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evry1nositswindy · ‎06-24-2019

I know we have all been talking about GTC and how it affects our accounts. The reasoning from eBay was that it kept the item # the same so it would be 'current' on google searches. If I look at my traffic report, VERY few impressions/sales come from outside of eBay itself. Here is a picture of it. Does anyone show that their views from outside of eBay are statistically significant (5%)?

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zamo-zuan · ‎06-25-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
@tunicaslot

BTW, IMHO if he had posted something like this but in support of Ebay. Meaning saying something like Ebay had less issues than the average large website. You and others would be all over it saying how wrong that statement is and maybe even asking for more information. But it if is a statement that is in against Ebay, you don't ask for more info as it supports how you are currently seeing Ebay. I'm not saying you are wrong about anything in particular, right now there are many sellers that are very angry at Ebay for a variety of reasons. I'm just giving my observations.

I have personally came to these forums many times when eBay has done something right to give them credit. Likewise, when they do something that is wrong, I give them credit for that as well. And most of all, when I see people being misled on here, I try to set the record straight, because much of what is said here is false information in defense of eBay.

Many of the forum users here were supporting eBay in the past. I recognize many of the same names that weren't yet convinced a year ago. But now they have seen the same issues I was bringing up then. This is why they're against eBay. Because as time passes, more and more people are seeing it with their own eyes.

Honestly, your statement is the opposite of the truth. Reality is, if you find a problem with eBay, you have much more of a burden to prove yourself on these forums.

I'm not sure where you're seeing more of a burden of proof against eBay. Just look at any post of people complaining about WELL KNOWN ISSUES on this forum. You still see naysayers as the first responders. The same names that pop up in every topic.

I've given direct evidence of problems and STILL run in to posts telling me it's not true.. The same people who asked for evidence, suddenly get quiet, and then go to another post saying "nobody has ever provided evidence".

It's selective ignoring. Coincidence? Especially at this point when the issues have grown beyond a level that eBay can hide them? The same exact names that have been defending eBay the whole time and claiming to be sellers themselves... somehow didn't run in to any of these issues?

If you're lucky enough to have not run in to these issues, I'm honestly glad for you. But as a store who has a very large bulk of sales and has personal experience with almost every issue people bring up on this forum, it's extremely discouraging to try to get them addressed. Because you run in to a constant gauntlet of doubters spreading lies.

I'm sorry to say but it's the opposite of what you describe.

Furthermore, everyone has seen eBay's tech issues at this point. All you had to do is check the sellers hub sales graph in the last few days.

Beyond that, it's impossible to dispute the fact that the tech team is outsourced with no supervision by the US staff. Same with the catalog team. There's no excuse for that, it's poor management, poor quality control.

And this is coming from someone who is a lead of our software design team that makes our own web based software that handles stock management, eCommerce orders, warehouse management, packing, shipping, etc. I'm familiar with the entire software design process.

We don't only have all the evidence I show here on the forums. We have years of logs in our software that show the differences.

This is also how I've done eBay's job many times and reported the issues to them.

EBay has those logs too. So why, I ask, haven't they actually done anything about the issues?

That's the reason people are upset.

One more thing I would just like to say... you can tell who's a real seller here or not on eBay. It's very easy. They're the ones that have their lives at stake. That's why they're upset. You have to look in to the eyes of good workers and tell them they don't have a job anymore, when eBay straight up tells you they don't have a department to handle the type of issue you're having.

The people who are upset here? They have every right to be because they have peoples lives in their hands, and have to watch peoples lives decline due to no fault of their own, because eBay isn't running things professionally enough to even handle the issues that are happening.

mam98031 · ‎06-25-2019

@penny_match_kid wrote:
Not being able to end a listing unless you're physically present is 100% Ebay's fault. I won't even call it fault. It's intentional and designed solely to take money from its patrons. I will tell you something. When a business is at the point where it has to trick, mistreat,or otherwise intentionally make things difficult for its patrons, in order to generate revenue, that business is going to soon fail. It's really not something any rational person can or would try to defend. The writing is on the wall for Ebay as we know it.

It is by design. I know it is more than difficult for many sellers and for some next to impossible to learn to work with. I really do respect that and understand how frustrating it must be.

It isn't a "trick" of any kind. Ebay feels they had sound business reasons for making this change. Because many of us may not agree with their reasons does not change the fact that they have them. I simply means we don't agree. Ebay is knows that there will be some sellers that just won't or can't make the cross over to GTC. But they feel the change is the best for the site overall. So here we are.

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zamo-zuan · ‎06-25-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
@penny_match_kid wrote:
Not being able to end a listing unless you're physically present is 100% Ebay's fault. I won't even call it fault. It's intentional and designed solely to take money from its patrons. I will tell you something. When a business is at the point where it has to trick, mistreat,or otherwise intentionally make things difficult for its patrons, in order to generate revenue, that business is going to soon fail. It's really not something any rational person can or would try to defend. The writing is on the wall for Ebay as we know it.

It isn't a "trick" of any kind. Ebay feels they had sound business reasons for making this change. Because many of us may not agree with their reasons does not change the fact that they have them. I simply means we don't agree. Ebay is knows that there will be some sellers that just won't or can't make the cross over to GTC. But they feel the change is the best for the site overall. So here we are.

EBay is in no way above "tricks".

Try selling some items that have absolutely no competition on eBay. They will just happen to tell you that the trending rate in sponsored listings is HIGHER or LOWER varied by items that are not even yet identified by eBay or the catalog!

How could that be explained by anything other than a "trick"? To claim new products have a trending rate varying from 4.2% to 4.9%?

Of course the first reaction might say "Oh, that's probably based on the category average". That stands until you find many categories only have 1 or 2 competitors who sponsor an item (it actually lists ALL sellers who use sponsored listings in the ad's section if there aren't enough).

Here's a fun trick you can do. Message them out of curiosity to ask what their rate is.

Funny, how it's much less than the trending rate.

This is besides the point that in my first example, it couldn't possibly be varying by 0.7% based on any sort of algorithm or data for products it HAS NO DATA ON.

I'd challenge anyone to come up for any explanation of how the sponsored listings work that is NOT a "trick"?

(Beyond the fact that Wenig claims the 'program is one of the highest sellers satisfaction'... which is obviously a blatant LIE. Or should I say... TRICK?!)

mam98031 · ‎06-25-2019

@zamo-zuan wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@penny_match_kid wrote:
Not being able to end a listing unless you're physically present is 100% Ebay's fault. I won't even call it fault. It's intentional and designed solely to take money from its patrons. I will tell you something. When a business is at the point where it has to trick, mistreat,or otherwise intentionally make things difficult for its patrons, in order to generate revenue, that business is going to soon fail. It's really not something any rational person can or would try to defend. The writing is on the wall for Ebay as we know it.

It isn't a "trick" of any kind. Ebay feels they had sound business reasons for making this change. Because many of us may not agree with their reasons does not change the fact that they have them. I simply means we don't agree. Ebay is knows that there will be some sellers that just won't or can't make the cross over to GTC. But they feel the change is the best for the site overall. So here we are.
EBay is in no way above "tricks".

Try selling some items that have absolutely no competition on eBay. They will just happen to tell you that the trending rate in sponsored listings is HIGHER or LOWER varied by items that are not even yet identified by eBay or the catalog!

How could that be explained by anything other than a "trick"? To claim new products have a trending rate varying from 4.2% to 4.9%?

Of course the first reaction might say "Oh, that's probably based on the category average". That stands until you find many categories only have 1 or 2 competitors who sponsor an item (it actually lists ALL sellers who use sponsored listings in the ad's section if there aren't enough).

Here's a fun trick you can do. Message them out of curiosity to ask what their rate is.

Funny, how it's much less than the trending rate.

This is besides the point that in my first example, it couldn't possibly be varying by 0.7% based on any sort of algorithm or data for products it HAS NO DATA ON.

I'd challenge anyone to come up for any explanation of how the sponsored listings work that is NOT a "trick"?

(Beyond the fact that Wenig claims the 'program is one of the highest sellers satisfaction'... which is obviously a blatant LIE. Or should I say... TRICK?!)

This is so tiring. I'll say this and then you guys can just have at it. I did NOT say Ebay isn't above a trick or tricking someone. I don't know why it is important to twist what I say to appear to be something never intended or said.

I was SPECIFICALLY speaking to GTC with another poster. I made NO BLANKET statement. I did not speak to ANYTHING but GTC and I stand by what I said. GTC is NOT a trick by Ebay.

Do with that what you feel necessary.

@zamo-zuan

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turquoisetulips · ‎06-25-2019

The true reason for GTC is that they force everyone to use the algorithms now. 30 day listings avoided the algorithms and thus had an advantage in search. zamo -zuan

That's it in a nutshell . It's a shame that the people in control fail to see it .. Meanwhile their bread winners are losing views and thus a lot of sales . Tulips

zamo-zuan · ‎06-26-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
This is so tiring. I'll say this and then you guys can just have at it. I did NOT say Ebay isn't above a trick or tricking someone. I don't know why it is important to twist what I say to appear to be something never intended or said.

I was SPECIFICALLY speaking to GTC with another poster. I made NO BLANKET statement. I did not speak to ANYTHING but GTC and I stand by what I said. GTC is NOT a trick by Ebay.

Do with that what you feel necessary.
@zamo-zuan

First off, I can understand the sentiments of it feeling tiring on here if it's difficult for others to get the point you're trying to make, so apologies for that. I'm not a fan of anyone feeling like their words are being twisted regardless of the side of the discussion.

To give some insight, I gave some examples outside of GTC, but the same concept applies to GTC specifically as well. It might not be a direct "money grab", but it's still manipulating the site in ways to harm the site, and that's contradictory to things you specifically said in that message.

"But they feel the change is the best for the site overall."

The above quoted part is the actual problem. Here's the thing: their actions recently, including GTC, are steps that they *know* are not the best moves for the site. They are sticking to their guns anyway and making moves that directly harm eBay as a marketplace to make company profit at the users expense.

They're aware of the issues with their algorithms. I personally delivered the evidence to them in person. Yet they still went ahead with the changes to expose everyone to the broken algorithms.

They're aware not all items are showed up in search. They had me take screenshots and email it to them personally after meeting them in person as well. They still went ahead with the changes even though this issue isn't fixed.

Which is why I led to the sponsored listings. I'll be first to admit this part is not a direct reply to your quote. But they're aware of sponsored listings bringing up the prices on the site as a whole. They're aware of our feedback, and understood the sentiments and told us we weren't the first to share them. This is another thing I personally said to them in person and showed the numbers. Could you imagine the feeling, when after doing that, you see the CEO of the company claiming the program has such high seller approval? High approval for a feature that has hurt sellers and made the entire site less competitive?

We can get in to a semantics discussion, but this is just some of many examples of them harming the site for the *companies* gain. And many of those are specifically related to GTC.

At the end of the day, they're willing to put their heads down and take the hit as they stick to their changes. But I don't think any of us should make the mistake of believing they think the changes are "best for the site". That's the root of much of the discontent here; They're doing changes that are NOT best for the site, and rather are sucking the blood out of the site to pad the stock reports, in order to hide issues they're aware of.

ms.rodriguez* · ‎06-26-2019

That is exactly what you have to do. I have yet to sell anything after 15 days with the exception of 2 or 3 items and that was because someone clicked the best offer and I agreed just to get rid of the items. Try to schedule items in groups to allow yourself a free night or two off. I will NOT have to end anything for the next 4 days. I start all of mine late at night , after 10:30 PM EST. Goodluck.

ms.rodriguez* · ‎06-26-2019

If you are talking to me , I don't want a store. My brother has one and barely gets an offers. I have gotten many promo offers and frankly , I have not had the need to have a store. Also , if I recall correctly, if you have a store , you have to pay to schedule a listing. Correct me if I am wrong but I will Make this posting name a seller account BEFORE I pay ebay a cent to schedule an item. I can easily get another name to post here.

mam98031 · ‎06-26-2019

@zamo-zuan wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
This is so tiring. I'll say this and then you guys can just have at it. I did NOT say Ebay isn't above a trick or tricking someone. I don't know why it is important to twist what I say to appear to be something never intended or said.

I was SPECIFICALLY speaking to GTC with another poster. I made NO BLANKET statement. I did not speak to ANYTHING but GTC and I stand by what I said. GTC is NOT a trick by Ebay.

Do with that what you feel necessary.
@zamo-zuan
First off, I can understand the sentiments of it feeling tiring on here if it's difficult for others to get the point you're trying to make, so apologies for that. I'm not a fan of anyone feeling like their words are being twisted regardless of the side of the discussion.

To give some insight, I gave some examples outside of GTC, but the same concept applies to GTC specifically as well. It might not be a direct "money grab", but it's still manipulating the site in ways to harm the site, and that's contradictory to things you specifically said in that message.

"But they feel the change is the best for the site overall."

The above quoted part is the actual problem. Here's the thing: their actions recently, including GTC, are steps that they *know* are not the best moves for the site. They are sticking to their guns anyway and making moves that directly harm eBay as a marketplace to make company profit at the users expense.

They're aware of the issues with their algorithms. I personally delivered the evidence to them in person. Yet they still went ahead with the changes to expose everyone to the broken algorithms.

They're aware not all items are showed up in search. They had me take screenshots and email it to them personally after meeting them in person as well. They still went ahead with the changes even though this issue isn't fixed.

Which is why I led to the sponsored listings. I'll be first to admit this part is not a direct reply to your quote. But they're aware of sponsored listings bringing up the prices on the site as a whole. They're aware of our feedback, and understood the sentiments and told us we weren't the first to share them. This is another thing I personally said to them in person and showed the numbers. Could you imagine the feeling, when after doing that, you see the CEO of the company claiming the program has such high seller approval? High approval for a feature that has hurt sellers and made the entire site less competitive?

We can get in to a semantics discussion, but this is just some of many examples of them harming the site for the *companies* gain. And many of those are specifically related to GTC.

At the end of the day, they're willing to put their heads down and take the hit as they stick to their changes. But I don't think any of us should make the mistake of believing they think the changes are "best for the site". That's the root of much of the discontent here; They're doing changes that are NOT best for the site, and rather are sucking the blood out of the site to pad the stock reports, in order to hide issues they're aware of.

The POINT was I made a SPECIFIC comment about a SPECIFIC subject. I do not need to be schooled in the ways of Ebay. I'm not new nor am I ill-informed. "Insight" isn't necessary. Nothing in your previous post was being discussed nor had I made ANY comment about them. There are endless subjects and insights. I was speaking to ONE specific thing, period.

If you have read many of the threads regarding GTC, it is hard to have the take away that it is a "money grab" since the vast majority of the sellers that have issues with it stay within their monthly allotment of free listings.

It is your opinion and that of others that Ebay is harming the site with this move. Ebay doesn't share that view. I honestly don't know who is wrong. I've used GTC for years. It works fine for me. But I can understand and respect how it doesn't work for others. I'm not at all sold this was the right move by Ebay but the fact is they did do it and it is something we all have to deal with. We each have to decide for ourselves what is best for us moving forward.

This isn't a discussion about "semantics". It never was. What I said in my post you initially responded to was clear and on a single subject. You wanted to make it appear to be more of a blanket statement and it wash't. That isn't semantics.

"At the end of the day, they're willing to put their heads down and take the hit as they stick to their changes." Because they think that it will pay off. IDK if it will. Only time will tell. But in the meantime I am more than happy to assist any member that would like a little help in trying to figure out how to survive this change on Ebay.

"But I don't think any of us should make the mistake of believing they think the changes are "best for the site"." I'm not sure how valid this is since they have said it, so what is not to believe. Just because you don't agree with it, I don't agree with it and many others don't agree with it, doesn't mean that it isn't what Ebay believes is the best move for the site moving forward. They may be wrong or we may be wrong. Only time will tell.

Getting upset over change is a normal human response. Sometimes it is because of the type of change it is and sometimes it is just because it is a change. Each change has its own set of circumstances and facts.

I wish Ebay's move to No Fault [my name, not theirs] returns last fall would have garnered such passion and concern as this topic has.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

mam98031 · ‎06-26-2019

@tunicaslot wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@tunicaslot wrote:
Tagging - but I use the internet frequently - I quit shopping at Sears.com because their site was slow - I quit shopping at Macys.com because their pages froze. Both have been fixed and don't present those issues anymore. There are sites - I've been unable to connect to but this is usually on black Friday when everyone is trying to get the deals and yet - there is not a week that goes by that I don't have a problem with Ebay - whether connecting, trying to upload photos, save a draft, change a price or just clicking Ebay to go to the home page and receiving the " It's not you - it's us" screen.

So no facts or data - just life's experiences and I know that we see threads here all the time complaining about these same problems.

Also buyers will still reach dead links on google - GTC did not eliminate those.
OMG Sears. Dang you hit the nail right on the head. That site was beyond annoying. I actually like Sears, but I too can not stand to use their site when it was slower than a snail. Macy's seem to be better now and I love their Friends and Family sales.

I am sorry to hear that you have so many problems with Ebay. I do not experience problems here anywhere near that frequently. I am NOT saying your issues don't happen, I'm simply saying that for me I do not have weekly basis.

I certainly have gotten those error messages that say "it's not you - it's us". I have found that 99.9% of the time if I hit the back button and try again, it functions fine. Of course it is annoying to be sure and I understand your frustration.

I'm not sure about your comment on "so no facts or data" as my question was directed to another poster that clearly stated "Most big web companies don't have the number of technical issues and glitches that eBay does. I fact, most big web companies have very few technical issues and glitches on their websites. " My question was just where that info came from. It wasn't meant to create a debate. It was merely a question. Nothing more.

"Also Buyers will still reach dead links on google - GTC did not eliminate those". I don't remember anyone saying they would. I know I didn't say it. That would not be logical at all. Of course you are correct as that is logical for anyone that is even just a little familiar with search engines. Once stuff is out there on the internet it may be there forever in some form.

Since this is a newer policy change on Ebay, as time goes on, there will be less and less dead links that rise to the top of a search someone does on an outside search engine. In time it will get better. We are just getting started on this journey.
@tunicaslot

BTW, IMHO if he had posted something like this but in support of Ebay. Meaning saying something like Ebay had less issues than the average large website. You and others would be all over it saying how wrong that statement is and maybe even asking for more information. But it if is a statement that is in against Ebay, you don't ask for more info as it supports how you are currently seeing Ebay. I'm not saying you are wrong about anything in particular, right now there are many sellers that are very angry at Ebay for a variety of reasons. I'm just giving my observations.
We can go back and forth on this all night. I'm neutral mam - call it like I see it. I applaud some things but am not afraid to call out the bad things. I'm just not all rah rah anymore - or as much, as I always think I saw the bad things but made excuses for them. You have your observations and I have mine - as I said I was tagging.

You asked the OP for more information - I gave you my two cents - like you an opinion - everyone has one.

I actually hate when people ask for links, facts, and data - especially when it's someone's personal opinion and then when they do supply what was requested - it's still shot down. I see that on the political boards all the time. Fact is some are just going to believe what they want to believe no matter what proof or evidence is presented. I try to stay neutral - I try not to make judgements without both sides of the story but I do form opinions due to my personal experiences - both good and bad. I'm no one's mouth piece and no one's puppet. I know I'll be getting a response as some people always have to have the last word - but I'm done here.

A simple one line question sure cause way more concern that it should have. I'm not sure about your "neutral" comment because if that were the case, why would you object to the question in the first place? This is a discussion board, to my knowledge asking questions is quite appropriate for this forum.

"You asked the OP for more information - I gave you my two cents - like you an opinion - everyone has one." Just for the record, I never asked the OP a question. Your objection came in when another poster made a statement and I asked where he got the info from. That is when you "neutral" opinions were shared. BTW, the question I asked the other poster was asked about a STATEMENT they made NOT an opinion they shared. I have no idea why you have chosen to make such a big deal of this.

It was a simple question, which the other poster chose to ignore, which is fine and it would have stayed unresponded to my and the other poster. But yet you felt it needed to be called out and made to be far more than it ever was without your "neutral" involvement.

I hope this puts this to rest. It just isn't a big deal nor should it ever have become one for either of us. It wasn't that important. You have great things to say and insight to offer. I'm just not sure why we went down this unnecessary road.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

pburn · ‎06-26-2019

@zamo-zuan wrote:
One more thing I would just like to say... you can tell who's a real seller here or not on eBay. It's very easy. They're the ones that have their lives at stake. That's why they're upset.

The people who are upset here? They have every right to be because they have peoples lives in their hands . . .

I think you'll find not everyone bashing eBay in this thread is a seller.

I'm not a seller, either, and I go out of my way to not comment on issues faced by sellers, such as GTC or search engine issues or shipping concerns, et al, because I have no first-hand knowledge of them. That, however, does not stop others from exposing the chip on their shoulder because eBay offended them in some way or another--refused to refund a transaction, or removed their inappropriate feedback, or whatever. They seek out every thread that's critical of eBay and post incendiary statements sure to inflame the discussion--no personal experiences, no first-hand knowledge, just vague references to how bad eBay is. Those people are here just to stir the pot.

Just make sure to be discriminating when doling out helpfuls or posting support of other members. Try to discern the difference between sellers who are experiencing actual issues from those who have never sold a thing on eBay and are here only to foment unrest.

greg5000 · ‎06-26-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
You missed the point entirely.

Which point? I think I covered the talking points.

abfabvintage · ‎06-26-2019

@pburn

Then they need to get rid of the Kudoing process. No one truly cares about it. Only some.

I ain't got the brains to make this up (Fantastic Beasts)

mam98031 · ‎06-26-2019

@abfabvintage wrote:
@pburn

Then they need to get rid of the Kudoing process. No one truly cares about it. Only some.

If used properly, it works great. It can help those seeking advice to see which poster has the support of the community. But sadly that isn't true on many threads. It often becomes more social than helpful.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

greg5000 · ‎06-26-2019

@tunicaslot wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@tunicaslot wrote:
Tagging - but I use the internet frequently - I quit shopping at Sears.com because their site was slow - I quit shopping at Macys.com because their pages froze. Both have been fixed and don't present those issues anymore. There are sites - I've been unable to connect to but this is usually on black Friday when everyone is trying to get the deals and yet - there is not a week that goes by that I don't have a problem with Ebay - whether connecting, trying to upload photos, save a draft, change a price or just clicking Ebay to go to the home page and receiving the " It's not you - it's us" screen.

So no facts or data - just life's experiences and I know that we see threads here all the time complaining about these same problems.

Also buyers will still reach dead links on google - GTC did not eliminate those.
OMG Sears. Dang you hit the nail right on the head. That site was beyond annoying. I actually like Sears, but I too can not stand to use their site when it was slower than a snail. Macy's seem to be better now and I love their Friends and Family sales.

I am sorry to hear that you have so many problems with Ebay. I do not experience problems here anywhere near that frequently. I am NOT saying your issues don't happen, I'm simply saying that for me I do not have weekly basis.

I certainly have gotten those error messages that say "it's not you - it's us". I have found that 99.9% of the time if I hit the back button and try again, it functions fine. Of course it is annoying to be sure and I understand your frustration.

I'm not sure about your comment on "so no facts or data" as my question was directed to another poster that clearly stated "Most big web companies don't have the number of technical issues and glitches that eBay does. I fact, most big web companies have very few technical issues and glitches on their websites. " My question was just where that info came from. It wasn't meant to create a debate. It was merely a question. Nothing more.

"Also Buyers will still reach dead links on google - GTC did not eliminate those". I don't remember anyone saying they would. I know I didn't say it. That would not be logical at all. Of course you are correct as that is logical for anyone that is even just a little familiar with search engines. Once stuff is out there on the internet it may be there forever in some form.

Since this is a newer policy change on Ebay, as time goes on, there will be less and less dead links that rise to the top of a search someone does on an outside search engine. In time it will get better. We are just getting started on this journey.
@tunicaslot

BTW, IMHO if he had posted something like this but in support of Ebay. Meaning saying something like Ebay had less issues than the average large website. You and others would be all over it saying how wrong that statement is and maybe even asking for more information. But it if is a statement that is in against Ebay, you don't ask for more info as it supports how you are currently seeing Ebay. I'm not saying you are wrong about anything in particular, right now there are many sellers that are very angry at Ebay for a variety of reasons. I'm just giving my observations.
We can go back and forth on this all night. I'm neutral mam - call it like I see it. I applaud some things but am not afraid to call out the bad things. I'm just not all rah rah anymore - or as much, as I always think I saw the bad things but made excuses for them. You have your observations and I have mine - as I said I was tagging.

You asked the OP for more information - I gave you my two cents - like you an opinion - everyone has one.

I actually hate when people ask for links, facts, and data - especially when it's someone's personal opinion and then when they do supply what was requested - it's still shot down. I see that on the political boards all the time. Fact is some are just going to believe what they want to believe no matter what proof or evidence is presented. I try to stay neutral - I try not to make judgements without both sides of the story but I do form opinions due to my personal experiences - both good and bad. I'm no one's mouth piece and no one's puppet. I know I'll be getting a response as some people always have to have the last word - but I'm done here.

Extremely well said!

I'm actually an advocate of eBay and want to see this company succeed. I spent 9 years having fun here and buying many items from many Sellers. That said, I will always post truthful and critical comments, especially when I see eBay doing many things incorrectly.

The best analogy is; if you have children and your child does something wrong, the best parenting is to let them know what they did wrong and guide them, to hopefully correct the negative. Most that post critical comments towards eBay are trying to help eBay become something better.