earch manipulation policy

[lindahf]

How does "Genuine "The Manufacturer Name" Part, this is not 3D Printed" get flagged and removed for Search Manipulation? I lost a bid and got charged $8.70 plus I don't like the feeling that I am trying to deceive someone or promote bad business practices . I am very upset

Re-listed the item with "Genuine "The Manufacturer Name" Part" and got flagged again for being in the wrong category. The category I used, 85% of the listings are for parts for this manufacturer, why couldn't I be a part of 85%

I got charged 3 listing fees of 25c. With this, Payment holds on items that I had positive feedback on or which have been delivered, International Fees on items that are shipped to a United States address, Fees on Sales Tax and shipping, the list goes on..... I am getting a bit feed up with eBay. I have been a member since 1998, 100% positive feedback

[dq3141]

Saying that your item is “not something” is considered search manipulation, because your item will appear in search results when people look for that “something”. Just take out “not 3D printed”.

[dogchow747]

What about OEM instead of "not 3D printed?

[stainlessenginecovers]

If the item is a 'genuine' part, there is NO need to state 'it's not xyz'

But... you should NEVER relist an item that has been removed for just about any reason.

Why can't you list in the same that 85% other do? Because you were caught. It's the 'All the others were doing 80mph as well officer..." 

[lindahf]

I know that NOW and still find it kind of hard to accept when I am trying to confirm that the item is a "Genuine" part and not done with a 3D printer. Also have you seem what happens when you search 3D printer? I don't think the term "3D printer" would give me an advantage? I repeat, I just wanted to inform buyer that my items is "Genuine" and manufactured by the original manufacturer rather someone printing this on a 3D printer.

WHY did eBay remove the listing when there was a bid on it? This is the first time I have received any kind of enforcement from eBay so why couldn't they let the listing remain and give me a few hours to correct it. They are loosing out on their fees as well as they have lost a bid. I am having to pay $8.70 fee as they are saying the listing was cancelled with a bid on it

It seem it is becoming common that other sellers are complaining about Payment holds, International Fees on items that are shipped to a United States address, Fees on Sales Tax and shipping, etc.....

[eunster1313]

@lindahf 

Search manipulation policy

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/search-manipulation-policy?id=4243&st=12&pos=2&q... 

[lindahf]

Good idea but I keep away from acronym as a lot of people don't know OEM, NOS, etc. also I selling to a Global market so these are not know all over the world. Still don't understand why not be straight forward and call it what it is "this is not 3D Printed". I must be getting old??????

[lindahf]

Did the search and read the listing policies on it and still don't understand why when I am trying to inform a buyer that is the Genuine deal is not allowed

[stainlessenginecovers]

It's common for people to NOT bother to research and read information that is readily transparent and available for them to know; which they should BEFORE they list an item for sale.

Why did they remove your listing after you had a bidder? They don't 'choose' when; once they find out, they end the listing. Doesn't matter if you had 5000 bidders and there was 3 minutes left on the auction. 

[eburtonlab]

Still don't understand why not be straight forward and call it what it is "this is not 3D Printed".

eBay only allows keywords in titles to refer to what the item is, not what it is not.

This prevents sellers from including keywords in titles that would cause that listing to appear in search results when users are searching for the part of the title after the not. After all, you do not want your listing to appear when someone searches for 3D-Printed part. Your title, as originally written, would appear in that search, though.

Plenty of sellers would advertise knock-offs as [brand name] not Rolex if they could get away with it to have their listing appear in a search for Rolex. That would be search manipulation.

That is not to say you were trying to get away with anything -- just that that is the reason for eBay's policy in this particular case.

[jayjaspersgarage]

If another seller has successfully  listed the exact same item and it is still active I think you might figure it out.

TLAs are common place today so using the TLA of NOS isn't going to throw anyone off.  OEM part is common as well and is probably the most common TLA in the automotive industry.

[dogchow747]

@lindahf 

I would think that most folks who would look at Nagra recorders and other audio gear know about the term OEM.

Certainly put that it not a printed part in your description,

I would be careful when using "Not" in search terms.

Some sellers used to make listings like

"Electro Voice microphone not Nagra Neumann Oktava"

to manipulate searches. That is part of the problem, and it is completely forbidden.

[na_833338]

Agree with this statement! 

I had a plain rock that I found in my backyard.  I was thinking of listing it as:  One genuine rock, this is not from Mars, Venus, Mercury, Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter, Saturn or the Moon.

Instead I decided to start a rock garden.  Didn't want to get flagged.

[lindahf]

Why didn't eBay customer service explain it that way "One genuine rock, this is not from Mars, Venus, Mercury, Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter, Saturn or the Moon." and it should be "Rock garden", now it make a lot more sense. I still think it was an innocent and don't know why they took down the listing when there was one bid on it. 

[coolections]

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@lindahf wrote:

Good idea but I keep away from acronym as a lot of people don't know OEM, NOS, etc. also I selling to a Global market so these are not know all over the world. till don't understand why not be straight forward and call it what it is "this is not 3D Printed". I must be getting old??????

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Yes you must be getting old. Calling something it is not 3d printed when it has nothing to do with an OEM part is manipulation no matter how you want to twist it.