05-10-2019 10:28 PM
If you go look at the archives you will find thread after thread of people complaining their sales have dropped off. I will have to admit that I have spent far too much time reading them and have even posted one or two.
For me it was April 2017 when it just fell off. Wasn't all that that long ago I had my first day in 5 years without a sale.
They changed some things, that's for sure. Griping about it won't help us so I thought I would share some ways that I have begun to find an increase in sales.
1. Promoted listings is not a choice. If your complaining your sales fell off and you are not using promoted listings you need to go do a blanket 1% on everything and watch it increase immediately. They found a creative way to increase the fees in a way that looks like its optional. Its not optional.
2. Stagnant Inventory. I have read that sellers have gotten eBay reps to 'reset' their listings. While I believe they may have been told this I don't believe that whatever the rep did had any meaningful effect. I have read that doing a bulk edit and not changing anything gets it going. I don't see that being very effective either. It used to be that if you posted an item you could leave it posted forever and it would eventually sell. I think the new eBay is taking a lot more data points into account like views, watchers, identical solds, and who knows what else. If it doesn't like your listing, it buries it and shows it nobody. I have not been keeping items nearly as long and I have been a lot more aggressive in revising and lowering prices. I revise at least as many items as I post everyday and double most days. Sometimes its a $1 thats the difference in sold and not sold.
3. Offers to buyers. I have sold several items with this new feature. If its not an option on your dashboard you can manually type the link to get to it. Its available to everyone.
4. Offer international shipping outside of GSP. I have had lots of sales this way and printing the label for a first class international (up to 4lbs by the way) is as easy as printing a US one. The only difference is you have to sign it. I have had a couple people do something like pay $150 in shipping to get a $75 item, and that kills me on the fees but that rarely happens and I have yet to loose money on any deal because of it.
5. Returns and cases. I seem to notice a drastic dip in sales directly after I get two returns and/or cases. Just one doesn't seem to have an effect but it seems like if I get two inside of a week, sales suck for several days after. Anyone else notice this? This has led me to a point to where I will not sell anything with a defect. People are looking at the gallery photo and the price and NOTHING ELSE. I will sell new, and fully functional used, and that's it. Sometimes really expensive items still have significant value even if they are only partially working, I will not longer sell that. If I don't feel like the ENTIRE listing can meet the expectation created by just the first photo I don't list it on ebay at all. I guess what I am saying is be more selective with your sourcing.
6. Competition. There are a lot more people selling on ebay. I sure wish I knew how many sellers were on ebay three years ago vs. today. I really have been trying to find items that nobody else is offering or have few comps. I have found myself passing on things not because the margin wasn't there but because there are 3,423 other ones already posted. In the past I would have bought anything that had a sold comp with a good margin, not anymore.
So that was my goal of this post, just to share some ways I am finding a little traction. Hope it helps.
On a side note....
For going on three or four months I noticed a big decrease in return abuse and entitled cheats. I had a period of time with 0 open returns and quite a run with only 1. This weeks I had 2 big fat cheaters. They were all cheap items that had returns anyway, and I got the items back, so not a huge deal. They only stole shipping fees.
One guy asked a silly question about a set of waders I had posted. I referred him to the portion of the listing that answered the question so he couldn't use the semantics of my answer to start a return later. He didn't like that answer so he bought the item with the intent of returning it. Brand New Item. Has UPC. Has same information as all other sellers with same item and same UPC. eBay was kind of enough to remove the defect, but having to call waste my time, kinda aggravating.
I had a somewhat rare bible. It was in pretty rough shape. I wouldn't source or list the same item again. I took good photos of all the damage and described all the damage in detail. If I remember right this bible in good used condition goes for around $40+. This one sold for $20. 30 Day returns, no good reason needed to return it. Shipping was just over $3. Then of course they choose a reason that causes me a defect and say " I love this bibles I would never allow any one do this type of harm to any book let a lone a bible". What a looney toon.
I love how these people can come to ebay and treat it like facebook and at the end of the day it doesn't cost them a dime. They are not shopping for items, they are shopping for a problem to create. eBay does offer us one thing most other platforms don't, the blocked list.
Person 1 had 0 feedback. I think they created a new account to distance what they were about to do from their real account. Person 2 had 1 feedback. Not well established members of the ebay community by any stretch. Returns for users with less than 5 feedback should require a look by an actual person at ebay before they are allowed to apply a defect. Even if it looks like it went through to the user, actual look prior to defect application seems like common sense.
So I know there are some people out there that had a big drop in sales, is there anyone out there that has kept pumping up items and found some success with any new techniques? Get any crazy returns?
Anyone out there sell 20 items instead of 10 and wanna tells us all who say the sales fell off we are crazy because you had a 100% increase? 🙂
06-06-2019 12:37 PM
@laurabeardsley wrote:I had 1 good week and now silence again. I do not know how it can work like this even though I list new things constantly. I believe my items only get seen randomly.So disgusted with Ebay. I finally started selling on another site and it is so much more seller friendly. Ebay offers NO seller protection and encourages poor treatment by buyers by making the feedback system so 1 sided.
i have been using part of my listings (older items) as guinea pig items, and trying ALL of the recommendations i come across here suggested by other sellers. my sales have picked up, not great but better than they were, which is about 35% increase from the last 3mos average. but still down about 45-50% from a year and a half ago. i'm averaging right now for the past month or so about 1.45 sales a day. that's with canceling before gtc rolls over, 1.0 ad fees, looking at each listing and revamping it one by one.
hope this helps someone or gives them ideas to try...
06-07-2019 09:35 AM
as of May 29th my sales are down to almost nothing.
May 31st to June 7th :: 11 sales
My average sales per week? 23
total for week? 164.00.
down from approx 430.00 a week.
Is Ebay once again experimenting, using sellers as guinea pigs without our knowledge?
My sales dropped drastically in the month of Sept didn't go back to normal until around February of this year.
3 good months, now this.
When does it end?
06-07-2019 09:46 AM
1. Promoted listings is not a choice. If your complaining your sales fell off and you are not using promoted listings you need to go do a blanket 1% on everything and watch it increase immediately. They found a creative way to increase the fees in a way that looks like its optional. Its not optional.
Any idea what promoted listings do to the marketplace???
As a seller when I'm looking for something I get fed up and quit.
Why?
Search for something like howard watch ad
You Find 35 listings , BUT half of that 35 are promoted listings duplicates.
Now as a buyer try finding something when there are 400 listings and half are duplicates, you get sick and tired of seeing the same thing over and over and over.
Ebay goes after you if you make a duplicate by mistake claiming it hurts buyers buying experience, yet if sellers pay I guess it is alright to ruin a buyers buying experience?
Using promoted listings ruins it for every seller on ebay.
Buyers get fed up and just stop looking
When does the increase in promotion fees stop? ebay says average is 6% so sellers go to 7%, then 8% then on and on.
already sellers have ruined the market in my category with prices like 3.99 buy 4 get one free with free shipping, or .99 with free shipping.
Prices used to be an average of 16.99 on up.
Where does it end ? Sellers selling for free with free shipping.
Who wins?
Ebay does
06-07-2019 06:19 PM
06-08-2019 07:27 PM
@rfmtm wrote:. Even as a buyer I often have to search on Google to find something on ebay with exactly the same search terms, so something is going on. What really isn't clear, is why ebay operates this way.
this is my observation too. It is easier to locate an item through google than it is to find it searching on eBay
06-09-2019 08:10 PM
06-09-2019 09:46 PM
@laurabeardsley wrote:I had 1 good week and now silence again. I do not know how it can work like this even though I list new things constantly. I believe my items only get seen randomly.So disgusted with Ebay. I finally started selling on another site and it is so much more seller friendly. Ebay offers NO seller protection and encourages poor treatment by buyers by making the feedback system so 1 sided.
I hate to say this but I believe I'll be quitting too . I think I'll do a '' going out of business '' sale and try and get rid of as much inventory as I can . Since 1996 I haven't seen sales as bad as they are now . Yet e bay just removed 170 dollars out of my bank account for '' sellers fees'' . I wonder who the '' seller '' was ? because it certainly wasn't me. I doubt I made 170 dollars in sales in the last two months . This is just getting ridiculous . Nobody is making any money except for e bay . I'm just as disgusted . Tulips
06-09-2019 09:50 PM
@bloomsburygroup wrote:
It isn't going to get better, no matter what you do. All you have to do is track eBay's traffic to see that the problems there are systemic, at least for small sellers. Slow sales have been a problem for more than a year now and are getting worse, not better. Lots of watchers waiting for you to lower the price to pennies, which I refuse to do as it's not worth the trouble. I stopped buying inventory 6 months ago and have given most of my existing stock to friends and charity. Time for most of us small sellers to find new hobbies.
I'm done too as soon as I can sell off items already listed . E bay has been costing me a fortune in fees compared to what I make . Enough is enough . Tulips
06-10-2019 06:06 AM
@catmond9sik wrote:I agree. Sales are the worst since I started selling in 2009.
I began selling in 1996 and I can honestly say sales have never been as bad as they are now . My sales have nearly tanked but yet my seller fees have risen to a ridiculous amount . In fact,, I haven't had a seller fee bill as high [ as I just paid yesterday] since I sold a car through e bay motors . Since I paid my seller fees yesterday I've made two small 11 dollar sales,,, but my seller fees are already at 46 dollars .. Does that make any sense ? Something is dreadfully wrong . Wrong enough to prompt me into closing my store or risk bankruptcy . Tulips
06-10-2019 06:49 AM
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@catmond9sik wrote:I agree. Sales are the worst since I started selling in 2009.
I began selling in 1996 and I can honestly say sales have never been as bad as they are now . My sales have nearly tanked but yet my seller fees have risen to a ridiculous amount . In fact,, I haven't had a seller fee bill as high [ as I just paid yesterday] since I sold a car through e bay motors . Since I paid my seller fees yesterday I've made two small 11 dollar sales,,, but my seller fees are already at 46 dollars .. Does that make any sense ? Something is dreadfully wrong . Wrong enough to prompt me into closing my store or risk bankruptcy . Tulips
i know the feeling ... i can't decide if i should put any more $$ in or just let currently inventory slide and see where the slipstream takes us. things are changing drastically here. i rarely ever have any problems with buyers or ebay, but in the past week - 1 usps lost package with full refund; 1 ua case with paypal; 1 neutral feedback. to me that is a lot as i strive to keep feedback at 100% and will bend over backwards to keep buyers happy. (just wish ebay showed sellers the same loyalty). i've never had to have ebay remove feedback or anything like that, but i totally dislike receiving that neutral yesterday. i just wish i knew what was going to happen going forward ... then could maybe plan for it
06-14-2019 06:27 PM
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@catmond9sik wrote:I agree. Sales are the worst since I started selling in 2009.
I began selling in 1996 and I can honestly say sales have never been as bad as they are now . My sales have nearly tanked but yet my seller fees have risen to a ridiculous amount . In fact,, I haven't had a seller fee bill as high [ as I just paid yesterday] since I sold a car through e bay motors . Since I paid my seller fees yesterday I've made two small 11 dollar sales,,, but my seller fees are already at 46 dollars .. Does that make any sense ? Something is dreadfully wrong . Wrong enough to prompt me into closing my store or risk bankruptcy . Tulips
Do you pay your invoice when it's first invoiced or when it's "due" (up to 2 weeks later)?
Fees are for sales from 1st to the 30th or the 16th to the 15th (depending on what invoice cycle you're on).
So the $46 most likely includes sales since the last invoice date (not payment).
06-14-2019 07:17 PM
@dasarock wrote:
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@catmond9sik wrote:I agree. Sales are the worst since I started selling in 2009.
I began selling in 1996 and I can honestly say sales have never been as bad as they are now . My sales have nearly tanked but yet my seller fees have risen to a ridiculous amount . In fact,, I haven't had a seller fee bill as high [ as I just paid yesterday] since I sold a car through e bay motors . Since I paid my seller fees yesterday I've made two small 11 dollar sales,,, but my seller fees are already at 46 dollars .. Does that make any sense ? Something is dreadfully wrong . Wrong enough to prompt me into closing my store or risk bankruptcy . Tulips
i know the feeling ... i can't decide if i should put any more $$ in or just let currently inventory slide and see where the slipstream takes us. things are changing drastically here. i rarely ever have any problems with buyers or ebay, but in the past week - 1 usps lost package with full refund; 1 ua case with paypal; 1 neutral feedback. to me that is a lot as i strive to keep feedback at 100% and will bend over backwards to keep buyers happy. (just wish ebay showed sellers the same loyalty). i've never had to have ebay remove feedback or anything like that, but i totally dislike receiving that neutral yesterday. i just wish i knew what was going to happen going forward ... then could maybe plan for it
I know,, it's downright creepy .. Here it is Friday night and not one single sale has come through. This was never typical before . . I used to see at least one , two or even three sales per weekend . . I just don't get this at all . A whole lot of my items have gathered multiple watchers and they're all still there but yet not one buyer on any of them. It's almost as if they are being purposely prevented from buying ,, but that doesn't make any sense . However neither does it make sense for so many other sellers to be having these same issues at the same time . I began selling on another venue today and it's already looking very promising . Absolutely no seller fees either . If it continues to work out well there and the disappointing trend stays the same here then bye bye. Tulips
06-14-2019 07:23 PM
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@catmond9sik wrote:I agree. Sales are the worst since I started selling in 2009.
I began selling in 1996 and I can honestly say sales have never been as bad as they are now . My sales have nearly tanked but yet my seller fees have risen to a ridiculous amount . In fact,, I haven't had a seller fee bill as high [ as I just paid yesterday] since I sold a car through e bay motors . Since I paid my seller fees yesterday I've made two small 11 dollar sales,,, but my seller fees are already at 46 dollars .. Does that make any sense ? Something is dreadfully wrong . Wrong enough to prompt me into closing my store or risk bankruptcy . Tulips
Do you pay your invoice when it's first invoiced or when it's "due" (up to 2 weeks later)?
Fees are for sales from 1st to the 30th or the 16th to the 15th (depending on what invoice cycle you're on).
So the $46 most likely includes sales since the last invoice date (not payment).
My seller fees are auto deducted from my bank account in full every month beginning around 8th to the 10th . I never need to do anything and also in this way they're never late . Tulips
06-14-2019 07:43 PM
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@dasarock wrote:...
I know,, it's downright creepy .. Here it is Friday night and not one single sale has come through. This was never typical before . . I used to see at least one , two or even three sales per weekend . . I just don't get this at all . A whole lot of my items have gathered multiple watchers and they're all still there but yet not one buyer on any of them. It's almost as if they are being purposely prevented from buying ,, but that doesn't make any sense . However neither does it make sense for so many other sellers to be having these same issues at the same time . I began selling on another venue today and it's already looking very promising . Absolutely no seller fees either . If it continues to work out well there and the disappointing trend stays the same here then bye bye. Tulips
i feel it also. i did have one $20 sale earlier today, but realized that i had overcharged shipping and refunded $5 of it thru pp. i'm barely making MT DEW monies here 😞 am down about 70% or a bit more over last year . am not sure of any other venues that usually work as well as ebay for small used auto parts tho :'(
06-14-2019 08:10 PM
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@dasarock wrote:
@turquoisetulips wrote:
@catmond9sik wrote:I agree. Sales are the worst since I started selling in 2009.
I began selling in 1996 and I can honestly say sales have never been as bad as they are now . My sales have nearly tanked but yet my seller fees have risen to a ridiculous amount . In fact,, I haven't had a seller fee bill as high [ as I just paid yesterday] since I sold a car through e bay motors . Since I paid my seller fees yesterday I've made two small 11 dollar sales,,, but my seller fees are already at 46 dollars .. Does that make any sense ? Something is dreadfully wrong . Wrong enough to prompt me into closing my store or risk bankruptcy . Tulips
i know the feeling ... i can't decide if i should put any more $$ in or just let currently inventory slide and see where the slipstream takes us. things are changing drastically here. i rarely ever have any problems with buyers or ebay, but in the past week - 1 usps lost package with full refund; 1 ua case with paypal; 1 neutral feedback. to me that is a lot as i strive to keep feedback at 100% and will bend over backwards to keep buyers happy. (just wish ebay showed sellers the same loyalty). i've never had to have ebay remove feedback or anything like that, but i totally dislike receiving that neutral yesterday. i just wish i knew what was going to happen going forward ... then could maybe plan for it
I know,, it's downright creepy .. Here it is Friday night and not one single sale has come through. This was never typical before . . I used to see at least one , two or even three sales per weekend . . I just don't get this at all . A whole lot of my items have gathered multiple watchers and they're all still there but yet not one buyer on any of them. It's almost as if they are being purposely prevented from buying ,, but that doesn't make any sense . However neither does it make sense for so many other sellers to be having these same issues at the same time . I began selling on another venue today and it's already looking very promising . Absolutely no seller fees either . If it continues to work out well there and the disappointing trend stays the same here then bye bye. Tulips
Fridays have always been weak for me. This is also a slow season for what I sell. Lots of people going on vacations, camping, house parties, weekend excursions, etc and not sitting at home on the computer, cell or tablet buying.
For me, things tend to pick up again towards the end of August with the back-to-school season and fall around the corner.