked by anyone (buyers or PayPal) if I want to accept or deny a payment from another country.

Need I be concerned about this bidder if she wins and then pays somehow? 

I know if she wins and it says she has paid I will immediately go to my PayPal to see what's up.

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If one chooses to block non-USA PayPal accounts or accounts in currency one does not hold, the buyer in another country with a US shipping address would still be able to bid on obe's items.  Of course, they would not be able to pay and can have UID's opened against them and receive strikes against their accounts.  If one chooses to put on those PayPal blocks, I suggest putting a disclaimer in one's listing or TOS to advise potential international buyers.

[phono_0490xxxxxx]

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@rainbowcolorz wrote:

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

He may use a reshipper in the US and that is how he can bid.

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I have set in my eBay preferences exclusions -- I only ship to US cities.   I do not use Global Shipping.  < OK... so anyone with a delivery address outside of your exclusions can't bid.

A page comes up stating doesn't ship to your location if you make a bid.

 At this moment I have a person bidding on an item of mine and when I checked her ID it says she is "Based in Trinidad and Tobago". < OK.. this member has a delivery address where you do ship to. ie. as permitted by your listing settings.

... but a seller would not know if a bidder is using a reshipper, correct? < Does it matter?  You now know that the bidder has a delivery address that's is permitted by your listing settings, AND that 'problem with address'  is not a defect free option if you cancel the sale to anyone with a valid US postal address.

I've read here on a few occasions that sellers can go to their PayPal and block payments that are not in US currency. < This is irrelivant if you only list items on ebay in US $$$.

I went to my PP and saw under payments from other countries :

Yes, accept and convert

No, deny payments

Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment

I never realixed until just now that mine has always been set to: Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment. < being the default setting.

In all the years I'm selling on eBay I have never been asked by anyone (buyers or PayPal) if I want to accept or deny a payment from another country. < That's because your listings must have always been in US $$$ and via eBay payments sytems the buyers has had to pay in US $$$... thats by using the PayPal converter or their Bank or Credit Card conversion - the sender of funds pays for the conversion fee, NOT YOU.

If you list an item on the UK site using their currency [GBP] expect to see payment in GBP.... or on the Australian site in AU $$$ you get payment in AU $$$.   In this case YOU PAY for conversion to US$$$ fee, unless you use the funds to buy goods on those sites as GBP or AU $$$.

Need I be concerned about this bidder if she wins and then pays somehow? < NO - If this bidder 'wins' and pays an invoice that includes shipping to a US address, what is there to be concerned about? If it goes to a shipping agent you have less to worry about in terms of International return shipping fees under MBG terms.

I know if she wins and it says she has paid I will immediately go to my PayPal to see what's up.

< and you will no doubt find a payment as per invoice in US $$$.  Just make sure you pack well and include a printed copy of the paid Invoice and send it USPS 1st Class sign for / tracking.... as you would any other US buyer. 

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[rainbowcolorz]

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@7606dennis wrote:

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@rainbowcolorz wrote:

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

He may use a reshipper in the US and that is how he can bid.

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@castlemagicmemories, but a seller would not know if a bidder is using a reshipper, correct?

I have set in my eBay preferences exclusions -- I only ship to US cities.   I do not use Global Shipping.  

At this moment I have a person bidding on an item of mine and when I checked her ID it says she is "Based in Trinidad and Tobago".

I've read here on a few occasions that sellers can go to their PayPal and block payments that are not in US currency.

I went to my PP and saw under payments from other countries : 

Yes, accept and convert

No, deny payments

Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment

I never realixed until just now that mine has always been set to: Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment.

In all the years I'm selling on eBay I have never been asked by anyone (buyers or PayPal) if I want to accept or deny a payment from another country.

Need I be concerned about this bidder if she wins and then pays somehow? 

I know if she wins and it says she has paid I will immediately go to my PayPal to see what's up.

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If one chooses to block non-USA PayPal accounts or accounts in currency one does not hold, the buyer in another country with a US shipping address would still be able to bid on obe's items.  Of course, they would not be able to pay and can have UID's opened against them and receive strikes against their accounts.  If one chooses to put on those PayPal blocks, I suggest putting a disclaimer in one's listing or TOS to advise potential international buyers.

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@7606dennis, thanks.  I don't have any PayPal blocks but I put in all of my listings that I ONLY ship to US cities.  

[rainbowcolorz]

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@phono_0490xxxxxx wrote:

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@rainbowcolorz wrote:

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

He may use a reshipper in the US and that is how he can bid.

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 ..

I have set in my eBay preferences exclusions -- I only ship to US cities.   I do not use Global Shipping.  < OK... so anyone with a delivery address outside of your exclusions can't bid.

A page comes up stating doesn't ship to your location if you make a bid.

 At this moment I have a person bidding on an item of mine and when I checked her ID it says she is "Based in Trinidad and Tobago". < OK.. this member has a delivery address where you do ship to. ie. as permitted by your listing settings.

... but a seller would not know if a bidder is using a reshipper, correct? < Does it matter?  You now know that the bidder has a delivery address that's is permitted by your listing settings, AND that 'problem with address'  is not a defect free option if you cancel the sale to anyone with a valid US postal address.

I've read here on a few occasions that sellers can go to their PayPal and block payments that are not in US currency. < This is irrelivant if you only list items on ebay in US $$$.

I went to my PP and saw under payments from other countries :

Yes, accept and convert

No, deny payments

Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment

I never realixed until just now that mine has always been set to: Ask me, decide accepting or denying each individual payment. < being the default setting.

In all the years I'm selling on eBay I have never been asked by anyone (buyers or PayPal) if I want to accept or deny a payment from another country. < That's because your listings must have always been in US $$$ and via eBay payments sytems the buyers has had to pay in US $$$... thats by using the PayPal converter or their Bank or Credit Card conversion - the sender of funds pays for the conversion fee, NOT YOU.

If you list an item on the UK site using their currency [GBP] expect to see payment in GBP.... or on the Australian site in AU $$$ you get payment in AU $$$.   In this case YOU PAY for conversion to US$$$ fee, unless you use the funds to buy goods on those sites as GBP or AU $$$.

Need I be concerned about this bidder if she wins and then pays somehow? < NO - If this bidder 'wins' and pays an invoice that includes shipping to a US address, what is there to be concerned about? If it goes to a shipping agent you have less to worry about in terms of International return shipping fees under MBG terms.

I know if she wins and it says she has paid I will immediately go to my PayPal to see what's up.

< and you will no doubt find a payment as per invoice in US $$$.  Just make sure you pack well and include a printed copy of the paid Invoice and send it USPS 1st Class sign for / tracking.... as you would any other US buyer. 

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@phono_0490xxxxxx, thanks for the info.   As per your last paragraph --- I always ship USPS First Class  for items that weigh between 4 ozs and 15.99 ozs or Priority Mail Padded Flat Rate Envelope when someone buys numerous items, all with tracking but I never ask any of my buyers to SIGN for anything (since I no longer sell anything I cannot afford to lose such as gold/diamonds/bullion).