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Using a question mark after a maker.

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker. I was harassed by a buyer telling me my listings were wrong and implied I was trying to deceive buyer's. She even threatened to involve eBay after I was " corrected " by her. She clearly didn't read my descriptions. And I asked her...Well, how do I know that you know they are not as described? Crickets!...Is there a way to block someone from seeing my listings and to stop messaging me? I don't feel this is an eBay matter to pursue. I just want this arrogant woman to go away!...Thought?...Thanks!

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I'm curious about your thinking by adding the following statement to your descriptions:

 

"P.S...I was informed they are not Rosemeade."
 
but still leaving Rosemeade as the first word in your titles? 
 
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@jkc190e wrote:

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker. I was harassed by a buyer telling me my listings were wrong and implied I was trying to deceive buyer's. She even threatened to involve eBay after I was " corrected " by her. She clearly didn't read my descriptions. And I asked her...Well, how do I know that you know they are not as described? Crickets!...Is there a way to block someone from seeing my listings and to stop messaging me? I don't feel this is an eBay matter to pursue. I just want this arrogant woman to go away!...Thought?...Thanks!


If you are not sure, then do not list that maker.  It could be considered keyword spamming.

 

You can block her from buying from you but not seeing your listings.  As far as messages from her, just delete them. She will eventually get the hint she is talking to herself.

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@luckythewinner wrote:

@jkc190e wrote:

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker


Add me to the chorus. You are 100% wrong and the buyer is 100% correct.

 

Kudos to the buyer for caring enough to try to weed out the clear policy violations on the site.


@luckythewinner

 

You say that like eBay really cares. Don't believe it, look at this.  Been going on and hundreds of listings from same seller have been reported since April.  Nothing has been done.  So if you think eBay cares about policy violations, whether it is keyword spamming or it's search and browse manipulation policy, think again. 

 

hearts-in-tittles-still-170810.jpg

 

 

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/search-manipulation.html

 

It's against our policies to do anything that manipulates the search or browse experience. This applies to all parts of a listing (see our HTML and JavaScript policy for more information). For example, the use of superscript, subscript, or other special characters (e.g., ™, ♥, ½) in the title, subtitle, item specifics, or other fields is not allowed. If a seller uses tactics that can inappropriately direct bidders and buyers to a listing, we'll take action.

“It took me quite a long time to develop a voice, and now that I have it, I am not going to be silent” ― Madeleine K. Albright

Great! 45.8% down over the same time last year with 2x+ items listed. Are you impressed? I'm certainly not!
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yes i kinda figured you can't, but 1) didn't feel ilke looking it up to prove the point and 2) my point wasn't to prove her wrong, but just kind point out that is wasn't really good--and buyer did have a point...

 

ebay can bot her listings and find ? all they want... 

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@thatsallfolks wrote:

@pingpong517 wrote:

 

but again, I'm not saying you can't do a ? and/or it is wrong...just selling here---I know that it isn't the "best" way of a description....


The eBay policy prohibiting the use of "Maker(?)" has already been posted.

 

So clearly it's wrong, and you can't do it.


and ebay has many many many policies that they should be looking after , so it is not my way to tell anyone what they can or can't do...they are grown up and do as they wish...but if they get a warning, so be it too...and if someone  whats to point a policy out..so be that too.... I don't get too concerned about the small stuff...and by suggesting she was 'wrong" she can look it up, call ebay, find out that other listing may get snaged too...and so be it.

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I don't like to see that heart - but how is that drawing buyers to their listings? I'm not tech savvy but I don't start my searches with a heart.

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@tunicaslot wrote:

I don't like to see that heart - but how is that drawing buyers to their listings? I'm not tech savvy but I don't start my searches with a heart.


funny i wondered that too....  and if a heart works ...i got a few ideas rolling around in my head..lol

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@jkc190e wrote:

 

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker.

 


The term you are looking for is "unmarked" --- which, of course, means a knock-off, copy, forgery, or "in the style of" the real thing

 

Manufacturers almost never sell product without a makers mark --- unless it is under contract to another company --- but in those cases there will be the name of the other company (i.e. Kenmore)

 

A suggestion: if you believe they are Rosemeade then say so --- nothing wrong with an incorrect identification --- especially when they were with other "Rosemeade" pieces ...



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What you can do is claim "The extrardinary quality suggests this was produced by the famous brand, although I can't find any branding".

 

As others have pointed out, there are two powerful reasons not to mention a brand name unless your product is branded by that company.

 

1. It's against policy.

2. It's a natural born SNAD.  All buyer has to do is claim it's not the advertised brand, and you lose.  Some buyers take advantage of this. Your correspondent was no cheater.

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@sg51 wrote:

What you can do is claim "The extrardinary quality suggests this was produced by the famous brand, although I can't find any branding".


"Calling out similarities" is also explicitly prohibited. Maybe you should read the policy before setting the OP up for a policy violation and a probable SNAD. If you don't KNOW it's "Brand X", don't mention "Brand X" in ANY context.

 

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/search-manipulation.html#keyword

 

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I'd like to know how that seller manages to get that heart in the title in the first place. When I tried it (as an experiment) eBay flatly refused to let me list it with such a character in the title.

 

And it IS search & browse manipulation




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I even stated in my listing that It was not made by the maker....And yes, I will ignore her.
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I even stated in my listing that it was not made by that maker
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@jkc190e wrote:
I even stated in my listing that It was not made by the maker....And yes, I will ignore her.

You are free to ignore the buyer, but they were correct.  Have you revised the titles yet?  That is against ebay policies.

@jkc190e

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jkc190e wrote:

Hello!...I don't think there is anything wrong with putting a question mark after a makers name if you're not sure if it is or isn't by said maker.

 


You might just be the kind of buyer some sellers are looking for when they put up listings like:

 

Ring with Sparkly Green Stone, Emerald?

Cut Glass Goblets, Waterford?

Silver Earrings, Sterling?

Colored Glass Bowl, Murano?

 

In other words, if you don't KNOW the maker or detail of your item, DON'T be putting maker's names, brand names, your *guesses* as to possible purity, rarity, or material, etc.

 

Sooner or later, you're going to get some buyer really ticked off -or- you're going to get yourself into real trouble here.  Selling online to complete strangers, buying online from complete strangers does entail a certain amount of danger from scammers to begin with, and on eBay it is hoped that we can work to keep that to a minimum, if remotely possible. 

 

Everybody wants to make sales.  That is completely understandable.  But don't try to paint pretty pictures of something just to make it sound better unless you KNOW it is... what you are indicating it "might" be.

 

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