What are the results of removing non-human bots?

[herbaearth]

Can we get the results of what the effects are after removing bots from views?

Ebay had 180 million customers, which went to 150 million after a review. Research shows non-human bots make up 60% of the internet, which connects 40% of humans from search engines to websites and products. I'm afraid If it's micro-management with targeted traffic, only a 5 dollar stock price will start the conversation.

Is it possible ebay cut the customer base by 60% after removing non-human bots? Can we address results?

[chapeau-noir]

Only some of us sell stuff you can't find on Amazon, etc.  That's the stuff I think people still come here for.

I can see purchasing laptops at a big box or similar, though, though I purchase small electronics here - nano receivers and the like.

[herbaearth]

Micro-management of programmatic inputs would be considered human driven bots, or manipulating AI code with coercion could be a human-bot. Pretty much any algorithm that is micro-managed by humans.

I guess human-bots could also be called corporate clones, but the definition of trans-humanism is on going.

[coolections]

It has nothing to do with you at all. Don't worry about bots or views. They start over each month now. Let others worry about stuff you have no control over.

[tools*]

---

@herbaearth wrote:

I feel much better now reading that the bots are still here roaming the platform for search engine buyers, but are just hidden from view counts. My ebay stock holdings are more secure knowing these details, without thinking contingency orders will execute on an avoidable downturn. 

Thanks for all the comments

---

eBay stock was down 20% before the counter change.

[simply-the-best-for-you]

---

@retro_entertainment_collectibles wrote:

Bots presumably would be using the eBay API services, anything that's performing a page view even if a bot via automation of a browsing control still announce itself as such just as search bots announce themselves.

Views dont tend mean much here as the environment is disorganized, I can't even begin to tell you how many folks I know that now shop here as "last place to try find things" vs the Orange Box and other venues.  Heck my neighbor cross the way was showing off two laptops he bought that cost him nearly $250 more than if he'd bought em' here.   When I asked why he didn't he told me what I've heard from many, the environment is not "fun" to shop at anymore, he bought em' via Big Box store online third party which then he picked up at the box store.

eBay should be making significant alterations to many things but they don't appear to care about ideas.  I'd sent off communications a year ago of how eBay good significantly increase sales and its on deaf ears.

---

Doncha know?   They are very busy.  Changing the fonts of the screens. 

[retro_entertainment_collectibles]

"Only some of us sell stuff you can't find on Amazon, etc.  That's the stuff I think people still come here for."

---

Perhaps so,  Went off to some yard sales this weekend which I've not done in ages and one thing has stood out to me.  When I say to folks putting on the sales, "You ought put this or that on eBay" one name kept coming up time and again, Facebook Marketplace.

Now I sold riding lawnmower, snowblower, stuff like that I'd had no longer needing there.  Sometime back I sent a email off to eBay about this.  IMHO eBay should work towards more localization buyer interface.  So, if I want look at only things in my 'nn' mile circumference I can do so.  Sure through advanced search can somewhat narrow things down but its too low a resolution to be browsing type buyer effective.

I should be hitting the home page and bam, here are some local results for you and with a click you're into browsing a localized region of eBay vendors where one can browse or search them at anytime hopping back to main site. Perhaps even an ability to compare some local result for a widget I am seeking to that of vendors not local vending said widget. 

It's something that Facebook marketplace does just horribly and Amazon not at all so there sits a market for eBay being completely neglected.

[femmefan1946]

EBay LOCAL - with pickup or  delivery.

Good idea.

[grandmakskrafts]

I just find it strange that half my listings now regularly have 0 views in 30 days - yet a few of them have watchers despite the fact that I end all listings at the end of 30 days and never use re-list.   I've never really paid a lot of attention to views until they made this latest change. 

[simply-the-best-for-you]

---

@grandmakskrafts wrote:

I just find it strange that half my listings now regularly have 0 views in 30 days - yet a few of them have watchers despite the fact that I end all listings at the end of 30 days and never use re-list.   I've never really paid a lot of attention to views until they made this latest change. 

---

You can watch an item without viewing it.  I do it all the time.   It's been that way for many years, just more noticeable now. 

[partfinds]

Yep

[partfinds]

And I would prefer that they stop experimenting and leave things the way they worked just fine.

[coolections]

Good news for you Ebay has had a choice for you to search local for years. Just do it !!! No need to reinvent the wheel.

[purplebag4]

I just notice that sales are slow and just about halted.  Not even worth checking the views...Listing is so time consuming and may work for someone who is retired and have the time....items are just sitting at 0 for the entire month.  I am always looking for a better option.  No Sales means I do not buy.  Ebay has become boring....and unproductive.  Harder to sell...Shortly in future I will just delete the items because I can't have these items in my home for years.  They will have to be trashed.  The desire to list an item has long been lost.....The nice pieces I have must be on a platform that produce results.  Constantly raising the prices of one's item after it FINALLY SELL.   and hope the item is still in the home.  If not the order have to be cancelled.....There is no way I can afford to pay E-Bay a monthly subscription fee and make low sales....Takes money from home budget.   I was trying to make money selling on E-Bay....Ebay has become so depressing just to look at your items for years.  Makes homes cluttered......My Opinion and View of Ebay' s micro-management....May not list anymore...just need to discard items to put an end to the long wait on Selling on Ebay.   

[herbaearth]

All I worry about is my stock holdings and making a readjustment to our algorithms before a downturn. I'm afraid a message across the quant network will be based on this market research. All I have control over is what I own, which is why this is topic is so important to understand, because it has something to do with me.

[itscalledapostingid]

They had to make the change to the way views are counted because of the pay per click advertising program. If they hadn't made the change that would probably have became a problem.