05-10-2019 10:28 PM
If you go look at the archives you will find thread after thread of people complaining their sales have dropped off. I will have to admit that I have spent far too much time reading them and have even posted one or two.
For me it was April 2017 when it just fell off. Wasn't all that that long ago I had my first day in 5 years without a sale.
They changed some things, that's for sure. Griping about it won't help us so I thought I would share some ways that I have begun to find an increase in sales.
1. Promoted listings is not a choice. If your complaining your sales fell off and you are not using promoted listings you need to go do a blanket 1% on everything and watch it increase immediately. They found a creative way to increase the fees in a way that looks like its optional. Its not optional.
2. Stagnant Inventory. I have read that sellers have gotten eBay reps to 'reset' their listings. While I believe they may have been told this I don't believe that whatever the rep did had any meaningful effect. I have read that doing a bulk edit and not changing anything gets it going. I don't see that being very effective either. It used to be that if you posted an item you could leave it posted forever and it would eventually sell. I think the new eBay is taking a lot more data points into account like views, watchers, identical solds, and who knows what else. If it doesn't like your listing, it buries it and shows it nobody. I have not been keeping items nearly as long and I have been a lot more aggressive in revising and lowering prices. I revise at least as many items as I post everyday and double most days. Sometimes its a $1 thats the difference in sold and not sold.
3. Offers to buyers. I have sold several items with this new feature. If its not an option on your dashboard you can manually type the link to get to it. Its available to everyone.
4. Offer international shipping outside of GSP. I have had lots of sales this way and printing the label for a first class international (up to 4lbs by the way) is as easy as printing a US one. The only difference is you have to sign it. I have had a couple people do something like pay $150 in shipping to get a $75 item, and that kills me on the fees but that rarely happens and I have yet to loose money on any deal because of it.
5. Returns and cases. I seem to notice a drastic dip in sales directly after I get two returns and/or cases. Just one doesn't seem to have an effect but it seems like if I get two inside of a week, sales suck for several days after. Anyone else notice this? This has led me to a point to where I will not sell anything with a defect. People are looking at the gallery photo and the price and NOTHING ELSE. I will sell new, and fully functional used, and that's it. Sometimes really expensive items still have significant value even if they are only partially working, I will not longer sell that. If I don't feel like the ENTIRE listing can meet the expectation created by just the first photo I don't list it on ebay at all. I guess what I am saying is be more selective with your sourcing.
6. Competition. There are a lot more people selling on ebay. I sure wish I knew how many sellers were on ebay three years ago vs. today. I really have been trying to find items that nobody else is offering or have few comps. I have found myself passing on things not because the margin wasn't there but because there are 3,423 other ones already posted. In the past I would have bought anything that had a sold comp with a good margin, not anymore.
So that was my goal of this post, just to share some ways I am finding a little traction. Hope it helps.
On a side note....
For going on three or four months I noticed a big decrease in return abuse and entitled cheats. I had a period of time with 0 open returns and quite a run with only 1. This weeks I had 2 big fat cheaters. They were all cheap items that had returns anyway, and I got the items back, so not a huge deal. They only stole shipping fees.
One guy asked a silly question about a set of waders I had posted. I referred him to the portion of the listing that answered the question so he couldn't use the semantics of my answer to start a return later. He didn't like that answer so he bought the item with the intent of returning it. Brand New Item. Has UPC. Has same information as all other sellers with same item and same UPC. eBay was kind of enough to remove the defect, but having to call waste my time, kinda aggravating.
I had a somewhat rare bible. It was in pretty rough shape. I wouldn't source or list the same item again. I took good photos of all the damage and described all the damage in detail. If I remember right this bible in good used condition goes for around $40+. This one sold for $20. 30 Day returns, no good reason needed to return it. Shipping was just over $3. Then of course they choose a reason that causes me a defect and say " I love this bibles I would never allow any one do this type of harm to any book let a lone a bible". What a looney toon.
I love how these people can come to ebay and treat it like facebook and at the end of the day it doesn't cost them a dime. They are not shopping for items, they are shopping for a problem to create. eBay does offer us one thing most other platforms don't, the blocked list.
Person 1 had 0 feedback. I think they created a new account to distance what they were about to do from their real account. Person 2 had 1 feedback. Not well established members of the ebay community by any stretch. Returns for users with less than 5 feedback should require a look by an actual person at ebay before they are allowed to apply a defect. Even if it looks like it went through to the user, actual look prior to defect application seems like common sense.
So I know there are some people out there that had a big drop in sales, is there anyone out there that has kept pumping up items and found some success with any new techniques? Get any crazy returns?
Anyone out there sell 20 items instead of 10 and wanna tells us all who say the sales fell off we are crazy because you had a 100% increase? 🙂
11-02-2019 11:06 AM
It's the newer and younger generation sellers who don't know what the value of what they are selling and are under pricing the common items we have for sale. They raid thrift stores, flea markets, dumpster diving, clean outs, storage area auctions and other online venues including Craigslist when they come to your door asking for a quarter of what you are selling your item for. I actually had one young persons face turn red and break out in tears crying "but it's my birthday!" because I said no to his asking price and he would not leave until he got it like a young spoiled brat. He looked like 20 years old. They sell various items at WAY below prices just to make a nickel when they could have had it for much more. I have had only good sales with very extremely rare items and not common items that you would find hunting at these venues. Go on YouTube and check out thrifting, eBay reselling, dumpster diving and more. I have watched several videos on many channels and they are excited and satisfied to make a dollar on an item that could have easily sold for $100 in days or even hours. I call it the children's lemonade stand effect. They don't mind if they take all day and afternoon to pack 100 boxes just to make $50 in profit for the entire day. Remember the eBay drop off sites that made it so easy to sell? Some even hire underpaid slave labor for the mass quantity of items to list and pack. The videos make it look like they are doing it all themselves. Some have giant warehouses full. This is just too much for one person. The listings are usually lazily posted with very few details, free shipping, free return guarantees, and any other positive thing they can throw at it like part of the payment goes to charity just to make the sale. Just watch the videos. I had a hot selling item and others that I used to make $150 all the time for many years as well as the other sellers selling the same kind of item. and now in the past few years it has shrunk down to a mere $20 to $40 regularly. These items are easy to find and have always been. Most of all all my common items prices have been forced to shrink to stay competitive. The eBay trending prices are unrealistic so others follow the heard. Just look at the eBay Chinese market has done to some competitive sellers who sell the same item. It's just not worth it anymore unless you are selling in high volume, using underpaid overworked slave labor, and competitive pricing and offers. It's not that would do any of these myself. Anyone send me a reply if you agree with me after doing some educated research.
11-02-2019 04:48 PM
@stvlu732015 wrote:It's the newer and younger generation sellers who don't know what the value of what they are selling and are under pricing the common items we have for sale. They raid thrift stores, flea markets, dumpster diving, clean outs, storage area auctions and other online venues including Craigslist when they come to your door asking for a quarter of what you are selling your item for. I actually had one young persons face turn red and break out in tears crying "but it's my birthday!" because I said no to his asking price and he would not leave until he got it like a young spoiled brat. He looked like 20 years old. They sell various items at WAY below prices just to make a nickel when they could have had it for much more. I have had only good sales with very extremely rare items and not common items that you would find hunting at these venues. Go on YouTube and check out thrifting, eBay reselling, dumpster diving and more. I have watched several videos on many channels and they are excited and satisfied to make a dollar on an item that could have easily sold for $100 in days or even hours. I call it the children's lemonade stand effect. They don't mind if they take all day and afternoon to pack 100 boxes just to make $50 in profit for the entire day. Remember the eBay drop off sites that made it so easy to sell? Some even hire underpaid slave labor for the mass quantity of items to list and pack. The videos make it look like they are doing it all themselves. Some have giant warehouses full. This is just too much for one person. The listings are usually lazily posted with very few details, free shipping, free return guarantees, and any other positive thing they can throw at it like part of the payment goes to charity just to make the sale. Just watch the videos. I had a hot selling item and others that I used to make $150 all the time for many years as well as the other sellers selling the same kind of item. and now in the past few years it has shrunk down to a mere $20 to $40 regularly. These items are easy to find and have always been. Most of all all my common items prices have been forced to shrink to stay competitive. The eBay trending prices are unrealistic so others follow the heard. Just look at the eBay Chinese market has done to some competitive sellers who sell the same item. It's just not worth it anymore unless you are selling in high volume, using underpaid overworked slave labor, and competitive pricing and offers. It's not that would do any of these myself. Anyone send me a reply if you agree with me after doing some educated research.
I've watched a few of the youtubers who claim to buy Amazon lots and whatnot. Two of them I've watched claim to be solo ops. The one guy posts a new video everyday with what he bought (seems to be a fair amount of stuff) and the other literally shows a small warehouse full of stuff.
Even when I was listing 10 new items a day, it was taking me a few weeks to get through a pallet of 275-350 items. Of course, I was also testing and cleaning up any open box items for sale as well as doing all of the photography, research, data entry, listing creation, packaging, shipping, etc.
It seems hard to believe that these parties could be legitimately listing this stuff that quickly unless its all either wholly untested (still a big challenge, IMHO) and/or they're just dumping it all on some tables at the local swap meet or something.
Maybe I was putting too much work into it but the margins on these lots aren't necessarily huge so my goal was to maximize my monetary returns. I've always suspected that for some of these youtubers their real business model is the youtube videos themselves and not the items they are selling. Kind of like "American Pickers" and "Storage Wars."
I, myself had toyed with the idea of posting some of these videos to see if I could monetize them but I don't see any competitive advantage in showing others how to compete with my business model.
11-04-2019 03:59 AM
11-04-2019 04:57 AM
Why do they insist on GTC!!! Its not making us money. I end all of my listings before they auto relist, even if there isn't going to be a fee.
11-04-2019 07:40 AM
I'm dead slow , luckily I'm just selling off inventory no don't rely on Ebay as a income and don't really see my self selling on Ebay in the future .
Everyone I talk with is complaining about tax collection especially on used goods , people are going elsewhere on new goods , there a a lot of options with cheaper prices and not paying tax seems to be a big issue .
11-08-2019 05:50 AM
200% agree with u! - I'm having terrible drop after compulsory GTC…..sales decline fr 30 > 20 > 10 > 1 ….
Compulsory GTC gives buyer a feeling of “this is not hurry you can buy it later”, so when times goes by buyers will LOST THE INTENTION OF PURCHASE because the item is always available! It kill sales!
Without the “ending soon” alert, there will be also reduce many impulsive buyers.
Moreover- the low visibility due to the manipulation of search engine also kill sales!
11-08-2019 06:16 AM
I only have auctions but every month things just gets worse. No sales for over a week now . Only sticking around here because I keep hoping it will get better and have not found a good alternative yet! If I were Ebay management I would be making changes quickly to save what is left of this site !
11-08-2019 09:14 AM
I'm an auction-only seller, too. I've been hedging a little mid-range value products against the idea that if I'm going to get less, it may as well not be less off my *primo* stuff....
Been thinking long and hard about this eBay dropoff. I DO NOT believe this is the new norm. When Singer's group took a controlling leveraged interest in eBay late last year, I suspect they gave Devin three quarters, nine months, to prove he could keep his job. I think -- and it's not hard to deduce -- Devin started throwing stuff against the wall to see what would stick. Under pressure, he went into rash panic mode. Much, arguably all, that he initiated was wrong. When his three quarters were up, he was rightly ditched.
The damage and cleanup remains to us -- or not. Your choice.
There is a trough to every dip. We're incurring the consequences of Devin Gone Rash, and will for a (hopefully little) little while longer. Yeah, it sucks. But it is the faithful to whom come the rewards for long suffering. eBay's been very good to me for many years -- as I've been good to and for them. In tough times, friends stick together, and loyalty is reciprocated.
It really is all on eBay now. One can jeer them or encourage.
11-12-2019 10:31 AM
Maybe you are right....but not....buyers reporting that they can't pay with paypal or cards...some of them can't login...other report that search returns empty page....and etc. etc... eBay seller hub is full with bugs....and they decide to implement the changes just before Xmas ....and they constantly changing their search engine...maybe even eBay developers doesn't know how this search engine works....and a lot of stupid decision made from eBay....sorry but Amazon beat you...just accept it...
11-13-2019 04:11 AM
Absolutely true Ebay should make a China pavilion page,so those buyers who wish to have Chinese products only doesn't land to another pages.
11-13-2019 07:05 PM
Internet sales tax is destroying the online marketplaces and hurting small online businesses, a major burden to both buyers and sellers. I know I've pretty much stopped purchasing items from eBay since sales tax was enforced upon us. However, I will only purchase an item when I receive an eBay bucks promotion from them which will compensate for the additional sales tax. And I've previously bought a good 10K in merchandise every year from eBay. No more! In addition, Paypal is no longer crediting back seller's payment processing fees on items that are returned. PayPal now keeps the money! Also keep in mind that sellers are also being charged payment processing fees on the sales tax amount that eBay collects from buyers. We sellers aren't even receiving the sales tax money, yet we are being charged a fee on it! I won't be selling online much longer. It's no longer worth it! Corporate greed has taken over!
11-14-2019 10:18 AM
They are charging tax on used items!! I rarely sell preowned items so I didn't realize!!! That's ridiculous!!!
11-14-2019 10:24 AM
I added all my listings to Bonanza, in Hopes of better sales, so far nothing, but at least you don't have to pay to list, so it's not costing anything.
It's also away to protect my listings since Ebay mysteriously deletes them. First a few pictures come up missing then eventually the whole listing dissapears.....
11-15-2019 11:41 AM
11-15-2019 12:24 PM
I had a bad year after going from offering free shipping to not. So I went back to "free shipping" and my sales steadily increased and are now great! It helps that I have a lot of men's and women's flannel lined jeans.
I offer 30 day returns but will NEVER offer free returns because I sell mainly clothing. I get enough returns as it is and eat that original shipping.