eBay’s final value fee

[kbmarines]

Based on what I’ve seen as final value percentages to increase over time? Right now we are at 13.25 percent and I’ve heard very soon maybe 2025 will be pushing 14% or maybe higher! 

I spoke with an eBay rep and he said it’s due to inflation but when will these increases end? Less profits and higher percentages is not good for us sellers.. 

[dbfolks166mt]

     The simple answer is probably never. Cost increases are a constant factor in business operations. How are you dealing with the shipping cost increases? Most businesses simply adapt and adjust and pass the increased cost on to the end buyer. The new pricing may result in less consumer demand for an item, depending on its demand elasticity or inelasticity. Either the buyer decides they do not want or need the item or because they substitute something else in place of it. 

     I find it ironic that a lot of posters continually focus on the eBay fees when I find that the rising cost of shipping is having a greater impact on my sales than the eBay fees even if they were to increase by a small percentage. 

[fbusoni]

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@kbmarines wrote:

Based on what I’ve seen as final value percentages to increase over time? Right now we are at 13.25 percent and I’ve heard very soon maybe 2025 will be pushing 14% or maybe higher! 

I spoke with an eBay rep and he said it’s due to inflation but when will these increases end? Less profits and higher percentages is not good for us sellers.. 

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I do not think that fee increases -- USPS, eBay, etc. -- will ever end.  

I maintain profits by working fee increases -- of all kinds -- into my asking prices; my buyers have always paid my selling fees.

[fbusoni]

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@dbfolks166mt wrote:

     The simple answer is probably never. Cost increases are a constant factor in business operations. How are you dealing with the shipping cost increases? Most businesses simply adapt and adjust and pass the increased cost on to the end buyer. The new pricing may result in less consumer demand for an item, depending on its demand elasticity or inelasticity. Either the buyer decides they do not want or need the item or because they substitute something else in place of it. 

     I find it ironic that a lot of posters continually focus on the eBay fees when I find that the rising cost of shipping is having a greater impact on my sales than the eBay fees even if they were to increase by a small percentage. 

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@dbfolks166mt 

Curious to know how are you managing shipping increases.

I am adding some text in my listings these days, explaining that shipping costs have gone up, and that I am merely keeping up to ensure that items -- particularly those that are fragile and which demand extra packaging materials and thus more weight -- are delivered in one piece.   So far, so good.  

[fern*wood]

I agree that my biggest problem is the cost to ship. 

[dbfolks166mt]

Curious to know how are you managing shipping increases.

I am adding some text in my listings these days, explaining that shipping costs have gone up, and that I am merely keeping up to ensure that items -- particularly those that are fragile and which demand extra packaging materials and thus more weight -- are delivered in one piece.   So far, so good.  

     I utilize calculated shipping and do not pass the discounted rates on to the buyers. The difference in the full retail pricing the buyer pays for shipping and what it cost me to purchase the actual label is generally adequate to cover the FVF's on the shipping and my packing materials a lot of which I obtain free from family and friends. While USPS ground advantage is generally the cheapest way to ship there is a break point where USPS flat rate envelopes and/or boxes become the cheaper method generally because of weight and shipping zone. Even in those cases I still utilize calculated shipping but the buyer sees the same rate regardless of where they are located domestically. Since this is obviously your posting account I cannot see what your are selling and make any suggestions. 

     While it's not a huge amount in most cases the calculated shipping in some cases also saves the buyer from having to pay sales tax on the shipping since about 1/2 of the states don't charge sales tax on shipping if it can be separately identified in the order. Since the buyer is not paying sales tax on the shipping I am not paying FVF's on the sales tax either. 

[dhbookds]

fvf won't go up that much.........altho ebay may increase some categories more than others......to encourage/discourage specific items.

In reality the 13.25% isn't that much more than the 10% and 2.9%(to paypal) that we had before the paypal split......

[nobody*s_perfect]

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@kbmarines wrote: ...  I’ve heard very soon maybe 2025 will be pushing 14% or maybe higher! ...

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Why on earth would you waste time and mental energy thinking about rumors? Wait to see what actually happens.

[luckythewinner]

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Based on what I’ve seen as final value percentages to increase over time?

Final value percentage change whenever eBay chooses to change them. But yes, they tend to go up a lot more than they go down. 

Right now we are at 13.25 percent

Generally speaking, that is the fee percentage for non-store sellers in most categories. 

I’ve heard very soon maybe 2025 will be pushing 14% or maybe higher

Where specifically did you "hear" that? Was it from a reputable, published source? Or just someone you ran into on the street? 

[kabilab]

I agree with dbfolks; my problem is the shipping. 7 yrs. ago, I could send a DVD from Dayton, Oh. to San Diego first class for $1.97. Today, and by Media Mail, the cost is $4.65. As I employ e-Bay strictly as a liquidation platform, their fees are a distant secondary concern for me.

[gone.c-33]

If you heard that from a phone customer service rep, I’d take it with a huge grain of salt.

[ebooksdiva]

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@kbmarines wrote:

Based on what I’ve seen as final value percentages to increase over time? Right now we are at 13.25 percent and I’ve heard very soon maybe 2025 will be pushing 14% or maybe higher! 

I spoke with an eBay rep and he said it’s due to inflation but when will these increases end? Less profits and higher percentages is not good for us sellers.. 

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You heard this from where? A customer service rep? Really? They don't know eBay policies much less if fvf are going to increase. Did you call them or did they call you?

You've been bamboozled. 

[kbmarines]

No the problem is eBay is losing its volume and customers as i stopped selling like many others on there platform because of the fee increases every year and like I said where is the cap on them because there isn’t and eventually like I said many times before if my calculations are correct your looking 30% to 40% FVF by 2035 lol 🙄.. by that time over half your sell price would be gone in an instant leaving with huge losses across the board and sellers! Sad facts but just wait and see!! 🤷‍♂️

[kbmarines]

Like imagine taxes increasing every year $1000 with no cap, omg do you know what the would cause for the economy and how eventually even the middle class would go under and suffer even more with increasing debt!  It would be disastrous but eBay doesn’t care so they will continue to raise cost till it’s just not worth it anymore to the consumer and guess what? Buyers fees are coming too lol 😂 

[dbfolks166mt]

No the problem is eBay is losing its volume and customers as i stopped selling like many others on there platform because of the fee increases every year and like I said where is the cap on them because there isn’t and eventually like I said many times before if my calculations are correct your looking 30% to 40% FVF by 2035 lol by that time over half your sell price would be gone in an instant leaving with huge losses across the board and sellers! Sad facts but just wait and see!! 

     According to the 2024 third quarter report and their historical GMV trends the GMV, while it has returned to the pre-pandemic levels it has not grown much since then but there are a lot of factors impacting that growth. While you and others may have quit selling others have just started. It is a normal trend in business some leave the marketplace and some enter. 

     The assessed fees have not risen that much over the past several years. However, eBay came up with the various promoted listing schemes which have already pushed some sellers fees to the extreme ranges but that is by their own choosing. EBay has other ways to increase its revenue without raising fees which is why they have remained pretty constant even after the switch to MP. 

     Every externality increases eBay's revenue so price inflation/increases, shipping increases automatically increase eBay's revenue without them raising the fee percentage. It is highly unlikely the market place would bear a 30+% FVF there are simply too many other options out there for sellers these days.