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What else can I do to increase sales?! Help!

I have been selling on eBay for two years, mostly vintage finds. I am up to nearly 800 items in my store. I have 60 day FREE returns, one day handling time, 30 day listings (with automation rule to relist), 10 percent promotion level, and I list at least one item every day, usually more, although once in a great while I will miss a day.

 

I called eBay yesterday morning and they did some sore of reset/refresh on my account supposedly and it did nothing.  I have had the worst few weeks since starting eBay. I am just really disgusted with eBay and I know I am not the only one, but PLEASE does anyone have any secret tips. I know I am grasping at straws, but this is my only source of income and I am trying to support a family of four. My kids are still too young to stay at home alone and I am doing this to avoid childcare costs that would eat my paycheck if I worked outside of the home.

 

I know my inventory isn't exactly high demand, but this is the kind of stuff I have always sold reasonably well. I do not have the funds to improve my inventory, shop clearances, or anything like that, especially after paying all the selling and store fees. I do have maybe a few dozen **bleep** things on there because it was from when I first started and had no idea what I was doing or what sells. But I also have lots of stuff that typically sells within a week or two. But not lately.

 

I hate feeling desperate, and I am painfully familiar with eBay's ebbs and flows, but this is ridiculous. I feel like giving up on eBay, but it is really the only thing that is compatible with my family responsibilities right now.

 

Anyone?! LOL. I will be forever grateful if someone knows a real way to fix this. Although I am sure many sellers have similar problems right now. 

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But I also have lots of stuff that typically sells within a week or two. But not lately.

 

I hate feeling desperate, and I am painfully familiar with eBay's ebbs and flows, but this is ridiculous. I feel like giving up on eBay, but it is really the only thing that is compatible with my family responsibilities right now.


With the holiday buying season soon approaching, hopefully sales will soon pick up.

Wishing you good luck

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There are no tips.  Ebay is a saturated sellers market.  Returns, handling time, etc are meaningless and have little impact upon sales.  Glad I am only trying to make some beer money and not trying to make a living here. 

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Sell on more than one platform. He's right about saturation. 

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It's been a quiet week. Hang in there.  It'll pick up soon.

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Clothing on eBay is saturated try to get selling into two more high selling categories. This will take time but being in three categories should improve sales.

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You and I are suffering from the same disease. I run close to 600 listings on 2 accounts and my sales have dropped 50-60% in the last few months, Lately I have days with Zero sales when I should have 12-15.

Now I'm doing nothing different. I sell vintage stamps and I've seen constant month to month and year to year growth over a long period of time.



I've also set my listings to free returns, 60 day returns, "Free shipping" and I try to have my listings
constantly starting and ending is a revolving pattern as over the years that has seemed to attract more attention.

A year ago I was averaging 2 international sales per day. That's dropped 80% in the last 3 months.

I believe ebay is ill. I believe that our customers have exciting new places to shop and that's where they are spending their money.

Amazon is getting all the attention. They're in the news every day. Meanwhile ebay has quietly stagnated and fallen behind.

I assume there are certain sellers on ebay making money. But vintage collectibles have fallen on hard times. At least for me.

There's no traffic. My views have flat lined. NO views=No watchers=No sales

I'm going to hold on. Personally I have too many years invested to walk away. Amazon looks better every day. But i'm going to wait and see if ebay can't pull a rabbit out of the hat and get this place jump started.
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@bradandamber wrote:

Sell on more than one platform. He's right about saturation. 


I second the "Sell on more than one Platform" move.

I recently began moving items that eBay has been giving me grief about adding to the Product Catalog. I've just been ending the listing, and moving them somewhere else ... no more grief. I'm not gonna spend literally HOURS jumping thru eBay's hoops to pigenhole my items into their ridiculous catalog.

So far I've been fairly successful and have become more optimistic about my desisions.

I'm ̶p̶r̶e̶t̶t̶y̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶e̶ certain the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
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Hi @yesterdays_news_vintage. .  Sorry your sales are so slow.  I know it's of little comfort, but if you  browse through the forums you'll see you're not alone.  Unfortunately you sell two types of items that these days are difficult to shift -- used clothing and vintage items.   One category is over-saturated on eBay especially, and the other just doesn't have as many buyers out there interested in such items.

 

All the aside, I looked at some of your listings and read what you said you have tried.  Here's a few observations and suggestions for you from my perspective which other posters may or may not agree with.  But for what it's worth, here's my two cents...

 

eBay-Specific Listing/Selling Options You're Employing

GOOD:

-- Free returns

-- One-day handling

-- List at least one item every day, usually more

 

BAD:

-- 30 day listings (with automation rule to relist)

-- 10 percent promotion level

-- Free shipping*

 

Why bad?  The 30-day listings with automated re-list are essentially making your listings "Good til Cancelled" (GTC).  When GTC listings renew every month, their "stats" carry forward.  If your listings don't have high engagement numbers (number of views, watches, sales) then they are deemed less desireable to buyers by eBay therefore eBay drops them down lower in search. Roll GTC listings over enough times and your items will be practically invisible as your auto-renewed listings with low engagement stats will cause your listings to continue to sink down lower and lower in eBay search results.  If nobody sees your stuff, then they aren't going to buy it.

 

The "refresh" eBay CS tried to do on your store was an attempt to wipe out the stat history on your listings.  You can do the same thing yourself by manually relisting expired items using "Sell Similar" as opposed to letting them relist automatically.  With 800 listings, I know that's a lot of work, but since you list a few items every day, then most likely your items don't all expire on the same day.  My store is only about 250 items which means I have to deal with an average of 10 items a day to relist.  Yes, it's a pain, but ever since I stopped letting my items renew automatically and manually relisting them using "Sell Similar" my sales (like you, mostly vintage and some clothing) haven't been as slow as they had been when I was using GTC.  IMO, the extra work has been worth it.

 

The 10% promotion level?   This is personal bias, but to be honest, I really don't think it helps vintage sellers a whole heck of a lot, and given the competition in the clothing categories, I don't think it accomplishes much there either except increasing your selling costs and lining eBay's pockets.  At this point, if I were you, I'd concentrate on keeping my costs low and my sell-though rate as high as possible.  IOW, I wouldn't throw good money after bad, by paying for promoted listings.

 

*Though you didn't mention free shipping, I see that on many of your items you are offering it.  Yes, I know eBay encourages sellers to do it,  but I will tell you, when I looked at probably 10 or so of your items my initial reaction was that your prices (not universally, but in many cases) are too high.  My guess is that is because you are offering free shipping and rolling that cost into the cost of the item (which of course, you need to do).  But, the result is many of your items seem excessively high.  More about that, below...

 

I also would be careful about offering free shipping AND free returns -- especially on your clothing items which tend to have higher return rates to start with.  Since your net profit relies on keeping overhead costs as low as possible, I'd be cautious about essentially ensuring you'll have to pay double shipping costs on your clothing listings because you are offering free shipping and free returns.

 

Your Listings

GOOD:

-- Generally the quality of your photos are okay and you have lots of them, though I have a personal aversion to clothes being photographed flat/on the floor and I know I'm not the only one.   If you have a plain light colored wall, trying hanging the items up and photographing them that way.  At least a prospective buyer won't be turned off by the thought of the items having lain on the floor.

-- You seem to be making good use of the Item Specifics fields.  Good, because with eBay's move to a catalog-based system, Item Specifics are becoming as important as the item's headline in terms of search.  If eBay doesn't provide enough or the type of specifics that would describe your item accurately, don't hesitate to add your own.

 

BAD:

-- As noted earlier, I think some of your items, especially the vintage (non-clothing) items, are priced too high.  $25 for a package of 12 little girl's Goody hair barrettes?  Or, $35 for a lot of vintage handkerchiefs?  $14 (when shipping is added) for a Rubbermaid silverware drawer organizer?  All of these items which aren't unique or rare can be picked up for a buck (or less) at a yard sale.  Yes, eBay saves shoppers the trouble of "yard-sale-ing" but I'd really, really have to be motivated to buy some of your vintage items at the prices they are currently at.  To improve your pricing , don't look (only) at what other sellers are asking, look at SOLD listings to figure out what similar things are *selling* for.

 

-- I found a lot of the "boilerplate" copy in your item descriptions to be off-putting.  (Basically, pretty much everything below the tilde ~~~ line).  Telling people that most of your items are sourced from estate sales so they should expect some dirt or grime doesn't sound very appealing.  I know you have about 800 items in your shop, but you mean to tell me you can't take a few minutes before you take photos to clean/wipe things off?   The purpose of your photos and descriptions should be to entice buyers not make them pass your by or say "eew, yuck."  Or, if that's how you want to sell your items, then you definitely need to be selling them (no pun intended) for "dirt cheap."

 

-- Some of your listings have out-dated information talking about you will be on vacation in June/July.  It's now October.  When a prospective buyer reads that it, again it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the professionalism of the seller.  Your goal should be to make the buyer feel confident from buying from you, not make them wonder if you can be trusted.

 

Marketing Strategy

As many other posters have noted, not only has the eBay platform changed in terms of what it takes to sell here, it also attracts a different type of buyer than it used to due in no small part to eBay's own efforts of concentrating more on new, mass-marketed products.

 

The other thing that's changed over the years is the number of online platforms that are out there including for selling used clothing and vintage items.  IOW, there's a lot more competition in terms of places a buyer can go to find such items -- eBay is not the only game in town anymore -- and prospective buyers know that, too.

 

So my other suggestion is to diversify -- not only in the types of items you are selling but also in the selling platforms you use.  IOW,  generally, it's better to not put all your eggs in one basket like you are doing now.  Do some research and see what is selling best where, and for what price, dip your toe in and see what happens.  You might be pleasantly surprised...

 

Hope some of the above will be useful and good luck! 

 

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Wow. That was an insanely thorough response. Very kind of you to take that time and much appreciated!!

 

I have always used GTC on all of my items. However, after reading on these forums and youtube videos, and friends who are very successful sellers, it was suggested to switch to 30-day with automated relist. It was my understanding that with the automation, the listings are given a new item number when they relist after 30 days. Is that not true? About 10 days ago, I ended all of my listings and "relisted" as sell similar with 30 day duration. So technically, all 800 of my listings should have been considered new items. I would suspect that messed things up, but sales were already dragging before I did that.

 

Prices are almost always researched before listing by looking at previously sold items. I completely agree that prices look very high on some items, but I price them at or under what similar items have sold for either through our store or from other sellers. I honestly do not know why people pay such high prices for some of this stuff, but they do. I always thought the same thing: Why not just go down to the thrift store or yard sales and get for much less than on eBay? LOL For example, the barrettes? Those can not  be found anymore. They have the metal backing and have sold previously for that price. Insane, yes. Handkerchiefs always sell well for us. Actually, that price was much lower than they have sold before. Also, like I mentioned, we have some stupid listings on there from like two years ago that I wouldn't even look twice at to pick up and sell these days. We were just throwing everything on and seeing what sticks. lol. I would like to remove all of that kind of stuff, but I feel like when I start ending listings, my sales drop off. I don't know.

 

So while I totally agree with what you are saying with regard to all of that, most of our listings we have sold similar items at similar prices in the past.

 

Photographs? I HATE my photos. I have gone to every corner of my house and tried every setup possible (and my partner's, as she also lists from her home) to try and get good images with decent backgrounds. I wish I had the resources to set up a more "professional" looking studio but I don't. I use clip on lights. I have zero natural lighting in my home. I think there may only be a dozen or so images taken on the floor, on top of a clean tablecloth. Anyway, yes, I hate my photographs but that has never really been a hinderance to sales in the past.

 

The vacation blurb: I have tried multiple times to bulk find and replace (delete) that and it just doesn't work. I have no idea which listings still include that, and I haven't had the time to go through all of my listings to manually remove it one by one.

 

We do not list or sell anything gross or grimy. I spend alot of time cleaning clothing and Tupperware items and other items as much as I can. However, I do not take toothbrushes to any item (I would if it was a very high priced item, but we don't sell that kind of stuff), and the majority of vintage clothing (dresses, coats, wool sweaters, etc.) I can not launder at home. I can't spend a half hour cleaning something, in addition to listing and photographing and shipping, that is going to sell for 15 bucks.  I know some buyers can be extremely picky, so I want to make sure they know that there may be some corner dust or a vintage smell or a stray pet hair sometimes.  Just being proactive and honest to avoid any complaints. I'd say only 5 percent at the MOST of our items may need to be more detail cleaned by the buyer when they receive it.

 

Don't get me wrong, I fundamentally agree with everything you stated and I really appreciate it. 

 

But....our listings and items have always been as they are now, and the drop in sales is obvious and significant and alarming. That said, you have encouraged me to maybe sit down for a couple of days and go through each listing, change titles, change prices, edit descriptions etc. 

 

After that, I have no idea!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oohhh. Yes, the wooden floor. It was an experiment because I had a tiny bit of natural lighting right there and I thought the wood floor looked good underneath, but yes, I agree with you about that!!
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It's been slow sure has but here's a few suggestion's i'm really not the big success story right now myself might be way off,the higher priced items you have maybe 10 then the price drops considerably,maybe sort highest price first in your store to help visibility on those items maybe help average sale price,your not using the "Featured items" (go to mange store then edit store you can add 4 photos of what your most exiting items are,i have noticed my photos are slightly darker i brighten a tad,try to get things from from friends and family that are good that are higher dollar to sell on commission you get half after fees and shipping,(i made some friends with older dealers when i moved here that didn't do eBay and they were trying to give me stuff to sell all the time after i asked them if they were interested, it helped me learn, it helped me get started.i don't do it any more it's a headache but was worth it at the time.only higher dollar items,had them to agree i couldn't help it if i got scammed and they agreed but it didn't happen to their stuff but could have,if you stay away from pawn shop material scammers are fewer and farther between.
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You are actually doing better than most here with what you offer when I look at your solds. Things should pick up hopefully with the 4th quarter.

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Hi, wish there was a magic bullet or secret method to increase sales—if i knew one i’d share it with you in a heartbeat. Just hate to hear when good people are struggling.

 

Looked over your listings to see if there is anyway to help. Two things stood out.

 

Your verbiage about cleanliness needs to go (or at least minimized if you feel it must be there). Right now some of your used clothes listings violate eBay policy because they must be cleaned and stain-free to be eligible for inclusion on the platform. (The Used Clothing policy link is below.) Reading that “it might need cleaning” disclosure in your listing would stop me from buying from you.

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/used-clothing-policy?id=4281

 

The second thing is presentation of your clothing items. You wrote that photographing them on the floor and such didn't seem to hurt your sales in the past. But i guarantee that better photos, better lighting and overall better presentation of your clothes items can directly impact sales. I know money is tight for you right now. At some point you should consider a dress form or other mannequin. It is a necessary tool for clothing sellers and an investment in your business. Until then, you might try photographing your items hanging up. Tissue paper can be used (and reused) to fill out folds, sleeves, etc. 

 

One last thing. It has been a general rule of thumb here for a long time that more listings meant better sales. But i think that is changing.  The trend now is quality over quantity.  It has been strongly suggested that one’s Sell Thru Rate dictates placement in Search with Cassini. Better STR equals higher visibility. And thetefore a greater opportunity for sales. We also know eBay is purging old listings with poor or no sales history. So if i were you, i would go ahead and end your stale and underperforming listings without fear of dropping in Search and/or sales. 

 

Good luck to you moving forward and wishing you many sales in the very near future.

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I had trouble with photo lighting too. I finally bought a professional lighting kit for around $70 for 2 lamps with umbrellas, on tripod stands that telescope. These have made a WORLD of difference in my photos and I use a very old digital camera. But I DO have to edit the photos but I just use the automated edit for that. For vintage clothing I found a cheap full body mannequin. I'm in YOUR boat, no sales lately and this is my only source of income other then Social Security retirement. HOPE that things pick up for everyone on here!!!
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