eBay will move to a new "product based" shopping experience on a large scale this year to

[timemachine777]

to replace the current listings based experience - and it will become the only way to shop on eBay, according to the company's CEO Devin Wenig. From ecommercebytes.

https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2018/2/1519091217.html

"But Wenig described the biggest change coming to the site as a move from a listings based marketplace to a product based marketplace."

All you small sellers that don't sell new items. You can kiss your eBay business goodbye. New item small sellers, if you can't price compete with the big boys, your stuff will never be seen, until they all run out of inventory. Best price on everything on the site will be seen exclusively, the way the site will be laid out.

[timemachine777]

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@palmbeachclosetswrote:

What about Auctions? I want to sort through items myself.  Or, do they really want the wrecking ball on this one. 

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I just thought of something a few minutes ago. It's impossible to use a buy box for active auctions. If you have new or used items being bid on, what do you do, keep showing the one with the lowest bid? That would be nuts, as sellers use auction formats in hopes of getting lots of bids, and selling their item for as much as possible. I'm wondering what eBay is going to do about the auction format.

[coolections]

Why keep speculating on what "MAY" be. You have no clue so just wait it out and see. You're doing nothing but getting people all fired up for nothing at this point.

[ted_200]

I just thought of something a few minutes ago. It's impossible to use a buy box for active auctions.

I've got a picture of one of my active auctions on a Buy Box page, so it's not impossible.  Of course, it's the wrong product, but that's a different issue...

[timemachine777]

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@ted_200wrote:

I just thought of something a few minutes ago. It's impossible to use a buy box for active auctions.

I've got a picture of one of my active auctions on a Buy Box page, so it's not impossible.  Of course, it's the wrong product, but that's a different issue...

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Your kidding right?

[the_fancy_fox]

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:
Just sell for now while you can and don`t worry, never know what will happened in future and specially with Ebay. Many things can change.

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Meantime, as posted on another locked thread, keep an exit strategy in mind. Just in case.

If eBay goes the way of woolworth, fedco, white front.... sears... another venue will be more than happy to pick up the business. I have seen the uptick in business on the "elsewhere places" I sell.

I think there is way too much money out on the table to just throw it away but perhaps that is the plan. I have no idea what management is trying to do but the truth will be revealed sooner or later.

i gave up worrying about it, if you can't find " it " on eBay, google will find " it " for you wherever it happens to listed. 

[ted_200]

Your kidding right?

No, I'm not kidding, you haven't been paying attention Bueller!  eBay keeps associating my auction listings with the incorrect Product Page (when I intentionally did not use one), and then serving it to users on a Buy Box page for that product.

[ted_200]

Look!  I'm the "Best Pick"!

https://www.ebay.com/p/France-10-Centimes-1903/102180178?_trksid=p2047675.l2644#ProductDetails

Of course, none of those coins are even 10 Centimes.   I guess I "tricked" eBay by offering a lot of 10 of them... 

My Title (you can't see it there!):

FRANCE 25 Centimes 1903-1939 - Lot of 10 Different F-EF Coins, No Reserve!

[grasshopperx]

Emerald, I have like a perfect niche.  I sell high end dolls and have the nicest customers. I know them all very well. I just plopped a few items on here to feel out ebay and see if there were any other people interested out there. See If ebay will show my items, get any views etc etc.  Apparently not on this site. So with a click of a button I will move back to the other site.  Ready to go for good. And this time, I plan on taking most of my buying with me. Unless its only something I can purchase here. Then I will watch and see where everyone migrates too.  But they will. and yes, the other sites will grow fast. I wonder which site will get the most of the sellers.

[tunicaslot]

For the past 15 years - I only heard the doom and gloom on these forums with each change - In fact I was one of them wailing about Ebay's demise was sure to happen - here it is 15 yrs later and I'm still here as are many of the posters still wailing the sky is falling - so obviously despite their predictioms - things are good enough to still use the venue.

Learn to accept what you can't change - and change what you can - which equates to your listings. I see many listings where the titles aren't formatted correctly - so they are not going to rank high in search - provide only a couple of photos - blurry, dark and don't give a true representation of the item - I see items listed in wrong categories - items listed as excellent and suburb which are anything but and items priced way higher than the competition - and all of these posters are complaining about no sales. I wonder why?

[tellmemama]

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@emerald40wrote:

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:

Do you mean Etsy?

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If you think search is hard on ebay, then you are going to hate the above.

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It is truly terrible.  I've bookmarked my search preference and it is still littered with things like clothing and shoes that have nothing to do with what I actually want.  Mostly because of their relaxed rules on keyword spamming. 

Not to mention I've been scammed there by more "stole the pictures from somewhere but never had the item" sellers in two years than I've ever had in 20 years here.  Each time it happened, I could open a case but customer service would basically suspend the account, throw up their hands, and tell me to go through my payment provider for restitution.

I've sold there too and for some reason it seems to take the longest amount of time to list compared to here and Ruby Lane (which is the quickest in my opinion).  At the time there was a limit of five pictures which can be pretty useless in helping a buyer decide to purchase.  Toss in the five "descriptive terms" that are required before your listing can go live (era, content, etc.) and it's a recipe for seeing so many non-related things in search.

Should this place go south, I'm not looking forward to selling there again.

[timemachine777]

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@ted_200wrote:

Look!  I'm the "Best Pick"!

https://www.ebay.com/p/France-10-Centimes-1903/102180178?_trksid=p2047675.l2644#ProductDetails

Of course, none of those coins are even 10 Centimes.   I guess I "tricked" eBay by offering a lot of 10 of them... 

My Title (you can't see it there!):

FRANCE 25 Centimes 1903-1939 - Lot of 10 Different F-EF Coins, No Reserve!

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Here's the big problem with this whole thing...If you scroll down the link states see all 6 listed for this item, and you see all 6 plus yours. However, if I open a new search box using the eBay logo at the top of this page and repeat the search, I get 13 listings in my results. Half of those items are hidden from your original search. Those sellers can't sell their coins if nobody knows that they exist.

[timemachine777]

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@tunicaslotwrote:

For the past 15 years - I only heard the doom and gloom on these forums with each change - In fact I was one of them wailing about Ebay's demise was sure to happen - here it is 15 yrs later and I'm still here as are many of the posters still wailing the sky is falling - so obviously despite their predictioms - things are good enough to still use the venue.

Learn to accept what you can't change - and change what you can - which equates to your listings. I see many listings where the titles aren't formatted correctly - so they are not going to rank high in search - provide only a couple of photos - blurry, dark and don't give a true representation of the item - I see items listed in wrong categories - items listed as excellent and suburb which are anything but and items priced way higher than the competition - and all of these posters are complaining about no sales. I wonder why?

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An those doom and gloom fears have turned out to be true over the past decade, as eBay has continued to redesign this site to micromanage everyone accounts, to decide who the winners and losers are regardless of what buyers think, and to slowly squeeze small used item sellers off the site.

Yeah, you'll have some sellers make listing mistakes, and many of those are not really mistakes. They're due to the sellers not being able to keep up with all the changes eBay keeps making to the site and not telling anybody in the announcements. So the changes result in both new listings and relists not showing up.

[classicgadget]

Give up 20% of a $10 Billion company?? What company does that without selling off the part of the business they are moving away from. One idea I have seen is to separate new from pre-owned for a while, and the later sell off the preowned, or something to that effect. Who just gives up $2 billion in revenues (if 20% is the real number, I think it's more). That will be hard to make up with the competition the way it is (amazon, walmart, etc.) As for half.com it is no comparison to what ebay preowned/auction is.

[timemachine777]

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@classicgadgetwrote:
Give up 20% of a $10 Billion company?? What company does that without selling off the part of the business they are moving away from. One idea I have seen is to separate new from pre-owned for a while, and the later sell off the preowned, or something to that effect. Who just gives up $2 billion in revenues (if 20% is the real number, I think it's more). That will be hard to make up with the competition the way it is (amazon, walmart, etc.) As for half.com it is no comparison to what ebay preowned/auction is.

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Wenig thinks that his huge gamble with his site overhaul will pay off. eBay will never divide the site to sell off a piece, because they would have to share their tech with the buyer. That's not going to happen unless they sell the site as a whole. 

I just read the entire spring update release, but it still doesn't answer the questions raised by sellers here, regarding, antiques, collectibles, and unique items.

[nowthatsjustducky]

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:
Just sell now and don`t worry never know what will happened in future and specially with Ebay. Many things can change.

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Those who remain complacent for now and do not take any action to protect their interests, by building their presence on other sites will be the ones blindsided and placed into a financial pickle and suddenly find themselves overloaded with emergency actions to start establishing themselves elsewhere when the axe falls.

Do you also wait until a big financial crisis hits before looking at perhaps building up some emergency savings, or wait until the first big winter storm or other major weather event hits before winterizing your home or otherwise prepping for known disaster threats in your area?

A complete and total wait and see attitude is one of the most dangerous stances one can take.  The writing is possibly on the wall here.  If everyone who does not deal in the new in package Chinese garbage just waits and sees how this develops further does not take just in case measures to hedge their bets, they will find themselves in the midst of a sudden panicked crunch that will take valuable time away from doing the things that actually generate sales.

At least now we have enough warning and can see the clouds on the horizon to where we can casually take our protective measures at a non frantic pace without heavily interrupting our operations in the here and now.