eBay adding IPR to non-IPR listings - anyone else?

[llllady]

I tried posting this to the Technical Issues board, but it looks like it is not monitoring at all, even when you summon the blues. Of course, they may be just ignoring me, but I digress...

When originally listing yarn lots, they had IPR, which I normally always use.  In the event buyers wanted to buy multiple lots, I thought it would be easier to remove the IPR, so two days ago, IPR was removed from them.   Yesterday (Friday) I began randomly checking, and the IPR was back on every single one. 

Yesterday, I once again removed the IPR from them.  This morning, it's back AGAIN!  I only changed 2 of them this morning and have not yet checked the rest, but am sure of what will be found.

What is going on?  No sales in 6 days, and I need this added aggravation, especially this time of year?  Come on, eBay, quit playing games.

You all better check your listings that you did NOT put IPR on. You may be surprised at what you find.

[lookng2015]

I have one ID that has been dumped into the eBay forced IPR and the only way buyers could combine shipping was for me to remove my own seller checked IPR from every single listing. I just looked and the IPR is still unchecked (but there's no way to remove the forced IPR once you've been opted in and no way to tell from the actual listing either).

Now it appears they're checking it off for sellers who have UNchecked it. Just another way of forcing IPR?

[llllady]

Yep. No sense in trying to remove them again.   I initially hanged them for the same reason you did for combined shipping purposes. 

No sense in trying to cancel and relist without the IPR, since it is happening to one of the listings I did yesterday without it.  Sure enough, it's been added, and not by me!   This is very disconcerting. 

eBay the venue...NOT.

To make matters worse, I edited the description area on all of them telling buyers to put it in their cart and wait for a revised invoice.  Now I have to go take that back out of each one.  

[partial*eclipse]

eBay's official policy is to automatically add IPR.  It was announced a few years ago and has been in the Help page about IPR since then, but apparently the implementation only began to be rolled out in earnest within the past few months.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/require-immediate-payment.html

"For items priced below $1000 with a specified shipping cost and where PayPal is the only payment method offered, buyers who click Buy It Now are asked to pay immediately."

[llllady]

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@partial*eclipse wrote:

eBay's official policy is to automatically add IPR.  It was announced a few years ago and has been in the Help page about IPR since then, but apparently the implementation only began to be rolled out in earnest within the past few months.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/require-immediate-payment.html

"For items priced below $1000 with a specified shipping cost and where PayPal is the only payment method offered, buyers who click Buy It Now are asked to pay immediately."

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 @partial*eclipse

Thanks.  Do you happen to know if specified shipping cost refers to just listings providing a fixed/flat rate shipping, or does it include calculated shipping?  Mine were mixed.

And does this apply even if the seller manually changes it back?

[frodobagginskennedy]

On and off for a while some of my listings have been forced into IPR.  There is no rhyme or reason as to whichh ones.  One way to bypass this is to offer Best Offer on the listings.

[llllady]

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@frodobagginskennedy wrote:

On and off for a while some of my listings have been forced into IPR.  There is no rhyme or reason as to whichh ones.  One way to bypass this is to offer Best Offer on the listings.

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Yes, I normally do.  The yarn lots were the exception because there are multiple lots available.  Wanted to give buyers an opportunity to save some money with combined shipping. 

I just cancelled two of the listings and started them fresh.  So far, eBay has not put the IPR back on.  Now I have to decide how much time I want to waste cancelling and relisting anew.  Then, again, maybe I shouldn't be worried about it since today is day 6 without a sale (after a string of about 11 days with at least 1 sale).   Nothing fishy going on here, is there?  Ahuh.

It just never ends. 

[labs118]

Oh my
Hi There
Sorry 1 already has IPR !
Rose pink color is ok. other 5 color has it
And even if ebay was forcing into IPR I have never seen the forced IPR in the shipping description box like it is . That most times shows up only when the seller adds IPR when listing
 
I would add 2 to my cart & test them but worry it would commit me to buy and sellers don't like to have to cancel !!

I went into this account of mine while signed into another ID and I see nothing that has IPR in my shipping & payment section

[myboardid]

eBay wants all listings to have IPR now, so they will put it back on your new listings sooner or later.  It is easier for you to just put a note in your descriptions that if the buyer wants more than one item, you will refund any overpayment of shipping cost. 

[llllady]

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@myboardid wrote:

eBay wants all listings to have IPR now, so they will put it back on your new listings sooner or later.  It is easier for you to just put a note in your descriptions that if the buyer wants more than one item, you will refund any overpayment of shipping cost. 

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I don't have a problem with that IF eBay is going to credit the fees after it's done without having to jump through more hoops with CS.  We've already been told that if you do a partial, you have to notify your buyer first, otherwise it is a defect.  So there is already one extra step involved NEEDLESSLY. 😞

Sending up a wave to labs.  @labs118  🙂

[ersatz_sobriquet]

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@myboardid wrote:

eBay wants all listings to have IPR now, so they will put it back on your new listings sooner or later.  It is easier for you to just put a note in your descriptions that if the buyer wants more than one item, you will refund any overpayment of shipping cost. 

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We've been told lately that is a defect! One supposed way around that is to send a note with the refund through ebay, paypal notes don't count, explaining why the refund. Then supposedly a real live human being is going to read those notes and stop the defect. Well who believes at this time, with a million more listings a day, that there are ebay employees who read notes? It's just a headless brainless bot program like all the others. No human is going to check on that note to make sure a poor unsuspecting seller doesn't end up with a defect! 

[partial*eclipse]

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@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:

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 ... We've been told lately that is a defect! One supposed way around that is to send a note with the refund through ebay, paypal notes don't count, explaining why the refund....! 

Two eBay staff who work in the Community division have asserted that defects can be given for partial refunds, and recommended the message.  But they failed to provide  any evidence that this is the actual eBay policy.  

In the threads that discussed it, ALL of the respondents who reported about their own personal experience with partial refunds said that they had NEVER gotten a defect for it.  Not one person reported that they had gotten a defect after giving a partial refund.  So IMHO the eBay staff were wrong and this is an  eBay "urban myth".  I'm more than ready to consider new evidence.

[ersatz_sobriquet]

I agree partial*eclipse, sure sounds fishy doesn't it. Then again, there are supposed "hidden" defects we don't see. 

If the defect system for a partial refund doesn't exist at all, I sure wish ebay would educate their employees to not come here and spew such nonsense that such a defect program exists. I read it here, with my own eyes. 

[llllady]

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@partial*eclipse wrote:

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@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:

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 ... We've been told lately that is a defect! One supposed way around that is to send a note with the refund through ebay, paypal notes don't count, explaining why the refund....! 

Two eBay staff who work in the Community division have asserted that defects can be given for partial refunds, and recommended the message.  But they failed to provide  any evidence that this is the actual eBay policy.  

In the threads that discussed it, ALL of the respondents who reported about their own personal experience with partial refunds said that they had NEVER gotten a defect for it.  Not one person reported that they had gotten a defect after giving a partial refund.  So IMHO the eBay staff were wrong and this is an  eBay "urban myth".  I'm more than ready to consider new evidence.

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I think you should test it for us, and let us know how it works out for you.  🙂  🙂  🙂

[partial*eclipse]

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@llllady wrote:

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 ... I think you should test it for us, and let us know how it works out for you.  🙂  🙂  🙂

I have tested it, many times.

Like many of the other posters on those threads, I have often given partial refunds to buyers who don't wait for a combined invoice.  And I have never gotten any defects or even double-secret probation.