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Why doesn't eBay require authentication on high-dollar fine jewelry?

Of all categories, it seems like this one would be the most "duh" to require authentication, but as far as I can tell it doesn't.  Am I misunderstanding something?  Would this quarter million dollar sale just prompt a normal shipping label directly to the buyer's address, unlike a few hundred dollar pair of sneakers?  

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@gurlcat 

None of the seller's jewelry displays the "AG". 

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Since it's custom made and not one of the brands covered by AG.

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I couldn't figure out why their Cartier and Tiffany items are excluded though.

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@ittybitnot wrote:

@gurlcat 

None of the seller's jewelry displays the "AG". 


I don't know what you mean.  I just put that listing up for an example.  What I'm asking is, if someone (anyone) has a listing for a piece of jewelry that allegedly has high carats and karats, why doesn't eBay require that to get verified somewhere before reaching the buyer?  I never see that on jewelry listings, yet they do on stupid athletic shoes that aren't even claiming to be real leather or anything.  

I feel like I'm missing a huge chunk of information. 

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I didn't mean for this post to be about that seller in particular, but the reason I had them on my radar in the first place was from someone else's post several days ago.  -They had bought a ring that came with a certificate supplied by the seller, and it turned out the grading company doesn't even exist and the ring was totally fake. And they apparently send these fake certificates with all their stuff because they show them in the listing photos.   So this OP buyer returned the ring and got a refund, but they also left a negative (no banned wording or anything) and it immediately got scrubbed, and somehow that seller has 100% postive. Something REALLY messed up going on there.  

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Okay now I feel extra stupid because it looks like eBay usually DOES (normally) require authentication on precious metals/stones, presumably if the dollar amount exceeds some number.   Here's one by a different seller.

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I guess I just never noticed before because I don't shop for fine jewelry and rarely sell it so I have no need to look at those listings very often.  But now I'm extra weirded out by that seller ^ ..... like how can they sell SUCH expensive pieces including ones allegedly "by" high-end designers, with no authentication requirement, AND getting negatives removed when a buyer cries 'fake'?   Even the certificates they show on their listings are fake!  The company doesn't exist!  

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@gurlcat  Don't feel stupid. I've seen some of those listings and wondered the same thing, myself.

 

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Re: Why doesn't eBay require authentication on high-dollar fine jewelry?

Sneakers
Handbags
Watches
Jewelry
Streetwear
Trading cards

 

Ebay now has six different AG programs and they are all different from each other- each having their own set of exclusions if you dig into the TOS for each program.
There are other differences like the jewelry AG not having a final sale option as some of the other programs do. It's hard to keep up with all the differences.

https://www.ebay.com/authenticity-guarantee/

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Thank you. -Most of the information on that link is geared toward buyers so I looked in the Help section and found more details pertinent to sellers.  -It looks like for jewelry it's basically any piece with certain precious metal and/or stone content, sold for $500 or more, whether as a BIN or auction winning bid.  

And notably, it says such listings will AUTOMATICALLY be enrolled in authentication.  So for the life of me, I cannot understand how that seller ^ in my OP doesn't have it on any of their listings.  I mean they're ALL over $500 (if I recall right) and made of solid gold and gemstones, and MANY are supposedly the brands shown on that ^ link for buyers.  

And look at this.  Just me, or does this Tiffany maker's mark look like a straight-line photoshop, like it doesn't even appear to have curvature. I believe it's too small as well.    And their certificate -google that address.  There's not even a building, just a bend in that road closest to the nearest building.  The OP of that other thread says the phone number is bogus too.  

So how the heck does this seller get away with ALL THIS?  

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I just noticed that at the time of that screen dump, seven people had that $250,000 ring in their cart. 🤤


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@gurlcat wrote:

Of all categories, it seems like this one would be the most "duh" to require authentication, but as far as I can tell it doesn't.  Am I misunderstanding something?  Would this quarter million dollar sale just prompt a normal shipping label directly to the buyer's address, unlike a few hundred dollar pair of sneakers?  

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IMO, ANYBODY whether that ring is custom made or not should use the Authentication. I cannot even fathom the train wreck this seller will experience with a chargeback or nothing sent back in a return case. NEVER SELL something like this online without WHATEVER PROTECTION YOU CAN GET.

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@vintagecraze50 wrote:

@gurlcat wrote:

Of all categories, it seems like this one would be the most "duh" to require authentication, but as far as I can tell it doesn't.  Am I misunderstanding something?  Would this quarter million dollar sale just prompt a normal shipping label directly to the buyer's address, unlike a few hundred dollar pair of sneakers?  

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IMO, ANYBODY whether that ring is custom made or not should use the Authentication. I cannot even fathom the train wreck this seller will experience with a chargeback or nothing sent back in a return case. NEVER SELL something like this online without WHATEVER PROTECTION YOU CAN GET.


ALSO, with their kind of low feedback score I doubt this is some major jeweler selling this stuff on here. I cannot even fathom anyone buying this thing for that much from this seller online.

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How is this for proof? Check out the third photo for their Le Vian diamond earring listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/204692134212?itmmeta=01J0Q1FJMREP91XPXT2Z3TSNFH&hash=item2fa89a1944:g:Gi8AA...

 

Now, compare to the following website: https://m.en.gigiandjoux.com/product/sofia-earrings/61/?cate_no=24&display_group=1

 

It's the exact same item. NOT Le Vian earrings!!!

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Oops, sorry. It's actual the second photo (not third). 

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