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mr_lincoln · ‎08-31-2019

So I went to send an invoice out of the Sold file and got the message below ... it begs the question, "what foreign country is eBay's programming being done in?"

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earlyant-77 · ‎09-01-2019

somebody that is proficient at coding is too good to ~~waist~~ waste on a silly detail like grammar

No, everyone proficient at coding would not want to embarrass themselves by writing an error message such as that.

he told me that if you need 2000 hours of code that needs to be written its just farmed out overseas for half the money and you get better quality..thats what he does with needed work

I feel bad for him if he thinks it's better quality. I wouldn't let them write a simple if/then loop since it takes 4-5 tries to even get them to understand what you want them to do in the first place. Only after that you MAY get something done that possibly resembles a starting point. I have to deal with too many of them that other companies use - waiting a few weeks to get a few hours work done.

1tuna · ‎09-01-2019

I have no idea how most programmers feel about diction

there have to be some who just dont give a hoot

I mean all programmers dont marry a librarian do they

I would think that most programmers have no use for hanging out at the community forum

seriously...........I just did not realize the strong conection between coding/writing programs and the proper use of english.

I am much better as a proof reader having read almost 40,000 papers

I can just tell when something feels awkward in its cadence

I have way more faith in philly newspapers getting it right

than I do in the forum posters getting it right

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Anonymous · ‎09-01-2019

@mr_lincoln wrote:
it begs the question, "what foreign country is eBay's programming being done in?"

I think a more important question is, "Why is eBay not providing the programmers the copy to use on this site and/or not checking all of the work being done?"

rockusone · ‎09-01-2019

@Anonymous wrote:
@mr_lincoln wrote:
it begs the question, "what foreign country is eBay's programming being done in?"
I think a more important question is, "Why is eBay not providing the programmers the copy to use on this site and/or not checking all of the work being done?"

The answer to that is lack of a good team of Quality Assurance Technicians! That's the department that tests and runs the coding under a multitude of scenarios for any bugs and glitches. before it gives the go-ahead to go live with it.

brettyg599 · ‎09-01-2019

Ebay doesn't have test servers as far as I know. The real server is the test server, and we are all unpaid technicians to report the problems. It is very sad and cost saving.

gracieallen01 · ‎09-01-2019

It seems that there are more pages, in other areas, with the same style of text - 'Hi-i-m-facing-this-issue-from-the-last-24-hours-I-also-attach'.

With all due respect, for a top tech corp., there are things that really shouldn't be happening. Even if due to cost cutbacks or offshore vendors, there should be someone effectively in charge of overseeing the 'routine' functions that the most people see - the buyers.

(personal opinion - your mileage may vary)

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

Respect, like money, is only of 'worth' when it is earned - with all due respect, it can not be ordained, legislated or coerced. Anonymous

chapeau-noir · ‎09-02-2019

@earlyant-77 wrote:
somebody that is proficient at coding is too good to waist waste on a silly detail like grammar

No, everyone proficient at coding would not want to embarrass themselves by writing an error message such as that.

he told me that if you need 2000 hours of code that needs to be written its just farmed out overseas for half the money and you get better quality..thats what he does with needed work

I feel bad for him if he thinks it's better quality. I wouldn't let them write a simple if/then loop since it takes 4-5 tries to even get them to understand what you want them to do in the first place. Only after that you MAY get something done that possibly resembles a starting point. I have to deal with too many of them that other companies use - waiting a few weeks to get a few hours work done.

I had to deal with similar when I was an editor and in quality assurance - these companies would outsource medical dictation to India. It would have to go through FOUR proofreaders before it would be charted. Four, just for correction. There are way too many CEOs who have no idea how to even balance a checkbook, much less calculate costs. By the time some of this stuff would hit my desk (I was chief editor), that 3.5 cents a line that the Indian company charged and which the silly CEO got all excited about, had ballooned to 14 cents a line (30% higher than an American worker). Then there was me, who commanded a lot higher salary who had to run quality audits on the resulting documentation.

A friend of mine who worked in Boeing computing said it would take about 10 of the cheap Indian coders to produce what one US programmer could do. And it wasn't that these Indian coders were bad, not at all - it was simple language barrier. The innovation in India is in developers - coding is just a basic job.

Coding may be 'the new literacy', but no one goes anywhere without the old fashioned ABCs.

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southern*sweet*tea · ‎09-02-2019

@mr_lincoln wrote:

So I went to send an invoice out of the Sold file and got the message below ... it begs the question, "what foreign country is eBay's programming being done in?"

The correct phrasing should be:

Hang on, y'all, we got a problem! Give 'er a try again in a little while.

But seriously, as someone who is a speaker of English and Southernese that syntax is beyond pitiful.

This is what happens when there are no quality checks, proofreading, etc.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.

We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell

earlyant-77 · ‎09-02-2019

@1tuna wrote:
I have no idea how most programmers feel about diction
there have to be some who just dont give a hoot
I mean all programmers dont marry a librarian do they

I would think that most programmers have no use for hanging out at the community forum
seriously...........I just did not realize the strong conection between coding/writing programs and the proper use of english.

I am much better as a proof reader having read almost 40,000 papers
I can just tell when something feels awkward in its cadence
I have way more faith in philly newspapers getting it right
than I do in the forum posters getting it right

It has a lot to do with pride in what you do.

If you do a presentation to a potential customer, and even ONE misspelled word or incorrect phrasing appears, that's what some will take away from it. That's what catches their attention. While that attention is redirected, even for a few minutes, an important piece might be missed by who you are presenting to. If that happens, you may have lost them.

I also use a different approach - most of my error messages are humorous. When someone gets one, they don't usually forget it. They may try to make the same mistake again just to show someone else at times - but they remember not to make the same mistake again because it sticks in their mind.

escuintla · ‎09-02-2019

Thanks God I didn't grab that "soon to be a programmer" job at this high tech Co. years ago.

When you come from speaking Spanish half of your life, English is a deterrent for you to be a reporter.

For example: We say "carro rojo" = "car red". So, imagine the mumbling jumbling we create when we allegedly "speak English".

We also lost the use of the Z long ago. Pronouncing "the, that" is a zoo for us.

The e silent? My God! We pronounce any letter we see. Period!

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