05-10-2019 10:28 PM
If you go look at the archives you will find thread after thread of people complaining their sales have dropped off. I will have to admit that I have spent far too much time reading them and have even posted one or two.
For me it was April 2017 when it just fell off. Wasn't all that that long ago I had my first day in 5 years without a sale.
They changed some things, that's for sure. Griping about it won't help us so I thought I would share some ways that I have begun to find an increase in sales.
1. Promoted listings is not a choice. If your complaining your sales fell off and you are not using promoted listings you need to go do a blanket 1% on everything and watch it increase immediately. They found a creative way to increase the fees in a way that looks like its optional. Its not optional.
2. Stagnant Inventory. I have read that sellers have gotten eBay reps to 'reset' their listings. While I believe they may have been told this I don't believe that whatever the rep did had any meaningful effect. I have read that doing a bulk edit and not changing anything gets it going. I don't see that being very effective either. It used to be that if you posted an item you could leave it posted forever and it would eventually sell. I think the new eBay is taking a lot more data points into account like views, watchers, identical solds, and who knows what else. If it doesn't like your listing, it buries it and shows it nobody. I have not been keeping items nearly as long and I have been a lot more aggressive in revising and lowering prices. I revise at least as many items as I post everyday and double most days. Sometimes its a $1 thats the difference in sold and not sold.
3. Offers to buyers. I have sold several items with this new feature. If its not an option on your dashboard you can manually type the link to get to it. Its available to everyone.
4. Offer international shipping outside of GSP. I have had lots of sales this way and printing the label for a first class international (up to 4lbs by the way) is as easy as printing a US one. The only difference is you have to sign it. I have had a couple people do something like pay $150 in shipping to get a $75 item, and that kills me on the fees but that rarely happens and I have yet to loose money on any deal because of it.
5. Returns and cases. I seem to notice a drastic dip in sales directly after I get two returns and/or cases. Just one doesn't seem to have an effect but it seems like if I get two inside of a week, sales suck for several days after. Anyone else notice this? This has led me to a point to where I will not sell anything with a defect. People are looking at the gallery photo and the price and NOTHING ELSE. I will sell new, and fully functional used, and that's it. Sometimes really expensive items still have significant value even if they are only partially working, I will not longer sell that. If I don't feel like the ENTIRE listing can meet the expectation created by just the first photo I don't list it on ebay at all. I guess what I am saying is be more selective with your sourcing.
6. Competition. There are a lot more people selling on ebay. I sure wish I knew how many sellers were on ebay three years ago vs. today. I really have been trying to find items that nobody else is offering or have few comps. I have found myself passing on things not because the margin wasn't there but because there are 3,423 other ones already posted. In the past I would have bought anything that had a sold comp with a good margin, not anymore.
So that was my goal of this post, just to share some ways I am finding a little traction. Hope it helps.
On a side note....
For going on three or four months I noticed a big decrease in return abuse and entitled cheats. I had a period of time with 0 open returns and quite a run with only 1. This weeks I had 2 big fat cheaters. They were all cheap items that had returns anyway, and I got the items back, so not a huge deal. They only stole shipping fees.
One guy asked a silly question about a set of waders I had posted. I referred him to the portion of the listing that answered the question so he couldn't use the semantics of my answer to start a return later. He didn't like that answer so he bought the item with the intent of returning it. Brand New Item. Has UPC. Has same information as all other sellers with same item and same UPC. eBay was kind of enough to remove the defect, but having to call waste my time, kinda aggravating.
I had a somewhat rare bible. It was in pretty rough shape. I wouldn't source or list the same item again. I took good photos of all the damage and described all the damage in detail. If I remember right this bible in good used condition goes for around $40+. This one sold for $20. 30 Day returns, no good reason needed to return it. Shipping was just over $3. Then of course they choose a reason that causes me a defect and say " I love this bibles I would never allow any one do this type of harm to any book let a lone a bible". What a looney toon.
I love how these people can come to ebay and treat it like facebook and at the end of the day it doesn't cost them a dime. They are not shopping for items, they are shopping for a problem to create. eBay does offer us one thing most other platforms don't, the blocked list.
Person 1 had 0 feedback. I think they created a new account to distance what they were about to do from their real account. Person 2 had 1 feedback. Not well established members of the ebay community by any stretch. Returns for users with less than 5 feedback should require a look by an actual person at ebay before they are allowed to apply a defect. Even if it looks like it went through to the user, actual look prior to defect application seems like common sense.
So I know there are some people out there that had a big drop in sales, is there anyone out there that has kept pumping up items and found some success with any new techniques? Get any crazy returns?
Anyone out there sell 20 items instead of 10 and wanna tells us all who say the sales fell off we are crazy because you had a 100% increase? 🙂
05-26-2019 10:26 AM
I do not like the good til cancel. I had more control before. It was easier to see what did not sell month to month.
05-26-2019 10:27 AM
They make it difficult. If you do everything they say you do not make much money. I get best seller ratting but not sure if it is worth it. My sells are the lowest since 2009.
05-26-2019 12:13 PM
@catmond9sik wrote:They make it difficult. If you do everything they say you do not make much money. I get best seller ratting but not sure if it is worth it. My sells are the lowest since 2009.
... my best guess is that ebay broke the search algorithyms (sp?) so they could lower visibility (among other reasons) so they could make more $$$$$ because we now have to use the so call 'Promoted' Listings to get even close to the same visibility .... (#1 eBay rule of thumb ... They don't do anything that doesn't make them immediate funds). So we wind up paying more to them for even lower visibility than we had before...
05-26-2019 12:39 PM
@catmond9sik wrote:They make it difficult. If you do everything they say you do not make much money. I get best seller ratting but not sure if it is worth it. My sells are the lowest since 2009.
My sales have dropped to nothing. I used to ship every day now less than once a week . I have no visibility. When I search for my items they do not show up on any pages unless I type my exact title and then it is iffy. I notice thta I am not buying on eBay either. Yesterday I was searching for decorative rain gutter chains. I was immediately directed to the Mayfair site and that is where I made my purchase. I realize now that this has happened for my last 3 purchases. All purchases made off site after starting on eBay. It seems eBay has become a web search engine rather than a marketplace for listing items to be purchased or sold. I have summers off and was excited to really grow my eBay business this year getting inventory together for teh fall and winter, Now I am selling at flea markets and getting out of this platform. Here since 2003, I never thought I would say this but eBay is a waste of my time.
05-26-2019 12:45 PM
@postingid7659 wrote:
What I am noticing is I can find an old and collectible item, even one that rarely appears on eBay, that has good demand and 100% sellthrough previous to me (presuming I am actually seeing all the past listings in search), and mine does not sell. Over and over it does not sell, even priced lower than past sales. There's not much rhyme or reason for it, either. I had one with nine watchers one week get the bid retracted and this last week not sell at all.
And it has been slow, I had no sales at all between April 19th and May 5th.
I notice too when I do have sales a lot will all be in a particular region, I think eBay's servers only even show the things to people in particular areas each time they run.
I don't sell many collectibles but when I do, I have noticed that these often take a long time to sell. Sometimes they take months to move. Also, I think things like collectibles have a better chance of moving during the holiday season.
05-26-2019 03:14 PM
All the best products, best pricing, best packaging, fast shipping, etc., in the world doesn't help if the search engine is not showing your items to all the buyers all the time, and without them jumping through hoops when they search for them.
This issue is especially a problem for new buyers finding your items. Once found, those great seller attributes will keep them coming back, but they have to find you to begin with, and that ebay clearly manipulates. Even as a buyer I often have to search on Google to find something on ebay with exactly the same search terms, so something is going on. What really isn't clear, is why ebay operates this way.
05-26-2019 04:03 PM
Sellers, for the most part, are buyers as well. That being said, if I , as a seller, am not making any sales/MONEY the last thing I will do is buy anything!
Money in>Money out
NO TICKIE NO WASHIE....
05-28-2019 09:30 PM
See, and that's where the problem lies, collectibles, antiques, rare items, ITEMS THAT COULD RAKE IN $$$$$ but the bosses at eBay don't seem to think so. I have noticed that folks with less than 100 per cent feedback get a bunch of cash. So eBay likes dishonest and **bleep** sellers more than we who take pride in our work for this crumbling joke of a website??? No wonder their stock is $36 and Amazon's $1800 or more. No way to win.
05-29-2019 09:54 AM
@eze-right1 wrote:See, and that's where the problem lies, collectibles, antiques, rare items, ITEMS THAT COULD RAKE IN $$$$$ but the bosses at eBay don't seem to think so. I have noticed that folks with less than 100 per cent feedback get a bunch of cash. So eBay likes dishonest and **bleep** sellers more than we who take pride in our work for this crumbling joke of a website??? No wonder their stock is $36 and Amazon's $1800 or more. No way to win.
Its an interesting conundrum given that, at one time, antiques/vintage/collectibles were eBay's bread & butter.
05-29-2019 11:02 AM
I was saying those reasons are WHY my listings can all be found. Yes, folks, it really does help to qualify for Power Seller status. eBay clearly lists that 'returning your listings as top results' is a perk of the Power Seller status.
I was saying the solid and basic quality business practices actually make it pretty easy to get that Power Seller status.
If I use a computer or mobile device never signed into on my account, I can easily search for all my listings. Often the very first result using only common keywords.
05-29-2019 12:28 PM
i may have to try that logging in thingy from a new device ... i have a tablet that i have never used on ebay, just for showing my grandson kid's movies, and he uses the paint and graphics apps to draw and make a lot of noise, lol .... yeah i know it's an expensive coloring book, lol. is a win10/android 64gb with 1tb flash drive attached to it lol, it has a ton of movies and music for him ... and he's only 20months and can run much of it by himself. now if he'd just quit following ebay's examples and dropping/throwing the ball into everyone elses court!
05-31-2019 01:53 PM
I’ve been selling on eBay since 2013 and every year I grow 10% or more! I know EBAY better then EBAY knows EBAY! I sell about 100 items a month or around $6,000. Since the GTC went into affect, I’m now selling about 50 items or around $2800 and will become homeless soon if things don’t change! Here are the facts on why sales have declined dramatically since the new GTC has started! Ebay states they have 140 million users, that is not true! I would say maybe 10% of that number are regular users and the rest is just fluff. Out of that 10% let’s say half of those users are also sellers. Heres the screw up by eBay, THOSE SELLERS ARE OUR BUYERS!!!! All those small sellers are all of our buyers! If those small sellers can’t sell items then they can’t buy items either! My business fell off the cliff starting on March 20th 2019, the GTC went into affect March 18th. I don’t think it’s a coincidence, it’s a FACT!
05-31-2019 06:41 PM
I have been using GTC listings for 4 years now, and every year my sales have been increasing. I fail to see how you using GTC listings now has 'caused' your business to go down. It's a slow time of year for the market in general; Collectibles or Antiques... even more so.
05-31-2019 10:22 PM
Like I stated, every year my sales have increased. I might have a slow month during the summer time but not during holidays like Mothers day and Father’s Day! And especially when tax returns come back in, that’s my biggest month of the season! I have never seen sales so slow and views down by 70%! If it’s not the new GTC policy, then I’m very curious to know what it is?? EBAY has told me every day that as a whole EBAY is down and that this new policy is hurting many, many sellers!
Just off my account alone between buying and selling, EBAY has lost $1400 in final value fees in 70 days! I pay EBAY about $12,000 a year in value fees. It may seem like chump change but times that by all the complaining sellers and soon enough BOOM!
06-01-2019 01:08 AM
I sell colognes and perfumes and a few other things. Average shipping weight for a 7"X4"X4" box is 12-14oz. My shipping rates just went up for USPS First Class Mail from (top rate) $5.66 to (top rate) $9.70 (same as priority mail rate). At those rates I'll be paying buyers to purchase from me. This is ridiculous. I can't survive making a dollar or less profit per product. It's just not worth the work of listing and bookkeeping. To top it off sales are going to drop with the imposition of sales tax now added to customers purchases. Has eBay considered trying to negotiate a better price with the post office than what is currently being offered? Profit margins are real slim to begin with but at this rate I'll have no choice but to stop selling on eBay.