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What's with sellers using free USPS envelopes as packing material?

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I received 2 packages today for purchases made on ebay, 1 a priority box and the other, the small flat rate envelop.  BOTH had the items wrapped inside Priority mail large Tyvek envelopes, which were then put into the actual  priority packages they were mailing.

 

No wonder the USPS lost $69 billion over the previous 11 fiscal years.

 

Are people too cheap to go to the 99 cent store and buy a pack of 50 sheets of tissue paper?

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What's with sellers using free USPS envelopes as packing material?


@jacquelinesdesignercloset wrote:

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I received 2 packages today for purchases made on ebay, 1 a priority box and the other, the small flat rate envelop.  BOTH had the items wrapped inside Priority mail large Tyvek envelopes, which were then put into the actual  priority packages they were mailing.

 

No wonder the USPS lost $69 billion over the previous 11 fiscal years.

 

Are people too cheap to go to the 99 cent store and buy a pack of 50 sheets of tissue paper?


The USPS losses have little to do with free packaging and more about mismanagement of funds and poor operational planning & budgeting.  

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What's with sellers using free USPS envelopes as packing material?

Yes

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What's with sellers using free USPS envelopes as packing material?

I'll admit i have been guilty of that ... but i don't think enough to make the postal service go bankrupt.  

The Future - Leonard Cohen
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The USPS losses have little to do with free packaging and more about mismanagement of funds and poor operational planning & budgeting.  


USPS losses have far more to do with a certain political party wishing to privatize the mail and who have placed a ridiculous burden upon the USPS by forcing them to fund future pensions, something no other government agency is required to do.  USPS is, overall, a well run operation that will be sorely missed if the dark side of the force prevails and it is indeed privatized.

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What's with sellers using free USPS envelopes as packing material?

They were old packings from another product this seller purchased.

 

They were found in the garage they inherited when they bought the house.

 

They got a pack of 25 but realized they won't work for their needs. 

 

They got a pack of 25 but only used 10 and realized they don't need them anymore.

 

 

 

 

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USPS allows that if sending priority mail... understand what you saying, they wrapped items in USPS priority mail tyvek envelopes inside a USPS Priority Mail box...but that's not unusual or prohibited use. I myself have witnessed many times USPS workers at counter DO THIS EXACT thing for customers. 

I don't do it, I use USPS Priority Mail boxes for some items but I wrap item in bubble wrap or other packaging supplies like air bags and peanuts I have and secure item in box. I use ebay padded envelopes for side cushioning in vinyl shipments. 

The great truth is there isn't one
And it only gets worse since that conclusion...
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As if extended arms reached to pass his blindness onto others.
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"They were old packings from another product this seller purchased."

 

Definitely not.  Clean (no labels) and unused (sealed with original glue strip)

 

"They got a pack of 25 but realized they won't work for their needs. 

They got a pack of 25 but only used 10 and realized they don't need them anymore."

 

true that happens, but if you leave them with your outgoing packages, mailman will take/pick up.

 

So wasteful.

 

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@inhawaii wrote:

I'll admit i have been guilty of that ... but i don't think enough to make the postal service go bankrupt.  


When I worked for 7-Eleven and there was inventory shortage, the loss prevention people came in to ask everyone questions.

 

I was asked "do you think it's OK to take one 25 cent candy and eat it without paying while working on your shift?"

 

I said "no, because if everyone who came into the store did that, we would have no candy left to sell anyone."

 

So although you didn't make the post office go bankrupt, you contributed a fraction of a percent to the problem USPS has with people taking advantage of free supplies. Chit Chats Express sells me a box of 50 bubble mailers for $5 (plus the $14 to ship it to me because I don't live in their pick up and delivery coverage area). Canada Post won't care if I use them for mailing in Canada, but instead I use my eBay coupons for all three envelope sizes to be able to mail all my non-priority mail packages.

 

Anyway, I'm with the OP on their rant.

 

C.

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@stainlessenginecovers wrote:

They were old packings from another product this seller purchased.

 

They were found in the garage they inherited when they bought the house.

 

They got a pack of 25 but realized they won't work for their needs. 

 

They got a pack of 25 but only used 10 and realized they don't need them anymore.

 

 

 

 


The reason they are used doesn't matter, the supplies are provided for a purpose and I wouldn't be surprised if it was considered an offense to use them for any other purpose.

 

C.

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What's really shocking is the sellers who do this don't care about their own reputation enough to not do it.

I am talking about LARGE-SCALE ebay sellers using multiple brand new Padded Flat Rate envelopes for packing inside a 1st Class or other package.

Not someone who "found them in their garage" - I have encountered sellers with more than 100,000 ebay feedback who repeatedly do this stuff.

I think it's disgusting.

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@itscalledapostingid wrote:

What's really shocking is the sellers who do this don't care about their own reputation enough to not do it.

I am talking about LARGE-SCALE ebay sellers using multiple brand new Padded Flat Rate envelopes for packing inside a 1st Class or other package.

Not someone who "found them in their garage" - I have encountered sellers with more than 100,000 ebay feedback who repeatedly do this stuff.

I think it's disgusting.


I think for large scale sellers to do this is a bit silly, if a much smaller seller like me can afford to budget for bubble wrap, air bags, popcorn, padded envelopes etc... then anyone can, especially large sellers who often have their boxes custom made in large bulk quantity of 5,000+ 

The great truth is there isn't one
And it only gets worse since that conclusion...
...There is something about the rigid posture of a proper, authentic blind
As if extended arms reached to pass his blindness onto others.
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Although in principle I agree;  I wouldn't  recommend using cheap tissue paper as packing material.  Some of the Priority Mail Boxes are made from very thin cardboard.    Especially the longer medium flat rate boxes.  I note that some sellers have wrapped my items in the padded envelopes to prevent damage to the contents.   They have used them for clothing items to prevent soiling during transport.  The past year has seen an increase in damaged  parcels which I attribute to the huge volume increase in package shipping. 

 

However, the use of these postal materials doesn't account for the postal services losses.  The reasons the postal service is losing money is because of the congressional mandate that requires pre-funding of their retirement healthcare funding program that no other government agency is required to observe. They could save 6.5 billion dollars annually, and instead require that Medicare be provided for future USPS retirees, which is precisely what military retirees are required to participate in.”

 

If USPS raised their rates like private for profit companies do they would lose their US consumers who already complain about every increase in postal pricing. Last, but not least, we need to quit subsidizing the United Postal Union discounts to international shippers. The subsidized postal rates for China alone costs the U.S. $300 million a year, with a discount ranging from 40% to 70% on an average shipment.

 

We have a so called  USPS Temporary holiday season rate change beginning in October through December 25th.  In actuality, it's likely to become permanent  come late January 2022.    Moreover, many eBay buyers already complain about shipping prices and they don't realize that sellers are paying eBay fees for shipping charges which tends to negate the commercial discount.

 

People say change your listings to free shipping, but we know shipping isn't free, so then they complain about the price.   Some seller enterprises on eBay are getting volume item and shipping discounts such as the Mega book sellers.   No way small sellers can sell books for $4 with shipping included.   No discounts on Media Mail. but you pay 14.55% in fees.  Your net profit for a $4 book is $0.22.  However, it will actually be less after taxes since eBay levies their Fees on the total with taxes, but deducts their fees on the total minus the taxes.  Therefore, with the addition of state taxes as in California your net becomes $0.17.  That net does not include shipping materials  used  or any other overhead.

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@nuclearomen wrote:

USPS allows that if sending priority mail... understand what you saying, they wrapped items in USPS priority mail tyvek envelopes inside a USPS Priority Mail box...but that's not unusual or prohibited use. I myself have witnessed many times USPS workers at counter DO THIS EXACT thing for customers. 

I don't do it, I use USPS Priority Mail boxes for some items but I wrap item in bubble wrap or other packaging supplies like air bags and peanuts I have and secure item in box. I use ebay padded envelopes for side cushioning in vinyl shipments. 


I don't do it - it doesn't seem right, but I too have seen postal workers at the counter do it. And over the years on the boards, many people have reported postal workers giving them that advice. I've never found anything in their regulations prohibiting it. The one caveat seems to be that USPS apparently doesn't care (they should) if you use additional priority supplies as long as priority postage is paid. But if you use priority mail supplies as packing material for first class, media mail, etc., that's not allowed and if discovered, you'll be charged priority postage.

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@nuclearomen wrote:

USPS allows that if sending priority mail... understand what you saying, they wrapped items in USPS priority mail tyvek envelopes inside a USPS Priority Mail box...but that's not unusual or prohibited use. I myself have witnessed many times USPS workers at counter DO THIS EXACT thing for customers. 

I don't do it, I use USPS Priority Mail boxes for some items but I wrap item in bubble wrap or other packaging supplies like air bags and peanuts I have and secure item in box. I use ebay padded envelopes for side cushioning in vinyl shipments. 


I really doubt that USPS condones doing that even if you see a postal worker doing it does not mean that the product is being used as intended.

 

Those products are all stand alone items, and not intended to be used as inner packaging.

 

 

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