Using a question mark after a maker.

[jkc190e]

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker. I was harassed by a buyer telling me my listings were wrong and implied I was trying to deceive buyer's. She even threatened to involve eBay after I was " corrected " by her. She clearly didn't read my descriptions. And I asked her...Well, how do I know that you know they are not as described? Crickets!...Is there a way to block someone from seeing my listings and to stop messaging me? I don't feel this is an eBay matter to pursue. I just want this arrogant woman to go away!...Thought?...Thanks!

[kh-leslie]

Hello everyone,

This thread is getting a bit heated.  Please remember that it’s fine to disagree with others, but discussion should always remain courteous and respectful.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[sidemouse]

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@llllady wrote:

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@luckythewinner wrote:

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@jkc190e wrote:

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker

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Add me to the chorus. You are 100% wrong and the buyer is 100% correct.

Kudos to the buyer for caring enough to try to weed out the clear policy violations on the site.

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@luckythewinner

You say that like eBay really cares. Don't believe it, look at this.  Been going on and hundreds of listings from same seller have been reported since April.  Nothing has been done.  So if you think eBay cares about policy violations, whether it is keyword spamming or it's search and browse manipulation policy, think again. 

Just because they continue to sell does not mean they have no policy violations, some of these sellers could be on the verge of losing their selling privileges, you have the ability to chose not to be that seller.

[sidemouse]

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@rixstuff wrote:

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@tunicaslot wrote:

I don't like to see that heart - but how is that drawing buyers to their listings? I'm not tech savvy but I don't start my searches with a heart.

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It isnt anymore than CUTE! L@@K! SEXY! RARE! AWESOME! DESIGNER or anyother embellishments in titles or descriptions get folks in.  (You will also find those listings usually lack actual details that would help the search engine find it or make buyers decide to buy it).

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Those silly monikers in the title are a sign of a seller who doesn't know what they are doing, generally speaking I will not buy from them.  Ebay even has a specific article that encourages sellers not to use these words as they do nothing to enhance the buying experience.

[moondogblues]

I also do not L@@K at listings that say that...ewwww.

I collect very specific types of things...Rookwood, Waterford, Baccarat, Hobe, and such and it irks me no end to see the -esque/-like/might be/etc in the title or in the description. It is rampant in vintage jewelry. Hate it.

What I do appreciate is a description that is truthful yet gets me interested, "Could be a book piece it's so gorgeous, but alas, it's unsigned." That will get me looking at every single photo.

OP, I am sorry you feel that you have been whaled on, and you are trying to learn. Kudos for coming here and then correcting your listings. Hang in there, we all make boo-boos.

[llllady]

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@sidemouse wrote:

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@llllady wrote:

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@luckythewinner wrote:

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@jkc190e wrote:

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker

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Add me to the chorus. You are 100% wrong and the buyer is 100% correct.

Kudos to the buyer for caring enough to try to weed out the clear policy violations on the site.

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@luckythewinner

You say that like eBay really cares. Don't believe it, look at this.  Been going on and hundreds of listings from same seller have been reported since April.  Nothing has been done.  So if you think eBay cares about policy violations, whether it is keyword spamming or it's search and browse manipulation policy, think again. 

Just because they continue to sell does not mean they have no policy violations, some of these sellers could be on the verge of losing their selling privileges, you have the ability to chose not to be that seller.

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Any seller with HUNDREDS of repeated and reported violations, like the one in question, would not still be selling here if eBay was enforcing its policy. 

When eBay chooses to ignore and enforce its policies, it sends a message to sellers that they are free to ignore those policies, as well. 

[rolenboy01]

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@llllady wrote:

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@sidemouse wrote:

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@llllady wrote:

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@luckythewinner wrote:

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@jkc190e wrote:

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker

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Add me to the chorus. You are 100% wrong and the buyer is 100% correct.

Kudos to the buyer for caring enough to try to weed out the clear policy violations on the site.

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@luckythewinner

You say that like eBay really cares. Don't believe it, look at this.  Been going on and hundreds of listings from same seller have been reported since April.  Nothing has been done.  So if you think eBay cares about policy violations, whether it is keyword spamming or it's search and browse manipulation policy, think again. 

Just because they continue to sell does not mean they have no policy violations, some of these sellers could be on the verge of losing their selling privileges, you have the ability to chose not to be that seller.

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Any seller with HUNDREDS of repeated and reported violations, like the one in question, would not still be selling here if eBay was enforcing its policy. 

When eBay chooses to ignore and enforce its policies, it sends a message to sellers that they are free to ignore those policies, as well. 

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True we've all got to remember there are those who are untouchable and they aren't always the coveted chinese sellers that's the scary part, they are people like us who sell similar things to a lot of us.

[retrose1]

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@sg51 wrote:

@sg51 wrote:

What you can do is claim "The extrardinary quality suggests this was produced by the famous brand, although I can't find any branding".

"Calling out similarities" is also explicitly prohibited. Maybe you should read the policy before setting the OP up for a policy violation and a probable SNAD. If you don't KNOW it's "Brand X", don't mention "Brand X" in ANY context.

Polarity reversal.

This seems to be a reply to something which is the opposite what I posted.

In particular, I suggested avoiding naming a brand.

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But the way you phrased it is straight out of weasel 101.  Just as bad as the can't tell it from the expensive designer brands whose names we are not allowed to mention, buzzphrase that infomercials spew.  The seller should be selling the item and not what the item could be or looks like, the item itself.

If the buyer buys thinking that it is a brand name that managed to sneak by without getting stamped and when they see it and find out it isn't, they are not going to be happy.

Of course I advocate learning about the antiques you are spending money on.  More than once I would get some mall shopper bringing in some item that they spent good money on ebay because the listing said that it was a 20's flapper dress or 40s suit and it was so obvious that it was less than 10 years old but they didn't know any better and believed the listing.

That is one of the reasons ebay has the abusive policies for sellers in place, most sellers are more interested in getting an item sold anyway they can rather than getting it sold right.  One of the reasons I do so well with my vintage on another site - the buyers know I know my stuff and am not fudging time periods and am not saying or hinting that an item is the more expensive version.  And they have seen it too often out of ebay sellers to trust the entire site anymore.

[retrose1]

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@rolenboy01 wrote:

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@sg51 wrote:

What you can do is claim "The extrardinary quality suggests this was produced by the famous brand, although I can't find any branding".

As others have pointed out, there are two powerful reasons not to mention a brand name unless your product is branded by that company.

1. It's against policy.

2. It's a natural born SNAD.  All buyer has to do is claim it's not the advertised brand, and you lose.  Some buyers take advantage of this. Your correspondent was no cheater.

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So it would be correct to surmise a "buyer" who takes advantage of such a thing is a scammer right?

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I'd call it karma.

[sg51]

If the buyer buys thinking that it is a brand name that managed to sneak by without getting stamped and when they see it and find out it isn't, they are not going to be happy.

Indeed they would be unhappy if the quality did not live up to the description.

I was not suggesting a false claim of quality.  The context here is when there is a very legitimate positive comparison between an unbranded item and a high priced brand.

[mistwomandancing]

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sg51 wrote:..........I was not suggesting a false claim of quality.  The context here is when there is a very legitimate positive comparison between an unbranded item and a high priced brand.

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But.. just address the 'very legitimate positive' QUALITY of the item being offered, with no reference to a brand that it ISN'T.  It's fair to describe the item's rich color, it's extremely fine finish, it's highly crafted details, it's very high level of craftsmanship, etc. with PHOTOS to show off the beauty of the piece... which will help this lovely item speak for itself. 

[rolenboy01]

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@retrose1 wrote:

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@rolenboy01 wrote:

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@sg51 wrote:

What you can do is claim "The extrardinary quality suggests this was produced by the famous brand, although I can't find any branding".

As others have pointed out, there are two powerful reasons not to mention a brand name unless your product is branded by that company.

1. It's against policy.

2. It's a natural born SNAD.  All buyer has to do is claim it's not the advertised brand, and you lose.  Some buyers take advantage of this. Your correspondent was no cheater.

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So it would be correct to surmise a "buyer" who takes advantage of such a thing is a scammer right?

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I'd call it karma.

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A simple mistake in a listing is justification for a scammer to take advantage in your view?

[trustedbasset]

Yea but sometimes those sellers dont know what they have and if you're a reseller those are the words to search for.
I quit reporting on sellers unless its really bad. Ebay usually ignores my reports.

[Anonymous]

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@fern*wood wrote:

I'm curious about your thinking by adding the following statement to your descriptions:

"P.S...I was informed they are not Rosemeade."

but still leaving Rosemeade as the first word in your titles? 

@jkc190e

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Ummmmmm what that says to me is... I'm keyword spamming, I KNOW I am keyword spamming, but I'm not changing it because it benefits me to keyword spam.

[margarenisa_0]

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@Anonymous wrote:

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@fern*wood wrote:

I'm curious about your thinking by adding the following statement to your descriptions:

"P.S...I was informed they are not Rosemeade."

but still leaving Rosemeade as the first word in your titles? 

@jkc190e

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Ummmmmm what that says to me is... I'm keyword spamming, I KNOW I am keyword spamming, but I'm not changing it because it benefits me to keyword spam.

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This is getting ridiculous.

OP you've been told throughout this thread that what you are doing is key word spamming which is against eBay listing rules.

No matter what your intent or your "innocence" of knowing the rules- you're scamming buyers.

Liar liar pants on fire.