02-26-2018 11:27 AM
https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2018/2/1519592274.html
I had a Good time till it lasted.
02-26-2018 11:29 AM
02-26-2018 11:36 AM
According to the article, "as the new experience rolls out, sellers won't be able to list certain items unless they match it to eBay's catalog using the product identifier."
Yeah, I'd be lying if I said this wasn't worrying.
02-26-2018 11:47 AM
02-26-2018 01:35 PM
Well just dont sell brand new items here anymore. Its obvious ebay only cares about the kickbacks it gets from the manufacturers and big box stores that sell brand new items via EBAY not the small time seller.
They want to do anything to hassle someone small time who is selling the same products as a big box store while at the same time charge them for fees.
I am sure the big box stores and people who invented VERO paid EBAY handsomely. The problem is ebay will lose buyers and sellers and be stuck with only retailers who dont buy their own products.
So the answer is only sell junk on EBAY from now on or dont sell here at all. I certainly wont be buying from EBAY if I need brand new anything from now on.
02-26-2018 02:10 PM
@percgrabbe-0wrote:
I am sure the big box stores and people who invented VERO paid EBAY handsomely.
VERO was "invented" by eBay itself, in order to take advantage of the Safe Harbor provision of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) that was enacted by Congress in 1998.
Prior to the DMCA, a website like eBay could theoretically be held liable for the intellectual property violations of its users, because it was argued by some lawyers that the website was the entity who was technically "publishing" the allegedly infringing content on the internet.
The DMCA gave websites a blanket immunity from liability for the actions of its users, as long as the website agreed to remove any content that was reported to it by a Notice of Claimed Infringement (NOCI).
As long as eBay complies with a NOCI, the website cannot be held liable for intellectual property violation by website users - for example, sellers listing infringing items on eBay.
No one paid eBay to create VERO - eBay created VERO on its own in order to protect itself from legal liability.
02-26-2018 02:14 PM
02-26-2018 02:15 PM
@luckythewinnerwrote:
@namtrag1wrote:I had a Good time till it lasted.
Thankfully I sell used and collectible items that do not have product identifiers, so I am not doomed.
We all hope, anyway.
Somehow I can see a product page containing everything marked 'Does Not Apply'
02-26-2018 02:20 PM
@luckythewinnerwrote:
@namtrag1wrote:I had a Good time till it lasted.
Thankfully I sell used and collectible items that do not have product identifiers, so I am not doomed.
Why do you think that? As d-k said, are you going to list in the 23,000,000-item category of "used" ?
02-26-2018 02:29 PM - edited 02-26-2018 02:30 PM
Why do you think that? As d-k said, are you going to list in the 23,000,000-item category of "used" ?
Because I do not believe that will happen.
I've been on this board long enough to know which predictions are likely to happen, and which ones are just posted to get a rise out of people.
02-26-2018 02:33 PM
@luckythewinnerwrote:
@percgrabbe-0wrote:
I am sure the big box stores and people who invented VERO paid EBAY handsomely.
No one paid eBay to create VERO - eBay created VERO on its own in order to protect itself from legal liability.
Ebay violates our consumer protection rights to protect itself from liability.
...Basicly a company tells ebay to remove (with a statement signed under penalty of perjury...lol), ebay folds like a wet blanket, no due process, guilty as charged, and the firing squad if you relist it.
Yea, Vero is a great program......
02-26-2018 02:38 PM
@sharingtheland wrote:
@luckythewinnerwrote:
@namtrag1wrote:I had a Good time till it lasted.
Thankfully I sell used and collectible items that do not have product identifiers, so I am not doomed.
Why do you think that? As d-k said, are you going to list in the 23,000,000-item category of "used" ?
There is another thread rolling along about no longer selling "used" auto parts because the CEO thinks only "old men" repair their vehicles.
Why would they not extend that to the elimination of all "used" items on eBay?
Perhaps there will be an added individual category for "refurbished". Then we will be buried under all the refurbished diapers, and condoms presently listed.
02-26-2018 02:42 PM
What does it matter as long as "used" isn't the only searched keyword.
Catetgory means nothing at all to me. I haven't browsed a category since about 1999
02-26-2018 05:34 PM
@magicjohnsonsvarietywrote:
...Basicly a company tells ebay to remove (with a statement signed under penalty of perjury...lol), ebay folds like a wet blanket, no due process, guilty as charged, and the firing squad if you relist it.
eBay's management would be absolute fools not to take advantage of the safe harbor provision of the DMCA.
Facebook, Etsy, Amazon, LetitGo, Target, Hostgator, Bonanza, eCrater, Ruby Lane, Twitter, WalMart and Instagram all accept and act upon notices of claimed infringement under the DMCA in the same way that eBay does.
02-26-2018 06:12 PM - edited 02-26-2018 06:13 PM
@luckythewinnerwrote:
@magicjohnsonsvarietywrote:
...Basicly a company tells ebay to remove (with a statement signed under penalty of perjury...lol), ebay folds like a wet blanket, no due process, guilty as charged, and the firing squad if you relist it.eBay's management would be absolute fools not to take advantage of the safe harbor provision of the DMCA.
Facebook, Etsy, Amazon, LetitGo, Target, Hostgator, Bonanza, eCrater, Ruby Lane, Twitter, WalMart and Instagram all accept and act upon notices of claimed infringement under the DMCA in the same way that eBay does.
I know that...I was just adding in some facts that you left out.
Ebay is only doing what they are told to do. The real problem is with the law and the way companies are allowed to lie and outright abuse the law.